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RE: Full toilet training - 4/18/2009 11:28:54 AM   
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I know this isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it would seems to be a fitting humiliation to a slave and a service I would love to learn how to provide.  Any reason more are not into this?


Do you see the contradiction in your post?

It is not a humiliation if you want to be doing it, it is simply something that turns you on and you want to manipulate someone into doing it for your pleasure.


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RE: Full toilet training - 4/18/2009 1:47:26 PM   
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camille65 said:

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ORIGINAL: pervey69
I know this isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it would seems to be a fitting humiliation to a slave and a service I would love to learn how to provide.  Any reason more are not into this?

Do you see the contradiction in your post?

It is not a humiliation if you want to be doing it, it is simply something that turns you on and you want to manipulate someone into doing it for your pleasure.

Why is it always equated that, if my submissive likes what I'm doing to him but at the same time says it's humiliating that it turns him on, that I'M being manipulated? Why, pray tell, must a submissive hate what's being done to them (or what they're doing) for it to 'count'?

I assure you, there are times where his head is saying no no no this is dirtybadwrong and he's struggled mentally to submit to it, but his cock is hard and he desperately wants to come. This doesn't mean it's not humiliating to him that he feels that. He isn't manipulating me for his kink (because it is not something he came around asking for, not like this... not like those who go into it saying that their kink is to have their small dick talked about or whatever... nothing WRONG with that, but that's entirely different...) But what's the deal with 'if we both like it then it can't possibly be X'?

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RE: Full toilet training - 4/19/2009 8:22:52 AM   
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While I have never engaged in this activity myself, I know for a fact that there are people who do, and they are not all dead.  There are several pro dommes who specialize in this type of service, and they have loyal, repeat customers.  I am not saying that it is without risk, but to say that it is sure death is not accurate.
Sorry Kal,but the obvious question that comes to mind after reading your post is....just how many of them are dead.Are the dead perhaps more loyal than the living cutomers...inquiring minds need to know.



I don't know how many if any are dead from this.  But I do know that there are plenty who are just fine.  I am not encouraging or condoning anything.  But the fact is, there are people do this thing, and a lot of them are just fine.  There are a lot of activities, sexual and otherwise that carry risks.  Some people suffer adverse effects, some do not. 

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RE: Full toilet training - 4/19/2009 8:30:24 AM   
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RE: Full toilet training - 4/19/2009 8:39:36 AM   
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RE: Full toilet training - 4/19/2009 9:01:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: camille65

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ORIGINAL: pervey69
I know this isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it would seems to be a fitting humiliation to a slave and a service I would love to learn how to provide.  Any reason more are not into this?


Do you see the contradiction in your post?

It is not a humiliation if you want to be doing it, it is simply something that turns you on and you want to manipulate someone into doing it for your pleasure.



I suspect that pervey69 is quite able to see the contradiction.  It's a turn-on because it's a humiliation - albeit of a specific sort. 

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RE: Full toilet training - 4/19/2009 9:59:08 AM   
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Peon, there is nothing worse that getting up in the middle of the night and sitting on a toilet and slipping into the water.






Eh?  You must have either a huge toilet bowl or a tiny bum!

I can think of one thing worse than that, though: putting your hand on a wee soaked toilet seat that was wazzed on by a man who'd gone in before you and didn't realise the seat was down.


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RE: Full toilet training - 4/19/2009 10:03:44 AM   
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RE: Full toilet training - 4/19/2009 10:07:42 AM   
PeonForHer


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RE: Full toilet training - 4/19/2009 10:16:39 AM   
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and Peon? woe betide anyone who would pee on the seat!


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RE: Full toilet training - 4/19/2009 7:33:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slavekal

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: slavekal

While I have never engaged in this activity myself, I know for a fact that there are people who do, and they are not all dead.  There are several pro dommes who specialize in this type of service, and they have loyal, repeat customers.  I am not saying that it is without risk, but to say that it is sure death is not accurate.
Sorry Kal,but the obvious question that comes to mind after reading your post is....just how many of them are dead.Are the dead perhaps more loyal than the living cutomers...inquiring minds need to know.



I don't know how many if any are dead from this.  But I do know that there are plenty who are just fine.  I am not encouraging or condoning anything.  But the fact is, there are people do this thing, and a lot of them are just fine.  There are a lot of activities, sexual and otherwise that carry risks.  Some people suffer adverse effects, some do not. 
Come on Kal,work with me here....you wrote"I know for a fact their are people who do,and they are not all dead".....do you see it now Kal,do you see the joke I was going for here....if they are not all dead...by insinuation ...some of them are dead.And yet they still seem to be doing this?
Awww  dammit to hell,if you must explain a witticism,perhaps it wasn't to witty.

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RE: Full toilet training - 4/20/2009 2:59:40 AM   
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Why is it always equated that, if my submissive likes what I'm doing to him but at the same time says it's humiliating that it turns him on, that I'M being manipulated? Why, pray tell, must a submissive hate what's being done to them (or what they're doing) for it to 'count'?




Thank you Kita. Thank you for saying what has been on my mind when I've come across this often. Why is this the prevailing view/attitude? Why I am suppose to 'hate' something I want to try for it to be that I'm officially submitting? I honestly don't understand this. I might try something and not like. I might try something because I'm with a domme that wants me to try it. If I don't truly like it or even hate it, how is this the only kind of I don't know approved submission? Guess what? If we - the subbies - really hated it, I don't think we'd be wanting to play anymore, don't you think?

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RE: Full toilet training - 4/20/2009 3:35:57 AM   
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RE: Full toilet training - 4/20/2009 1:14:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think that sometimes it's because the top truly does want to push the bottom somewhere that the top thinks / feels / etc the bottom would actually benefit from . . . . .

& sometimes it's cuz the top feels insecure in their 'domliness' & only feels validated by asking for & receiving the implausible / impossible from the bottom . ... . .

My not so humble & etc . .. . Your data points may vary . . ...

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RE: Full toilet training - 4/20/2009 5:59:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I apologize, slvemike4u.  I thought you were being serious.  I should not be so thick.

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