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GhostWhoWalks -> Control without Love? (4/17/2009 2:44:09 PM)

 I've seen some profiles by slaves, looking for a strict and controlling Master and specifically not anything soft or romantic. I've also seen a few that at least implied they weren't looking for any affection whatsoever.
What is the attraction to a slave, of being controlled by a harsh, strict Master who doesn't care about them?
I'm specifically looking for feedback from those who desire/ have such an arrangement. Not looking for comments from subs/slaves who like to post stuff like, "I don't know why they want that, but here's what I think..." [:@]




IrishMist -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 4:13:24 PM)

Well, I don't know why they want that , but here's what I think..................

[8|]




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 4:24:40 PM)

I am a Master who doesn't feel that romance is essential to Ms. Obedience is...and it can be as black and white as that. Perhaps this is what they're looking for.

Master Fire




marie2 -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 4:35:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GhostWhoWalks

I've seen some profiles by slaves, looking for a strict and controlling Master and specifically not anything soft or romantic. I've also seen a few that at least implied they weren't looking for any affection whatsoever.
What is the attraction to a slave, of being controlled by a harsh, strict Master who doesn't care about them?


Why the assumption that the slave doesnt want a master who cares? 

You can have a caring relationship without romantic love. 




sirsholly -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 4:42:38 PM)

here's what i think....some might feel that wine and roses lessens his dominance in their eyes.




RCdc -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 4:53:55 PM)

Care does not equal love.
Love does not equal care.
 
the.dark.




RavenMuse -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 4:59:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Care does not equal love.
Love does not equal care.



Absolutely. My relationship with My girl has nothing to do with romantic 'love' twaddle. I care for and about My property and am drawn to control her, she cares about Me and is drawn to please and serve Me. What more is needed?




littlewonder -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 5:11:56 PM)

For some they feel that love lessens and taints their submission and a Dom's dominance. I'm not one of those people. It grows deeper for me with love.

It's kinda like people who only want casual relationships or constantly seek out people who will hurt them or someone they can distance themselves from. There's usually something in their past that has caused them to push away any affection from others. I've seen it time and again. I used to be one of those.

Thankfully I had an epiphany and woke up one day and realized that ya know..that kind of life just sucks all around.




GhostWhoWalks -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 5:52:19 PM)

  Nice to hear from you again, Master Fire. [:)]
We spoke for awhile at what used to be the Slave Register. My nic there is IntentionalCruelty.
  I agree, romance isn't essential.
  But, it sure is fun when it happens. [:D]


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

I am a Master who doesn't feel that romance is essential to Ms. Obedience is...and it can be as black and white as that. Perhaps this is what they're looking for.

Master Fire





GhostWhoWalks -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 5:55:20 PM)

you should be tied and gagged, then put in a closet for a couple of hours. Above all, you should be denied pain.


quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

Well, I don't know why they want that , but here's what I think..................

[8|]




GhostWhoWalks -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 5:59:23 PM)

 What more is needed?
Um...
  How about, a reliable wireless network, and decent parking space?


quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Care does not equal love.
Love does not equal care.



Absolutely. My relationship with My girl has nothing to do with romantic 'love' twaddle. I care for and about My property and am drawn to control her, she cares about Me and is drawn to please and serve Me. What more is needed?





GhostWhoWalks -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 6:02:04 PM)

Thank you. [:)]
This is something I can understand.
Thanks for sharing.


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

For some they feel that love lessens and taints their submission and a Dom's dominance. I'm not one of those people. It grows deeper for me with love.

It's kinda like people who only want casual relationships or constantly seek out people who will hurt them or someone they can distance themselves from. There's usually something in their past that has caused them to push away any affection from others. I've seen it time and again. I used to be one of those.

Thankfully I had an epiphany and woke up one day and realized that ya know..that kind of life just sucks all around.





IrishMist -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 6:04:14 PM)

quote:

Above all, you should be denied pain.

Well fiddlefuck

[8D]




RavenMuse -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 6:04:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GhostWhoWalks

How about, a reliable wireless network, and decent parking space?



I don't play stupid online games, real life only... and I live in London, one of the best transport infrastructures in the world (Till midnight when it turns into a feckin pumpkin!!!!) I don't need a car.

I thought you where trying to deny irish pain?.... what passes for your humour is definatly painful [;)]




IrishMist -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 6:05:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

quote:

ORIGINAL: GhostWhoWalks

How about, a reliable wireless network, and decent parking space?



I don't play stupid online games, real life only... and I live in London, one of the best transport infrastructures in the world (Till midnight when it turns into a feckin pumpkin!!!!) I don't need a car.

I thought you where trying to deny irish pain?.... what passes for your humour is definatly painful [;)]


LMAO
Master Raven...you have been missed. WB [:D]




RavenMuse -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 6:08:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist
Master Raven...you have been missed. WB [:D]


Thanks sweetie, I checkout from time to time but I never leave [:D]




DrkIntensity -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 6:15:22 PM)

From a personal standing; I need to be 'in love' with the person whom I cede control to. I will admit though, that I am not sure how well it would work if he did not love me in return. I think that I would not be very happy or fulfilled in a relationship of that kind.
 
I do know others though, who do not place love on their list of must have's/needs/wants.
 
So, I would guess that it just depends on those involved within the relationship.
 
lise




GhostWhoWalks -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 6:15:55 PM)

  They say great humor is based in great tragedy. Sometimes, things just work out. [:D]


"I thought you where trying to deny irish pain?.... what passes for your humour is definatly painful "


quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

quote:

ORIGINAL: GhostWhoWalks

How about, a reliable wireless network, and decent parking space?



I don't play stupid online games, real life only... and I live in London, one of the best transport infrastructures in the world (Till midnight when it turns into a feckin pumpkin!!!!) I don't need a car.

I thought you where trying to deny irish pain?.... what passes for your humour is definatly painful [;)]





RedMagic1 -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 7:07:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GhostWhoWalks
being controlled by a harsh, strict Master who doesn't care about them?

The opposite of love is not hate, but indifference.  There are plenty of men who -- at least in their fantasies -- want to be objectified, cuckolded, and financially enslaved by a princess who provides plenty of negative attention but doesn't show the "weakness" of being a mortal equal.  Is it so hard to understand that women have similar fantasies about being enslaved to men?

If the Master is paying attention to the sub/slave, and keeping her around, the Master cares.

Also, bear in mind that many of those female "I want a dom who will use me hard, no limits" profiles are created by men, in order to wank, or to separate horny guys from their money.




NihilusZero -> RE: Control without Love? (4/17/2009 7:14:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

Well fiddlefuck

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