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slave training - 4/20/2009 6:31:14 PM   
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ok this may be a dumb question but, where do people get slave training, Are there any special books, websites, classes where people can be trained. Does anyone have any favorite websites, books etc that they use for training purposes?

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RE: slave training - 4/20/2009 6:47:38 PM   
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What does "slave training" mean to you?  And what does it mean to Thorn of Desire?

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RE: slave training - 4/20/2009 6:49:43 PM   
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It has been my experience that most D's and M's prefer to do their own training. 

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RE: slave training - 4/20/2009 6:53:15 PM   
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I got a correspondence course from Sally Struthers. It feel between Gunsmithing and TV/VCR repair on the commercial.

In all seriousness, I don't think it's something you 'get' from books or websites, it's something you build within you.


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RE: slave training - 4/20/2009 6:56:05 PM   
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Mistress Abernathy's Slave Manual is the only book I know of. Haven't read it.
Is Butchmann's Academy still in operation? Although they primarily focused on gay males.

Here, the first thing he taught me was how he liked his tea.
The second was not to stop sucking him while having an orgasm. That was accomplished with a nasty wooden spoon.
But it's no surprise that the tea came first. The sex stuff is fun, but the tea is more important in everyday life.  He drinks a lot of tea, doesn't have nearly the same number of bj's a day as he does cups of tea!

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RE: slave training - 4/20/2009 7:07:38 PM   
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ok this may be a dumb question but, where do people get slave training, Are there any special books, websites, classes where people can be trained. Does anyone have any favorite websites, books etc that they use for training purposes?


It all depends on what you want to get trained to do.  If you want to learn massages, your local junior college might be a place to try. If you want to learn protocol, try Mrs. Manners.  Manicures? Pedicures?  Give the local beauty college a ring.  If cooking is your thing, again the local junior colleges often have a chef program. 

Personally I dislike the word training when the meaning is really learning to serve a Dominant.  Mostly that can only be done in person with your Dominant.  The Dominant will tell you how the morning coffee is to be prepared, what is wanted on a sandwich, what foods are prefered for dinner, and where to put away the laundry.  I can't imagine how some Dominants advertise that they do training.  How could they possibly know the requirements of your future Dominant? 

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RE: slave training - 4/20/2009 7:12:31 PM   
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Even Miss Abernathy's books only appeal to a certain segment of the community.  Good books, and a high recommendation for anyone interested in being service oriented to any degree. 

But, like others have said what is involved is so personal and differs so much from one relationship to the next, that there is no standard manual.   Find things that interest you, and then learn how to do that better.  If there is anythings specific your master wants you to do, or that you're wanting to offer - learn that.  Could be anything from how to cook, how to shine boots, how to take care of toys in the toy bag, wine selection, cocksucking, how to answer the phone properly, how to sit, hand gestures, and so on and so on.

Pick a couple things you want to focus on first, and ask for help with that.

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RE: slave training - 4/20/2009 7:23:26 PM   
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quote:


ok this may be a dumb question but, where do people get slave training, Are there any special books, websites, classes where people can be trained. Does anyone have any favorite websites, books etc that they use for training purposes?


If you search there will be plenty of people willing to train but I suspect that many of them have questionable motives. Instead, I would suggest that you figure out what you want to do. If you want to move more gracefully, take a dancing class. There are classes and books on the formal art of serving meals and tea. What is that you want to accomplish with training?

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RE: slave training - 4/20/2009 7:55:01 PM   
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this may sound stupid but I was hoping for some kind of book. I guess I have a romantic view, kind of like that movie Dangerous Beauty

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RE: slave training - 4/20/2009 8:08:37 PM   
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this may sound stupid but I was hoping for some kind of book. I guess I have a romantic view, kind of like that movie Dangerous Beauty


Sorry.  There is no one size fits all.  This is real life where everyone has different needs and wants. 

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RE: slave training - 4/21/2009 12:24:32 AM   
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you can opt to learn various theories that may appeal to a current or future owner. you can find a good list of m/s oriented books here:

http://www.slaveregister.com/listings/books

best of luck to you.

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RE: slave training - 4/21/2009 3:42:04 AM   
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My sister has been involved in CM activities for years and she said there are guys that claim to train slaves but most (all?) are only interested in getting to do whatever they what with someone elses property.  People on this thread are right .  A slave needs to learn what her master wants and everyone is different so there may be some information (books articles etc) out there but those can only give suggestions.  Going to bondage parties or something related can give both of you ideas but when it comes down to it the "training" is between the two of you.

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RE: slave training - 4/21/2009 4:31:21 AM   
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i couldn't agree more, the best training is communication between you and your Dom/Master. Blessings

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RE: slave training - 4/21/2009 6:53:54 AM   
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Is Butchmann's Academy still in operation?


I've been thinking of a new career ... and, well, slave training ... now that's a new vocation.

I could set up a farm, private, fenced in, hundreds of acres, and, well, I could accept applicants, well heeled but we'd have a scholarship program for the needy. We'd bring new recruits every two weeks by the half dozen, into the foyer for their initial 10am orientation lecture and signing papers. Once contractuallyl signed in, they would dutifully head off single file to the living room for their first of many to come lineup inspections. Obediently placing their hands above their heads, the attentive and focused staff would circle them, grunting "ah hah" with a slow nod of the head, or "anh anh eee", with a wistful side-to-side motion as a graduate slave kept notes on the particulars for each student slave being inspected by the Master Master which will go into their pedigree papers and will be held in perpetuity whenever a reference is required.

The Headmaster will smack an ass of a student, to see her reaction as she is startled by the force. He'd lift the skirt of another whose legs were held wide and poke at her hole with his pointer to gauge the opening. Somehow, he seemed to have the right experience to know to which use each might be best suited. He'd open the blouse of a particularly big-titted one and twist her nipple almost 270 degrees and nod appreciatively as she responds wondrously, each time, a notation being placed in various columns of the checklist for each slave. Another was told to bend before them, exposing her anus, where ginger roots were inserted as she was told to get back in line and wait. Finally, after the obligatory group spanking as they sang the school song (the spanking was just so they know what punishment will feel like when they do do something wrong), the girls were collared and leashed, and each assigned to a waiting Master-in-training, who will take them through their two-week course in how to be a good slave.One by one, off they go, on all fours, to eat dinner, out of the doggy bowl at the side of their newly assigned Master in training as he sits down to a sumptuous dinner prepared by graduate slave trainees on an internship program.

All but one ... She is still pensively standing there, alone, afraid, for an hour, then another, well after the others left on their knees. Her blindfold now starting to feel warmly reassuring, her cuffs fitting nicely but restricting her movement as she kneeled arms behind linked to her ankles. Wondering what is to be done with her. Half naked in the chilly room, too afraid to move (the last command being to stand there until told otherwise), the smell of dinner long ago wafting into her hungry senses, she obediently waits, her nipples still hard from her tweaking test, her soft ass and warm thighs no longer stinging from the spanking, the block of pine still in her mouth, starting to taste reassuring as her teeth have made perfect indendations, she waits. And waits. Finally she hears a rustling becoming aware of someone else in the room. How long has he been there she knows not, but, her shoulders droop with relief. ... her Master has finally arrived to take her into training.

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RE: slave training - 4/21/2009 9:13:23 AM   
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quote:

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this may sound stupid but I was hoping for some kind of book. I guess I have a romantic view, kind of like that movie Dangerous Beauty


Never seen the movie. What do you want the book to teach you? An overall slave manual could be helpful but it's just as likely to be useless since the author won't know your owner.

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RE: slave training - 4/21/2009 9:26:12 AM   
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this may sound stupid but I was hoping for some kind of book. I guess I have a romantic view, kind of like that movie Dangerous Beauty


Never seen the movie. What do you want the book to teach you? An overall slave manual could be helpful but it's just as likely to be useless since the author won't know your owner.


Dangerous Beauty was a romantic take on the life of Veronica Franco, a Venetian Courtesan.  I found the movie to be a silly bit of fluff but the real person quite interesting.  http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/efts/IWW/BIOS/A0017.html

OP...Being a courtesan isn't the same as being a slave.
Perhaps you need to have a discussion with your Master about your desire to learn.  If the desire is to please him, he should be able to guide you in that direction.  There are books and websites galore that talk of one person's way to train a slave but what matters is how your Master wants you to serve...not what is discussed in a book.
Good luck and best wishes.

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RE: slave training - 4/21/2009 9:36:28 AM   
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I googled sites that were written by people in the lifestyle. I then found a local Master who trained subs/slaves.  It was quite wonderful in the beginning, until I realized he was using me more than training/teaching me.  I , through experience, have learned that it is not the route to go.  Hooking up with a group and experiencing different types of play without being owned, talking with others and being able to ask questions and getting varied answers to help formulate in your mind what it is that you desire, need, do not want etc,,, so that when you meet potential Masters, you have something to work with...rather than offering blindness to a relationship. 
If you are lucky enough to find someone right away that you are compatible with, and you feel your inner need to serve, that is one in a million, but, also quite the welcome gift.    

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RE: slave training - 4/21/2009 10:41:36 AM   
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...where do people get slave training...


it has been this slave's experience that folks get slave training from whatever or whoever masters them.
 
in a general sense, folks are taught basic obedience as a wee one.  they learn what to do and not do to please their care-givers---no one this slave has ever met wasn't born demanding necessary attention and care.  human beings pop out into the world as very dominant, albeit helpless, creatures.  we have to be taught to submit to the situations and the individual(s) providing our care.  over time, some of us learn to dominate our own lives and some even go so far as desiring to dominate the lives of others.
 
some folks are slave to a particular way of life, career or ideal.  book knowledge regarding your area of interest could assist you with that.  George Orwell's 1984 comes to mind, as does an assortment of texts generated by religious sects, universities or professional associations.
 
some folks are a slave to a particular person or persons.  this slave would encourage first-hand experience with that person or person as the most effective way to train to serve their specific needs/desires.
 
here in Los Angeles one can attend workshops and mentoring sessions in exchange for a fee, although this slave has not personally gone that route, professional help might be something that resonates for you.
 
best wishes!!!

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RE: slave training - 4/21/2009 12:22:21 PM   
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General education that most people should have: how to cook simple nutricious meals, how to do simple household mending, quick housecleaning, how to do laundry, how to balance a checkbook, how to plan a menu.

Stuff fem subs night find useful: belly dancing, yoga or other flexibility training, simple baking, basic car repair, sports for dummies.

Courtesan training primarily consisted of the training any upper class woman would have - ettiquette and manners to know how to speak with people of different classes. Who to address "Your Excellency" vs "Highness", how to handle ten course meals. More importantly they were educated which most females at the time were not. Reading and writing allowed them to be knowledgable in world and local events that the men would be talking about. Since upper class women weren't usually knowledgable in such events, the courtesans had conversational gambits to keep them coming back since at home they wouldn't have such conversations. And these men returning meant the women could keep earning money.


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RE: slave training - 4/21/2009 1:48:40 PM   
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Can you clarify? your Master needs to learn how to train a slave? or you just want to read books, romantic books about slaves?

If you just want books for entertainment- The Beauty Books, The Story of O and The Marketplace series are a good place to start

If you want books to learn, as someone stated  Miss Abernathy Slave Manual and  Christina Abernathy's Erotica Slavehood

there are plenty of others... you can go to Amazon.com search for bdsm or sexual slavery.

It really just depends on what you are or your Master is looking for!

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