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GoddessArtemis -> Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 1:52:20 PM)

I am forwarding below a copy of a contract that a submissive developed himself. I have not commented so far on its contents to him. I have read many contracts over time, and have not felt many fit My desires/chastity rules/preferences. I have several changes I will be making, though I am interested in the submissive/slave opinion regarding this type of agreement. I will be interested to receive your comments/opinions as well as any additions/deletions that would make the experience more appealing from the 'chastised' perspective.


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Contract

This is an agreement between GoddessArtemis and the slave known as 0X9-8X2-1X8

Tributes:

1. Monthly Tribute: slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 agrees to pay a monthly tribute of not less than $000 to GoddessArtemis. This is a basic tribute, and there are no obligations on GoddessArtemis for this payment. This tribute may never go below $000, though may be increased by GoddessArtemis at anytime for any reason.

2. Release tribute: a tribute of at least $000 will be paid every time slave is released from chastity by GoddessArtemis. Failure to pay this tribute within 24 hours of being given permission to release means slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 has forfeited his right to release. GoddessArtemis may change the release tribute to a very high figure in order to see how much Her slave wants release. Slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 is not obligated to pay any release tribute. Failure to pay simply means that slave forfeits his release at that time.

3. Other Tributes: other tributes may also be added at GoddessArtemis’ discretion.

Fees:

1. Whining fee: this is an additional $000 fee slave 0X9-8X2-1X8
Agrees to pay every time he begs GoddessArtemis to remove chastity belt. This is a nuisance fee for GoddessArtemis times listening to Her slave beg. GoddessArtemis may charge this fee anytime she finds slaves correspondence to have a whiny tone to it. Usually this is a minimum requirement that the slave at least begs once for release and pay the fee before GoddessArtemis will even consider release.

2. Other fees: other fees may be assessed for any reason by GoddessArtemis. Slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 agrees to pay these fees without complaint or will be assessed the $000 whining fee in addition to the other fees.

Penalty/penance:
1. Early release: this is the penalty Slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 will pay if he removes his chastity belt without permission. The penalty will be at least $000 it may be increased by GoddessArtemis for any reason but will not be less than $000. slave will be in doghouse until he pays this penalty. This penalty is merely financial GoddessArtemis will add other punishments.
2. Other penalties: other penalties will be assessed by GoddessArtemis for all forms of misbehavior. The amount of these penalty's will be up to GoddessArtemis, and slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 will pay them without complaint, or be assessed the additional whining fee.
3. Penance: This is the way slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 shows its gratitude to GoddessArtemis or to show contriteness. Penance requires slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 to give up something it enjoys doing for the duration of penance period. If this is something that costs money, slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 will give all the money it would have spent on this to GoddessArtemis.

Gifts: Any date for any reason (birthday's, anniversary's, holiday's etc.) may be designated a gift day. slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 agrees to give a gift of not less than $000 to GoddessArtemis on that day. This is a gift and GoddessArtemis is not obligated to do anything because of this gift.
Winnings: slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 realizes that the reason he wins at any game of chance is because of GoddessArtemis’ divine influence on his life. Therefore slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 agrees to send as an additional tribute all moneys he wins in any and all games of chance.
GoddessArtemis is under no obligation to be grateful for any tributes fees, penalties or penance bestowed upon Her. slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 is obligated to thank GoddessArtemis for giving him the opportunity to serve Her by paying tributes, fees, penalties or penance.

All of the above terms and conditions are binding to slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 and he may not change any of the rules set forth.

GoddessArtemis reserves the right to change any of the rules for any reason. These new rules will also be binding to slave 0X9-8X2-1X8. Any changes GoddessArtemis makes to this agreement are final and no discussion will be allowed without the whining fee being assessed.





LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 1:59:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GoddessArtemis

3. Other Tributes: other tributes may also be added at GoddessArtemis’ discretion.

2. Other fees: other fees may be assessed for any reason by GoddessArtemis. Slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 agrees to pay these fees without complaint or will be assessed the $000 whining fee in addition to the other fees.

What's the point of having a contract at all if you include these???

Your contract just needs to be "Slave agrees to pay at least this amount every month. Goddess may assess any other fees and tributes at her whim to be paid within 3 business days."

Although I understand your desire to make things more specific, that's really what it boils down to.

quote:


Winnings: slave 0X9-8X2-1X8 realizes that the reason he wins at any game of chance is because of GoddessArtemis’ divine influence on his life.

I can't see the reasoning behind this?

If you want him to give you all winnings and windfalls, that's one thing. Saying "you owe it to me because I control all odds and chance in the world" is malarky.

You don't mention any consequences for failure? Will there be a system? Or simply just immediate release with no hope of reassessment?




GoddessArtemis -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 2:52:50 PM)

As mentioned.. this was something he developed; I have had no part in it.. so it was produced from his musings. I have just asked for opinions on both D/s sides for my own interest.




AAkasha -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 2:54:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessArtemis

As mentioned.. this was something he developed; I have had no part in it.. so it was produced from his musings. I have just asked for opinions on both D/s sides for my own interest.


It is his fantasy.
The fact that you read it got his rocks off.
The chance of him executing it faithfully are slim to none.
That's my opinion based on the way he has worded it.


Akasha




PenelopePitstop -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 3:22:22 PM)

Um, was this an extract, or the whole thing? Does the whole reality/fantasy he wants revolve around money? I understand that money is an important symbol of power (and thus one can express one's feelings about power through money and why the hell not) but it all sounds...well, rather boring to me.

But I'm a newbie so I wouldn't know really. That's my initial opinion.




sweetpettjenny -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 3:35:28 PM)

So truelly this is more about money than chastity?? thats how i am seeing things




PenelopePitstop -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 3:46:45 PM)

And another thought strikes me...although I am prone to overanalysing things...although I'm sub, i would imagine that If I were his Domme, I'd feel a bit insulted because it kind of reminds me about the popular male misconception that women are only interested in money...

But hey, if it's his thing, it's his thing. What are you gonna do? (part rhetorical question, part genuine question)




GoddessArtemis -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 3:59:31 PM)

Mmmmhmm...

When I read the agreement... I wasnt amused. I have chosen to gather opinions on it, rather than dismiss it wholly, as I do understand there is a fetish component to it.




arson982 -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 4:08:05 PM)

After reading your profile I could see how this person came up with this contract.




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 6:04:32 PM)

I use a contract, but only a small portion (a minute portion, in fact) covers anything financial. Because if I own a slave, I already own all his income. So he wouldn't have any disposable income to pay Me a penalty for whining or begging for release from a chastity device.
But I don't do online or long distance slavery. I am not even sure how you would control such a thing. I certainly wouldn't want a boy writing Me bad checks which I was trying to deposit after he was already on his way home or had closed his P.O. Box. As to the gaming clause, if I was in Las Vegas, Atlantic City or any other gaming mecca, I would be the one gambling while the boy was holding the lighter for My cigarettes. So that one would be unecessary for Me, also.
But if you have any extra boys who are driven to send money, and you can't keep up with the excess, please send them directly to My email box. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. I'll take the money! *W*




cloudboy -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 9:22:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: arson982

After reading your profile I could see how this person came up with this contract.


You hit that nail on the HEAD!!!!!

I say you deserve tribute!!




AAkasha -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/2/2006 9:34:17 PM)

Something more realistic that was a more "professional" relationship might be something like this:

Femdom takes possession of the male sub's cock on (date) and the submissive must earn release by paying money or impressing her with gifts or attempts to win her favor.

As part of submissive's teasing and denial, he would have to endure:

*Voice mail messages from the femdom that are suggestive and teasing.
*Emails from the femdom with detailed instructions for tasks the submissive most perform related to dressing nasty, nipple torture, restrictions on urintation, etc.
* Packages from the femdom that must be opened on command, including pairs of her panties, lingerie for him to wear or videos of her masturbating and laughing at his plight

You get the picture.
Now, the submissive must EARN his release by taking equal time, effort, and money to get freedom.

This is the kind of "pay for play" chastity program that I would enjoy implementing because it's close to what I do with my personal partners. There's not fun in "teasing and denial" if there is no "teasing" and just "denial." I don't believe that chastity means "Lock up the sub's cock and tell him to send cash when he's dying to get out."

Akasha




Sensualips -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/3/2006 5:43:28 AM)

quote:

Something more realistic that was a more "professional" relationship might be something like this:


Aakasha is my hero.




littleone35 -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/3/2006 7:53:36 AM)

Sounds to me like the whole relationship would be about money not anything deeper.

littleone




yourMissTress -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/3/2006 8:25:00 AM)

If he didn't pay you to post this, then I'd say you are defeating your own purpose.




veronicaofML -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/4/2006 12:36:07 AM)

I use a contract, but only a small portion (a minute portion, in fact) covers anything financial. Because if I own a slave, I already own all his income. So he wouldn't have any disposable income to pay Me a penalty for whining or begging for release from a chastity device.
But I don't do online or long distance slavery. I am not even sure how you would control such a thing. I certainly wouldn't want a boy writing Me bad checks which I was trying to deposit after he was already on his way home or had closed his P.O. Box. As to the gaming clause, if I was in Las Vegas, Atlantic City or any other gaming mecca, I would be the one gambling while the boy was holding the lighter for My cigarettes. So that one would be unecessary for Me, also.
But if you have any extra boys who are driven to send money, and you can't keep up with the excess, please send them directly to My email box. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. I'll take the money! *W*

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dammit.
1st time i ever agreed with Her!




imtempting -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/4/2006 5:20:51 PM)

I dont think it is viable. Seems like all he cares about is you controlling his money.




littlesarbonn -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/4/2006 7:41:01 PM)

The whole forced chastity thing has always been one of my strong fantasies, but the introduction of the whole money thing would probably be the one thing to cause me to never even think of pursuing it. This may go a bit off topic, but I hate the topic of money like the plague, and I guess that's why I'd never do well in a bdsm relationship that was all about financial domination of any sorts. It's not that I couldn't afford it, but that it would just bother the crap out of me so much that I'd never even think of exploring it.




DragonNphoenix -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/4/2006 8:18:37 PM)

I can understand the need for contracts, we have one that we use ourselves. This one is different, though... it seems to be just about the money... where is the deeper aspects of his submission???

1st Girl Phoenix




sultryvoice -> RE: Chastity Agreement (comments/opinions) (2/4/2006 8:48:49 PM)

I also read her profile and it clearly states tributes. This is why he wrote the contract as such. The whole contract doesn't need to be wholly of this nature. A small part is sufficient. Akasha does make some good points in her message with the contract she has suggested. I have not had much expereince in contracts but I do know it needs to encompass more than just one topic..Submission doesn't cover just one item. He is using his power over you Goddess to get what he wants rather than you having the power..Of cousre this is my opinion, YMMV.....

Respectfully,
sultry




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