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RE: Racial Domination - 4/30/2009 8:29:17 AM   
MstrTiger


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I have engaged in race role-play with slaves before, I quite like it, I was the sexy plantation owners son and he was the house boy. I have not been in a full on relationship with someone on those terms before, though I don’t think I would rule it out.

I should also mention that even though power exchange part of your post does not bother me the mention of childhood sexuality does.

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RE: Racial Domination - 4/30/2009 8:49:24 AM   
marie2


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Status: offline 		Yes, people will judge, especially something that involves racism or what they interpret as racism.  If they do not display anger and disapproval, they feel as if they are adding to racism by remaining silent.  People will show the same over-reactions and total outrage when male/female supremacy comes up.  The bottom line is that some people simply cannot wrap their minds around certain things, therefore it's easier for them to just adopt the idea that it's flat-out wrong for someone else to live it, feel it, speak it, engage in it, or whatever.

My suggestion is to just do your own thing, as long as you're not hurting anyone.  Don't worry about other kinksters being accepting, don't worry about anyone else's approval.  No matter who you are, what you do, or how you identify in life, there will always be people around to try and tell you you're wrong.  

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RE: Racial Domination - 4/30/2009 10:02:11 AM   
LafayetteLady


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quote:

ORIGINAL: blackni66erslave

Why do people in the bdsm comunity get so bent out of shape when the hear racial domination.Im a black male slave,who has been serving a white Dom since i was 8 yeears old.and i love him for it.Im now 32 and i still love to serve whites.but some of the people here don"t like me  because of it.Why? I go into a chat room and im banded because of my name.Im a slave to the bone.so why do people here out of all places no accept it.


I, like many others, do not like the "n" word in any form, no matter how it is used.  I will admit that I find it less offensive that you are using it to describe yourself than I would if a dom was using it to describe what they were searching for.

I think what likely disturbs most people about you is that you say you were "assigned" your position in life at the age of 8.  It is difficult enough for an 8 year old child to be placed in foster care, but it is doubly horrible to be further abused while you were there.  I'm going to take a guess that what happens to you is that people are first offended by your sn, then you express how you were essentially raised to think of yourself as less than the rest of the world.  Most of us are raised to believe we have choices.  To beat into a child, black, white, pink or blue that they are "less than" the rest of the world is what is truly offensive. 

If you had grown up being given all the choices and opportunities that were available to you and then chosen to be the way you are, would people view it differently?  Maybe.  I doubt your own ethnic community would or will ever accept you.  But at my very core, my heart aches for you to have the opportunity, even at your more advanced age, to take the opportunity to explore the world and what it truly has to offer you because you were never given that chance.  Even in prison, people who have harmed children in any way are at the bottom of the food chain.  So when even the most criminally depraved of the world think it's wrong, you really should give it some thought. 

My wish for you is that someone in your area takes you on and helps you to overcome your childhood and then assists you in finding and achieving your full potential as a person.

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RE: Racial Domination - 4/30/2009 11:08:49 AM   
4u2spoil


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quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Another person says they aren't comfortable with stereotypes...and yet, we all stereotype, like it or not, with almost everyone we meet.  Just because a white submissive says she seeks out and prefers a black dominant, it does not automatically mean they are stereotyping...you'd have to sit down and listen to their reasons for it.


Hi, that would be me. We all do have stereotypes and biases, and some of them are based in truth. But just because they exist doesn't mean I have to be comfortable playing into someone's stereotype, or watching someone do it. I don't think all white people think all black people are n_______s. I don't think all black people think all black people are n______s, yet it's a largely unflattering connotation that I take exception to - as mentioned, regardless of the color of the person subscribing to it.

quote:


Someone states that skin color should not be used for humiliation or degradation...for heaven's sake, why not within the context of play?


Me again. If that's someone's kink, I don't get it but do whatever floats your boat. It's the derogatory middle part of the OPs name that I find offensive, more than his desire to serve white people or his misinformed view that the way the world works is to be subservient to white people. If this were a gay guy with the name limpwristedf_g I'd find it every bit as offensive, regardless of how he might like to be addressed in private.

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RE: Racial Domination - 4/30/2009 2:47:43 PM   
GYPZYQUEEN


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Status: offline 		Several thoughts..

**To me playing with cultural/historic trauma gets into what I call dark side  or shadow play..
I t is hard limit for me for many reasons
.
It is highly contreversial and many believe we should not play with these ugly realities.
They bring up current struggles, mind triggers, PTSD, and challenge secercy ,mistrust and all the protective mechanisims an opressed "group" may have in place culturally or as an individual.

**It is an emotional minefield
BUT>..
Maybe there is something in the shadow we wish to know?
Maybe we wish to face a fear?? to transform pain to wisdom..to to end repression and begin healing..??to plan a  re-scene where we are in control this time??

**OFTEN though
one  may be playing with an actual ABUSER not
 an internalized "acting as if" one

Within  BDsM we find acceptance for emotions that would other wise not be acceptable but again we are aware
it is NEGOTIATED( by sane,safe adults) and there is consent..
 
**If one FREELY chooses a D/s relationship based on race play ...common kink..foot size..location..who cooks better..
it is THEIR preferance and if they are HAPPY and fullfilled then
so be it.
 
**HOWEVER
To have been "serving since 8" makes my skin crawl..and I think of OP's mind..then....what was done...and now...

**I get the odd message from DOMS that call me a ni99er
(I am 1/4) and tell me to wash their floors..I dont give a shit..
I get message s asking if I would like to DOM a white
to"make up for all that was done' to us
I find presumptuous of my mind and beliefs and offensive to say the least

** THERE ARE NUMEROUS PAPERS AND STUDIES done that indicate many use  ni99er...fag...queer..fat...etc  as a group as a WAY
TO RECLAIM AND TAKE BACK THE WORD ..to bring it to a new form..to take it back FROM the original pricks that thought of it as a derogatory..label

***thus the magazine Cosmic Cunt for eg

GQ

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RE: Racial Domination - 5/1/2009 3:51:51 AM   
ranja


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Status: offline 		I have troubles understanding why some words carry such a load...the word Nigger the word Cunt the word Slut...is there even an equivalant N word for whites? and if not should there be one? Why can people call themselves Slut but not Nigger?

I have no feelings on the N word...i do not use it because of social pressure but i do not understand why it is so offensive to me it sounds very close to Negro which i believe is a totally accepted word. I do not understand why the word Paki is so offensive either...to me it is just short for Pakistani...I am Dutch and i have no clue why English speaking people call us Nederlanders Dutch...it might be a derogatory term for all i know, i have no desire to teach all English speaking people that really we are not Dutch but Nederlanders or Hollanders even.

When the OP chose his nickname to join the site he was obviously allowed, do nicknames not get vetted like pictures?..should a moderator step in and help him chose a different name?
If the site accepts his name should he not have free access to the chat rooms?

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RE: Racial Domination - 5/1/2009 4:53:45 AM   
marysdream


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Status: offline 		wow....i would love to have 5 mins! with your "white Dom"....this is beyond intolerable! he is simply a child molester!
please seek out help to insure your health and happiness
ree!

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RE: Racial Domination - 5/1/2009 4:43:10 PM   
MissJanice2


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Status: offline 		Interesting post from the young lad.  Sounds like a lot about me syndrome going on here.
I was raised in the Civil Rights area, and hate racisim in any form.   That is the way it is in my home.  No racial slurs. No racisim.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Mistress_Jan
 
 

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RE: Racial Domination - 5/2/2009 5:26:38 AM   
CougarDyke


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Status: offline 		Black slaves are HOT!

bringing out their race in derogetory terms excites both of us mentally

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RE: Racial Domination - 5/4/2009 8:05:36 AM   
MainFragger


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Status: offline 		To me, part of BDSM is being "wrong". If racism is considered "Wrong" thats just one more reason to use it in session. I'm not a racist, but if I thought it would get yor goat a little or if I thought I knew you well enough to rub you the wrong way just enough to annoy you a little, but not really piss you off permanently, then it would probably be the first thing I'd go for. I have no problem saying f'ed up things to people.. In fact, I generally revel in it. If pulling out the race card yanks your chain, then I'm gonna yank as hard as I know I can...

I'm fearless about it too. I don't go out of my way to start fights, but I don't back down from them.. I've been at plenty of parties when I was the only grain of salt in the pepper shaker. Most of the time it wasn't a problem. But racism goes both ways, and I have still gotten into some fights. No biggie. I don't take it personally. I may have mention in some other thread, I have pretty thick skin, and I'm pretty hard to offend. Most of my friends are Italian, and I'm Jewish. Sometimes they make jokes about Jews and the Holocaust. Some of which are truly tasteless. I just try to return the favor on occassion and give as good as I get. My friends actually respect me for that.

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RE: Racial Domination - 5/4/2009 2:26:39 PM   
slavekal


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Status: offline 		Did you mean eighTEEN years old?  I sure hope so.

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RE: Racial Domination - 5/5/2009 11:01:13 AM   
GYPZYQUEEN


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Status: offline 		I am thinking of changing my profile name to reflect my mixed race..
*whigger   or WHindian...or  maybe NIndian,,
 
or maybe  just ZEBRA or

bitzer....that 's what they say in Austrailia...bit of this bit of that

GQ

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RE: Racial Domination - 5/5/2009 11:17:23 AM   
OmegaG


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quote:

ORIGINAL: blackni66erslave

Why do people in the bdsm comunity get so bent out of shape when the hear racial domination.Im a black male slave,who has been serving a white Dom since i was 8 yeears old.and i love him for it.Im now 32 and i still love to serve whites.but some of the people here don"t like me  because of it.Why? I go into a chat room and im banded because of my name.Im a slave to the bone.so why do people here out of all places no accept it.


You say that you are a slave to the bone, you also state on your profile that many people have asked you to change your user name and it's not happening.

Here's my thing, you know the conotations you are attaching to your user name when you use it, you expect controversy and attention other wise you would have picked another user name, however, it seems that you weren't quite expecting the full extent of your actions.  You probably planned on some flames and some insults, you hoped for communications and debate to take of from your chosen venacular, but you never expected that people would choose to block you or ban you.  Intuition tells me that you are an attention whore and not being able to have a platform is just killing you.

But you seem to be forgetting that changing the world surrounding you is futile.  You can demand that people accept you as you are but they have the choice to stay away from you as well and you can't change that.

And it's not a very slave like quality anyway.

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RE: Racial Domination - 5/5/2009 11:17:54 AM   
LadyConstanze


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Status: offline 		Like almost everybody else the fact that you were 8 years old just freaks me out, that's child abuse and I hope the **** will pay for that one day, it's so far beyond disgusting that I'm stunned!

As for the N word - well, you might be OK with it but for others it might be a slap in the face, you entering a chat room with that name, nobody knows who's behind it, there could be some people in the chat room that are offended by it, because it's BDSM it doesn't mean that "everything goes"...
Racial play is not for me, but I'm not against it, what 2 consenting adults do privately is up to them, it's a bit like knowing that your neighbors have a sex life, but you really don't want them to have sex on your lawn. Same with scat play, not my cup of tea at all, though if 2 people engage in it, up to them, as long as I don't have to see or smell it, none of my business, the moment you use the N word in public, you rub people's faces in, you can argue that you got a right to use it because it is your kink, but in the same way they have the right to get upset and ban you, because they feel offended. The easiest solution might be a name that doesn't rub so many people the wrong way!

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