FirmhandKY -> RE: Reeducating The Masses Through NewSpeak (5/4/2009 2:19:44 PM)
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY Lorr, I think that if the Congress actually proceeded to attempt to try American political figures for "torture" or "war crimes" for actions taken during the fight against terrorism in the last 8 years, it would likely be a national watershed event. .......couldn't agree more. From my point of view it would mark the point where US politicians are held responsible in more than an electoral sense for their actions. quote:
It would be a break in the American contract about an "honorable opposition", and convince many - including me - that nothing other than active and armed resistance would be required to return this nation to a semblance of normality. .......er......'normality'? In a thread where we're essentially discussing euphemisms? You appear to be suggesting that it is 'normal' for US politicians not to be held accountable for their actions in office once they've left office, and further appear to be threatening violence in order to support that position. Have i read you wrong? In which case please tell me how...... As has been discussed several times, it is some people's assumption, that just because they disagreed with Bush's policies, that by definition he is guilty of some sort of crime. Many Americans may not have liked some of the things he did, or his record, but it certainly appears that he and his administration made more than simply a "good faith effort" to ensure that nothing they did was illegal. Now, that he is out of office, his opponents (who never agreed with anything he proposed or did, and never will, and never would have) are attempting to redefine his actions into terms of illegal actions. When, in fact, they were, and are policy disagreements . When, in America, a party in power has to start worrying about being criminally prosecuted for policies differences once they are out of power, then the entire concept of a peaceful transfer of power is gone. "Loyal opposition" will no longer exist. American Democracy and the American Constitutional Republic will be no different than a banana republic where the strongest (most violent, most willing to kill, torture and "disappear" his opponents) will gain, and then maintain power, and men of good will, will be scarce on the political scene. Hell, we have a hard enough time now getting anything other than a "politician" and just another member of the politician class to run for office - what do you think the result will be when we start putting political opponents in prison because we disagree with them? This isn't a new concern from me. In fact, protection of elected officials for what they may say, or their actions in pursuit of their elected office's agendas is a basic part of the founding fathers concept of a Republic. That is what I consider "normal". Firm
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