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24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 9:11:57 PM

Nullsub

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in the past months i have been able to have my first collared experience as i found my first Mistress and have been living under her collar ever since. I have been extremely thrilled with my experience so far. My experience as my Dommes property have been better than i could have ever imagined when researching the life style. My Mistress and i have known each other for months now and we finaly have the opportunity to allow me to become her live in house slave for a handful of days. This is going to be a big change for the both of us and there is so much that i want to learn and do.

So, i was just curious if there was a tutorial on house slave training and duties of a house slave guide? i already have a pretty good idea but i was just hoping there was something really thorough on how to train a house slave and how a house slave should act. The only results i've found are sites that you must pay for the information and i don't exactly know the validity of the information. Does anyone know of good tutorials and/or articles on house slave etiquette and training?

Thank you.

(Also, when are the CM admins going to stop trying to cover up the fact that their website won't work in google chrome, everyone knows it.. Just fix it already!

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 9:21:42 PM

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Everyone is basically gonna tell you the same thing...so i'll save you a LOT of reading... ask your Dom what she wants and do that... and have fun....

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 9:24:48 PM

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Breathesasone beat me to it

quote:

(Also, when are the CM admins going to stop trying to cover up the fact that their website won't work in google chrome, everyone knows it.. Just fix it already! )

I'm sure this will go over well with the admins and folks who volunteer their time to keep this site running. Please feel free to ask for your money back anytime.

< Message edited by WyldHrt -- 5/3/2009 9:25:39 PM >

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 9:28:41 PM

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quote:

Breathesasone beat me to it

.... i'm psychic.... Its a gift

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 9:39:19 PM

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Thanks for the advise torward my original question. I appreciate it, though it would be nice if someone could find a tutorial, guide, or article on the subject.

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
I'm sure this will go over well with the admins and folks who volunteer their time to keep this site running. Please feel free to ask for your money back anytime.

Instead of arguing why you are completely wrong to defend lack of functionality and lack of effort to actually make the website accessible to all, i instead ponder why you are so against actually fixing the bugs and opening collarme to a much larger range of user base as well as easier accessibility to all of the internet. Perhaps you fear that the more accessible collarme is the more popular it will get and therefore become mainstream? I hope you will reconsider and rethink your hasty and immature accusation.

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 9:40:53 PM

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someone's still hanging out in fantasy land, waiting for his "twue submissives handbook" to arrive. communication is going to do more for you than posting here will.

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 9:46:22 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: PMnpanthercub

someone's still hanging out in fantasy land, waiting for his "twue submissives handbook" to arrive. communication is going to do more for you than posting here will.

PM

You don't have to be a jerk about it.

I'm going to abandon this thread since others would rather flame than to be sincere and helpful and point me in the correct direction even if they don't agree with my post.

I didn't realize CM's forums were so aggressive. I somehow believed that it would be a much more open minded and kind community. I apologize for posting this thread. Obviously I should have read the rules where it says, "don't ask about guides that will give you an idea on how the life-style works".

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 9:50:06 PM

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quote:

Instead of arguing why you are completely wrong to defend lack of functionality and lack of effort to actually make the website accessible to all, i instead ponder why you are so against actually fixing the bugs and opening collarme to a much larger range of user base as well as easier accessibility to all of the internet. Perhaps you fear that the more accessible collarme is the more popular it will get and therefore become mainstream? I hope you will reconsider and rethink your hasty and immature accusation

Reread what I wrote, cupcake. I made no accusations, merely an observation. This is a free site staffed by people who volunteer their time to keep it running. Making demands of them seems (to me) to be more than a bit ungrateful when the cost to join and use this site is exactly nothing. My stance on this neither hasty nor immature, as I'm not the one stomping my little feet and ordering the site admins around.

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 10:06:50 PM

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quote:

Thanks for the advise torward my original question. I appreciate it, though it would be nice if someone could find a tutorial, guide, or article on the subject.

I think that what Breathasone was saying is that no ":guide" written by someone who doesn't know either one of you is going to have much relevance. If your mistress were the one asking, she might get some more substantive responses, but I think most people are going to think it's a little bit backwards and overly complicated to give you advice to take back to your mistress on how to train you. Who's running the show, you or her? If it's her, then do what she tells you to do. If she's a little short on ideas (like a lot of women are when they first go through the 24/7 portal), it's probably a lot more productive and logical for her to ask for some advice. I'm sure she won't have any trouble getting people to chime in.

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Instead of arguing why you are completely wrong to defend lack of functionality and lack of effort to actually make the website accessible to all, i instead ponder why you are so against actually fixing the bugs and opening collarme to a much larger range of user base as well as easier accessibility to all of the internet.

I don't think anyone's against fixing the bugs, any more than people are against fixing potholes or or stamping out swine flu. It's just that it is what it is, and people who choose to use the site just have to live with it. It's a free site, administered by volunteers. If they don't want to rewrite the code, or don't have time, that's just the way it is. Relax, take a deep breath, and start over. The other people in this thread really aren't being as contentious as you seem to be taking it.

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 10:20:02 PM

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Again thanks for a meaningful and objective post. While I respect your opinion I however disagree with the fact that it's a free site and administered by volunteers is an excuse to suppress bugs and completely ignore them. Let me explain why. The purpose of collarme if I am not mistaken is to provide a website to allow it's users to form a friendly and open community. You are assuming that the website makes no money off it's affiliates from the members of collarme. We ARE indirectly paying for collarme.

You see, as users we actually do pay for the site to continously run. By viewing and clicking advertisements we pay for the site and the payroll of it's administrators and programmers. How do you know that collarme doesn't contract a programmer to work on it every now and then?) Regardless, as users and members of it's community we are what keeps the website running. We have a right to complain about issues that effect the community as a whole, especially such a large portion of the community.

Even if you completely forget about the fact that they should fix it for hundreds of reasons, theres no reason to suppress knowledge of the issue especially if they just acknowledged the problem and commented on it which is the proper solution. It almost sounds like a situation you would find in an office from Dilbert.

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 10:20:53 PM

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It's her responsibility to make her wishes known to you.

For example, what would happen if the manual stated that it was your duty to cook her a steak dinner, and she was a vegetarian?

And for Gosh sake, quit being so prickly. Remember, you're her responsibility now. If you piss off a whole bunch of people, it reflects poorly on her choice of a sub.

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 10:28:12 PM

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Remember that no one should ever follow a guide to full detail. They should be only used for reference and research purposes to figure out a guideline of what other people think. I am not looking for tutorials or guidelines because I want to follow them from line to line but simply out of my own curiosity for research.

I must have gave the wrong impression that I was looking for a tutorial or guide so I could follow it detail to detail. This is not the case. If anyone still has any articles written on the subject about live in slaves then I still wish to read them. I'm also researching and looking for more information. That is all.

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 10:30:53 PM

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OK Nullsub, this is what I do if I am looking at a potential 24/7 slave and used to use this with some success when training kajiri when I was part of the Gorean Lifestyle. I want a slave who is a domestic servant first of all. I.E. Service slave. That is my lifestyle with BDSM and even sex being an add on and not all that important. I used to have to hand someone who was trained as a house maid in her young days in a classic English Manor. she was able to teach the basics of duties of both a parlour maid and upstairs maid. Google will help you there. Also the slave will need to be a reasonable cook. (I will do the more classic top of the line dishes when i feel like it). Thus you need to find out what your Mistress requires of you regarding domestic duties and if you are required to cook and don't know how, then I believe there are many basic cooking schools available. Regarding BDSM and even sex, your Mistress will teach you what she wants

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 10:31:13 PM

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Afraid I have to agree with Breatheasone, IB and others. There literally is nothing out there that can tell you what your mistress and you don't already know. What do you think will make her happy? Do that. If you're not sure, she'll tell you, or you can ask. If she wanted a book, she'd just go buy a book. She wants a good sub/house boy/slave/whatever. No doubt your intentions are in the right place. Do your best, live, grow and learn every day. Experience and learning as you grow is something that no book, no matter how good, can even hold a candle to. :)

Also, congratulations to you on this. It IS a big step, for both of you. She's probably just as nervous as you are. ;) God knows when we were moving my pet in, especially when we were actually picking him up at the airport, I was so nervous I was about to piss myself, LOL. She wants to live up to your expectations, and hers, as much as you do.

EDIT: because this was actually in before/during the clarification about wanting the info more for research, rather than a solid guideline.

That makes a lot more sense. ;)

It's hard to say though. It depends on what type of household you're going into. Mine, for example, in some ways sounds a good deal like I.B.'s, but in other ways, completely back asswards. I'm sure it's the same with almost everyone else here as well. The only real guidelines are A: Please Master/Mistress. B: Always strive to do "A" better. C: Rinse. D: Repeat.

That being said, it would probably be easier and far more accurate to ask other individuals about their experiences and how their households are structured, what's expected, etc, on a one on one basis. Get clarifications, get solid answers to your questions. As opposed to books/websites that have information written there, but may not have an answer to a certain question you have, or some confusing points and no way to better understand what they are trying to say.

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/3/2009 10:49:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nullsub

Again thanks for a meaningful and objective post. While I respect your opinion I however disagree with the fact that it's a free site and administered by volunteers is an excuse to suppress bugs and completely ignore them. Let me explain why. The purpose of collarme if I am not mistaken is to provide a website to allow it's users to form a friendly and open community. You are assuming that the website makes no money off it's affiliates from the members of collarme. We ARE indirectly paying for collarme.

You see, as users we actually do pay for the site to continously run. By viewing and clicking advertisements we pay for the site and the payroll of it's administrators and programmers. How do you know that collarme doesn't contract a programmer to work on it every now and then?) Regardless, as users and members of it's community we are what keeps the website running. We have a right to complain about issues that effect the community as a whole, especially such a large portion of the community.

Even if you completely forget about the fact that they should fix it for hundreds of reasons, theres no reason to suppress knowledge of the issue especially if they just acknowledged the problem and commented on it which is the proper solution. It almost sounds like a situation you would find in an office from Dilbert.

Well, I don't know if they're suppressing it or ignoring it. I think it's just a matter of resources. They've had a lot of bugs on this site recently, and it wouldn't surprise me if every hour they're able to put in has to be spent on stuff that just keeps the site up and running. I agree the communication about miantenance issues here is very poor, and I've administered enough online forums myself to know that they're making money off the content provided by the users. But still, at the end of the day, if they choose not to discuss their technical issues, it's their call. I get to decide whether to stick around or not, and so far, I like the way they run it somewhat more than I dislike it. Right now, that's my only call.

Of course, later on - when they decide to make this a pay site - I then get to decide whether the level of customer service and communication they've demonstrated is something I want to pay money for, and at that point what's gone around is going to come around and I'll be out of here. But until then, I'll just keep taking the free ride. Take care, and good luck with that upcoming 24/7 experiment. Hope it works out beyond both of your wildest dreams.

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/4/2009 12:03:09 AM

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A great deal of patience and respect will help you not only in your 24//7 weekend, but also in your collarchat writing member experience.

Nobody objected to your idea that there should or could be things fixed by the admins, but it was your attitude that was poor.

You do not have to order somebody around here and if you keep that in mind all will be good.

(Hint: I do not used an exclamation mark.)

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/4/2009 12:15:04 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nullsub

Again thanks for a meaningful and objective post. While I respect your opinion I however disagree with the fact that it's a free site and administered by volunteers is an excuse to suppress bugs and completely ignore them. Let me explain why. The purpose of collarme if I am not mistaken is to provide a website to allow it's users to form a friendly and open community. You are assuming that the website makes no money off it's affiliates from the members of collarme. We ARE indirectly paying for collarme.

You see, as users we actually do pay for the site to continously run. By viewing and clicking advertisements we pay for the site and the payroll of it's administrators and programmers. How do you know that collarme doesn't contract a programmer to work on it every now and then?) Regardless, as users and members of it's community we are what keeps the website running. We have a right to complain about issues that effect the community as a whole, especially such a large portion of the community.

Even if you completely forget about the fact that they should fix it for hundreds of reasons, theres no reason to suppress knowledge of the issue especially if they just acknowledged the problem and commented on it which is the proper solution. It almost sounds like a situation you would find in an office from Dilbert.

Pretty clear I think. If you do not like the way the site is run, take yourself off to another one that suits you better. Nobody is forcing you to use this site.

From what I have seen of your postings, if I was your Mistress I would be highly embarrassed by the attitude you have shown on this thread. I have had 3 live in relationships so far and all have been totally different. The Master in each one required different things and expected different things from their slave. Thinking that there is a "slave manual" is naive. Ask her what SHE expects then she will get what SHE wants and not what someone else wants.

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/4/2009 1:48:02 AM

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Observes that google is the information seeker's friend. A three minute search - out of curiousity - has turned up 5 sites which give "instructions".

I'm not posting them, because after a cursory read, they're not much cop (in My humble opinion). It won't take you long if you google house slave duties tutorial and manual in various combinations. There are of course a lot of false drops. Adding bdsm to your search gets you the pay and porn sites.

I'm with the majority vote here however. It doesn't matter what Master x says on His website about duties. It's what your Mistress wants that counts. If she's short of ideas, she can do the same search, or google domestic duties, or perhaps use a checklist as a prompt for ideas.

As to the technical issues, I suspect that the vast majority of users here still have internet explorer. (That's a pure guess, backed up by no figures whatsoever) This particular user tried chrome, (also has sahara and firefox), didn't like it and is sticking with IE.

Finally, with your 24/7. good luck, do your best and ENJOY!

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/4/2009 2:06:11 AM

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http://www.extremerestraints.com/fetish-books_23/the-compleat-slave-by-jack-rinella_369.html

http://www.extremerestraints.com/fetish-books_23/the-new-bottoming-book_600.html

http://www.extremerestraints.com/fetish-books_23/the-ultimate-guide-to-cunnilingus-how-to-go-down-on-a-woman-and_872.html

Ok, the last one is slightly a joke, and I couldn't resist! I'm sure reading those AND talking to Mistress wont hurt you at all.
Good luck sweetie :)

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RE: 24/7 Live in Question - 5/4/2009 2:19:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nullsub

So, i was just curious if there was a tutorial on house slave training and duties of a house slave guide?

Try the "Ask a Mistress" forum here. Aside from that, you've had good advice above. The problem is, you appear to be incapable of accepting that what you seek may not exist, or that these quite possibly more knowlegeable people may actually have been right.

quote:

(Also, when are the CM admins going to stop trying to cover up the fact that their website won't work in google chrome, everyone knows it.. Just fix it already! )

CHROME will not essentially bring in a wider readership. It's very much a minority browser. Anyone running chrome will inevitable also have one or more of IE, Firefox, Opera, Sleipnir, Safari installed, all of which run CM juuust fine.

Given your attitude and belligerence, I thiink your Mistress should read this thread.

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