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RE: Cyber-sex Is it cheating? - 2/4/2006 1:41:34 PM   
DianeB


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Cheating or not, it's boring.

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RE: Cyber-sex Is it cheating? - 2/4/2006 1:50:21 PM   
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i agree...and, besides...i'm probably the only one here that don't see it as cheating any more than playing online games or reading online stories as cheating...

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RE: Cyber-sex Is it cheating? - 2/5/2006 1:32:05 AM   
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I will just repeat what tasha tart says as it's my thoughts on it too I will expound a little bit too, If it;s something you know your mate wouldn't like you doing, would hurt them to find out, or potentially ruin the relationship, yes cyber sex is cheating.

Unless your partner/spouse/significant other knows about it and approves, it is definitely cheating. Of course that is only my opinion; your results may vary.


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RE: Cyber-sex Is it cheating? - 2/5/2006 7:14:23 AM   
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Thank you all for your thoughts. The reson I asked is because I am now in a relationship (long Term) that is supposed to be exclusive (her & I). For the past month and a half she has been ignoring me, coming to bed when I get up to go to work, on the computer when I get home and stays there. When I try to talk to her I am almost ignored and made to feel as if I am interupting and bothering her. She clicks on to her email page every time I enter the room (but claims she has hundreds of emails to go through because she has not checked them in a long time). I then did walk in the room and suprise her and found her cyber sexing with another guy. I was so hurt and felt I was the problem. After a week or so of me fuming inside and not able to get over it, I confronted her on it and explained my feelings. She said it was just her online persona not her and any way she has a social group of friends that she likes to chat with, not cyber sex. She did not straight dennie having cyber sex, but would not admit it. She agreed to cut way back and consentrate on us and not have cyber sex, but only chat with her on line friends. 2 nights later she went to the computer for "just a bit". When I woke up she was still on it (10 hours after getting on it). She does not feel she is cheating because it it not real. I feel it is because I am hurt, ignored emotionaly and physicaly, and she is sharing her intimate thoughts and feelings with another.

I wanted to know if I was way oveer reacting or not. I thank every one for your thoughts on this. Time to confront her again. I love her and want this to work.

Thank you

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RE: Cyber-sex Is it cheating? - 2/5/2006 7:33:36 AM   
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Sounds like it's time to put your foot down and put a stop to this crap.


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Thank you all for your thoughts. The reson I asked is because I am now in a relationship (long Term) that is supposed to be exclusive (her & I). For the past month and a half she has been ignoring me, coming to bed when I get up to go to work, on the computer when I get home and stays there. When I try to talk to her I am almost ignored and made to feel as if I am interupting and bothering her. She clicks on to her email page every time I enter the room (but claims she has hundreds of emails to go through because she has not checked them in a long time). I then did walk in the room and suprise her and found her cyber sexing with another guy. I was so hurt and felt I was the problem. After a week or so of me fuming inside and not able to get over it, I confronted her on it and explained my feelings. She said it was just her online persona not her and any way she has a social group of friends that she likes to chat with, not cyber sex. She did not straight dennie having cyber sex, but would not admit it. She agreed to cut way back and consentrate on us and not have cyber sex, but only chat with her on line friends. 2 nights later she went to the computer for "just a bit". When I woke up she was still on it (10 hours after getting on it). She does not feel she is cheating because it it not real. I feel it is because I am hurt, ignored emotionaly and physicaly, and she is sharing her intimate thoughts and feelings with another.

I wanted to know if I was way oveer reacting or not. I thank every one for your thoughts on this. Time to confront her again. I love her and want this to work.

Thank you


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RE: Cyber-sex Is it cheating? - 2/5/2006 7:54:21 AM   
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quote:

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She does not feel she is cheating because it it not real. I feel it is because I am hurt, ignored emotionaly and physicaly, and she is sharing her intimate thoughts and feelings with another.

Thank you


Not real? well then she should have no problem giving it up then. but i will bet you that the orgasms she is having are very real. i would bet the emotions and feels she is having leading up to those orgasms are very real. and lastly i would bet that your hurt feelings are very real.

whats not real about that?

as long as she feels its not real there is no reason for her to stop.

she needs to realize it is in fact very real. since she hides it from you i suspect she knows its real.

good luck

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RE: Cyber-sex Is it cheating? - 2/5/2006 8:13:17 AM   
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The 2 times i've cybered with someone i had my husband sitting next to me.
We were laughing our asses off.

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RE: Cyber-sex Is it cheating? - 2/5/2006 8:38:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: seekingxtc

Thank you all for your thoughts. The reson I asked is because I am now in a relationship (long Term) that is supposed to be exclusive (her & I). For the past month and a half she has been ignoring me, coming to bed when I get up to go to work, on the computer when I get home and stays there. When I try to talk to her I am almost ignored and made to feel as if I am interupting and bothering her. She clicks on to her email page every time I enter the room (but claims she has hundreds of emails to go through because she has not checked them in a long time). I then did walk in the room and suprise her and found her cyber sexing with another guy. I was so hurt and felt I was the problem. After a week or so of me fuming inside and not able to get over it, I confronted her on it and explained my feelings. She said it was just her online persona not her and any way she has a social group of friends that she likes to chat with, not cyber sex. She did not straight dennie having cyber sex, but would not admit it. She agreed to cut way back and consentrate on us and not have cyber sex, but only chat with her on line friends. 2 nights later she went to the computer for "just a bit". When I woke up she was still on it (10 hours after getting on it). She does not feel she is cheating because it it not real. I feel it is because I am hurt, ignored emotionaly and physicaly, and she is sharing her intimate thoughts and feelings with another.

I wanted to know if I was way oveer reacting or not. I thank every one for your thoughts on this. Time to confront her again. I love her and want this to work.

Thank you


You need counseling or therapy -- both of you.

She sounds like she has an addiction and it can be very easy to get addicted to the easy fantasie we can create online via chat, email, online games, etc.

However, regardless of what she is doing YOU are not getting what you want out of your relationship. That is why you both need therapy. She is clearly not listening to you or she is unable or unwilling to try and address her behavior.

Therapy may bring up a lot of negative issues on both sides though so be forewarned. It will not be a "go once and its fixed" situation.

And don't go to just any therapist. Schedule some "interviews" with several and go talk to them by yourself or with your partner. Yes, you'll have to pay for the interview but it will help you greatly in deciding which therapist to chose.

If your partner won't go with you.... then I'm afraid you have your answer to the problem.

I know many folks are scared of therapist or think its a scam. I think each individual is important enough though to get the help they need and a good therapist can help a lot.


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RE: Cyber-sex Is it cheating? - 2/5/2006 9:25:12 AM   
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It online cybering cheating? undyably yes. The commitment was made to your spouse or partner, so how could it not be cheating. But then I think swinging is cheating, if only because I'm not a swinger.

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RE: Cyber-sex Is it cheating? - 2/5/2006 11:19:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelGA
i agree...and, besides...i'm probably the only one here that don't see it as cheating any more than playing online games or reading online stories as cheating...


My question to you would be ... how many folks out there would *hide* playing an online game or reading online stories from their partner?

I rather doubt many would - unless they were things that they felt their partner would be upset with them for doing.

Like perhaps reading online stories revolving having sex with dead people - I could see that being something they'd hide, and if they are engaging in that - then perhaps it wouldn't be cheating as much as lying about who they are and what gets them off. But then again, hiding who you are IS cheating the other person by robbing them of knowing WHO they are really with, no?

But really I'd say that your examples are comparing apples and oranges. Reading online stories and playing online games wouldn't be the same as cyber-sex.

Now if they were addicted to them and their real lives are crumbling away because all their time and attention is focused online. Then they are just cheating their partner out of an involved and invested partner that is actively engaged in their relationship and life. Not quite the same as cheating with another person, but the end result is still somewhat the same.

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RE: Cyber-sex Is it cheating? - 2/5/2006 11:36:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: seekingxtc

Thank you all for your thoughts. The reson I asked is because I am now in a relationship (long Term) that is supposed to be exclusive (her & I). For the past month and a half she has been ignoring me, coming to bed when I get up to go to work, on the computer when I get home and stays there. When I try to talk to her I am almost ignored and made to feel as if I am interupting and bothering her. She clicks on to her email page every time I enter the room (but claims she has hundreds of emails to go through because she has not checked them in a long time). I then did walk in the room and suprise her and found her cyber sexing with another guy. I was so hurt and felt I was the problem. After a week or so of me fuming inside and not able to get over it, I confronted her on it and explained my feelings. She said it was just her online persona not her and any way she has a social group of friends that she likes to chat with, not cyber sex. She did not straight dennie having cyber sex, but would not admit it. She agreed to cut way back and consentrate on us and not have cyber sex, but only chat with her on line friends. 2 nights later she went to the computer for "just a bit". When I woke up she was still on it (10 hours after getting on it). She does not feel she is cheating because it it not real. I feel it is because I am hurt, ignored emotionaly and physicaly, and she is sharing her intimate thoughts and feelings with another.

I wanted to know if I was way oveer reacting or not. I thank every one for your thoughts on this. Time to confront her again. I love her and want this to work.

Thank you


I'd agree with needing the therapy.

And I would say you are NOT overreacting.

I've been there, done that.

Give them an ultimatium, YOU or their cybering that you know they are trying to hide from you and lie to you about. Tell her how it feels, ask her how SHE would feel if the roles were reversed. Tell her you are worth more than that (and you ARE) and that you deserve and want a partner that is fully vested - emotionally, physicially, spiritually, and TIME-wise in your relationship (because you DO deserve that). Tell her if she wants it BAD enough to lie to you and hide it from you then perhaps she should be HONEST about it for once and maybe that's where she should go, for really, if she and you aren't working together, maybe you do need to go your own ways.

More importantly - if YOU feel it is cheating, then TELL her that. If she responds with her opinion that it isn't - fine. Accept that. And tell her, okay I understand that for YOU it doesn't seem that way, but to ME it does, and if you continue to do it AFTER you KNOW how it feels to me, whether openly or behind my back realize that you are then choosing to HURT me as if you were actually having real sex with someone else. And that I will need to make a decision about someone that would do that to me knowing fully how much it would affect me and hurt me. Realize this might be a compatablity issue too - if her definition of cheating doesn't match yours and she can't respect yours to choose to not hurt you - it is likely this is something that will happen again - it's one of those definitions that most folks don't check for matching that REALLY can make or break a relationship later on down the road

And if they are willing to work on it and take therpay with you, GREAT. IF they actually WORK on it. You can only meet folks half-way hon. They HAVE to be willing to come half-way and meet you. If they don't - there is just nothing you can do, as painful as that realization might be.

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It hurts a lot, and from someone that's been there - the lie hurts more than anything else - even the rationalization. Know that you aren't alone.

And also recognize this is fully a two way street. If she feels she has to hide who she is, then she isn't in a great relationship for HER either. Sometimes you have to be the person that makes the hard choice to better your and her life on down the road. And it can be a very hard choice.

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