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RE: PTSD's Infantile/Childish Behavior = Infantilism fe... - 5/13/2009 8:22:26 AM   
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Sounds a bit like aspergers to me.... not completely but aspects of it

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RE: PTSD's Infantile/Childish Behavior = Infantilism fe... - 5/15/2009 8:39:34 AM   
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I'm certainly no doctor, but I did spend the last five years of my life studying psychology - I can't say for sure from just reading your description, but as suggested above it seems likely that your boy is having issues with PTSD, some sort of Developmental Disorder (such as Asperger's, but more likely PDD-NOS), or a combination of the two. 

I'd definitely recommend that he meet with a counselor of some sort, preferably bilingual and preferably trained in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. 


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RE: PTSD's Infantile/Childish Behavior = Infantilism fe... - 5/15/2009 4:36:47 PM   
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withdraw and socially issolate himself.
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He seems to display a high need for female approval, and he's very "naive". I thought he was acting, and he's surely very well informed of things, but it's like he doesn't get it. He's sweet and almost an alien to customs and thinsg we take as normal in our everyday life, in a Forrest Gump sort of way, surprised, disgusted and very weirded out at some behaviors we consider normal and I am wondering if maybe PTSD may be the cause.



I have served someone who has been diagnosed as having Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, he never displayed the behaviour that you have outlined above.  Mostly he would have recurrent nightmares resulting in him not getting a decent sleep most nights, flashbacks and he would completely withdraw and socially issolate himself.  During this time i did a bit of reseach into PTSD to try and understand for myself what was happening.  I believe they can also become very aggressive and argumentative, the reason why my Master chose to withdraw so as not to inflict that on anybody.

Im not sure if PTSD can result in clingy/needy behaviour but from what i have read it appears not to.

It might be helpful if you could give more information into the behaviour he displays when you say he acts like Forrest Gump, have you considered one of the autistic spectrum disorders which could result in such behaviours? 


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As you can see, 'childish behaviour' is of particular interest to me, but briefly, I dont feel that I could even consider a person who feels he/she needs to withdraw and socially isolate themself could  be suffering some sort of disorder without additional evidence, and if they are demonstrating or displaying any affection to another person, that in itself is a socially giving act, and therefore quite the opposite of emotional isolation. A lot of submissive men, when they are feeling close to their Mistress, will regress to a time they felt close to a mother or other caregiver, I've found a lot of vanilla men can become very passive when they are feeling love or loved.. and this isnt just in my personal experience!

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RE: PTSD's Infantile/Childish Behavior = Infantilism fe... - 5/15/2009 6:12:17 PM   
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I think the Asperger's idea is right. Something in him is somewhat off...alien, distant, not in a bad way, but more liek he landed from a distant planet and culture in some items, like men i met who were living in japan back in my college years when my Dad and I visited my brother in okinawa. it's odd to him to see porn, the playboy channel, and such.

Perhaps the problem isn't PTSD. My husband says that in spite of the horrors of hsi country's war, they are not ashaed of the things they do, given the nature of the fighting, he says, and I am hoping someone explains this to me, that theirs are "dog-soldier" type of units, and that the kind of infighting up-front and full-fledged all-hell-broke-loose trenchfighting methods make soldiers become like pit dogs on a dogfight. he says it's an all-out ferocity way that drowns any guilt or hesitation.

He's a well known member here, and surely I like him, but I somehow got to worry about the sub and it's perhaps my Motherly instinct that he somehow brings out.

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RE: PTSD's Infantile/Childish Behavior = Infantilism fe... - 5/16/2009 4:38:43 AM   
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Im not sure if PTSD can result in clingy/needy behaviour but from what i have read it appears not to.



I'm not a doctor or a counselor just a mother of an adult son who suffers from PTSD. He has served twice in Iraq. This last deployment he had a different job and was in life threatening situations on a continual basis.  He came back from the last deployment being clingy and needy to me and the rest of our family. He doesn't exhibit many of the other classic PTSD symptoms on the surface (some are there if you look for it) and the clinginess/neediness has been slowly getting a bit better. He is a very macho military man and this seems to be the accepted way he is more or less allowing his illness to manifest when he is among those he trusts.


I hope that your son and family are getting the support that you all need.  Living with the experience of PTSD is not an easy one, one of the most fruistraiting things here in the UK is that the MOD offer little or no support  to those that suffer prefering to shove it under the carpet and ignore it while it continues to wreak peoples lives, the individual and their families.

I have another firiend who is still serving in the forces, and its at the stage for him now that he can barely function while in civilian life and only functions normally while he is on high alert i guess, while he is in the thick of it.

Its high time that our Goverments took heed of this tragic consequence of sending our young men into battle.... they risk their lives fighting for our countries, and the alleged freedom of others, and then when they need their countries support it turns its back on them... whoops that turned into a bit of a rant there.... but its something that im very passionate about having experienced the consequences of PTSD first hand.

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RE: PTSD's Infantile/Childish Behavior = Infantilism fe... - 5/19/2009 2:15:34 PM   
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Im not sure if PTSD can result in clingy/needy behaviour but from what i have read it appears not to.



I'm not a doctor or a counselor just a mother of an adult son who suffers from PTSD. He has served twice in Iraq. This last deployment he had a different job and was in life threatening situations on a continual basis.  He came back from the last deployment being clingy and needy to me and the rest of our family. He doesn't exhibit many of the other classic PTSD symptoms on the surface (some are there if you look for it) and the clinginess/neediness has been slowly getting a bit better. He is a very macho military man and this seems to be the accepted way he is more or less allowing his illness to manifest when he is among those he trusts.


I hope that your son and family are getting the support that you all need.  Living with the experience of PTSD is not an easy one, one of the most fruistraiting things here in the UK is that the MOD offer little or no support  to those that suffer prefering to shove it under the carpet and ignore it while it continues to wreak peoples lives, the individual and their families.

I have another firiend who is still serving in the forces, and its at the stage for him now that he can barely function while in civilian life and only functions normally while he is on high alert i guess, while he is in the thick of it.

Its high time that our Goverments took heed of this tragic consequence of sending our young men into battle.... they risk their lives fighting for our countries, and the alleged freedom of others, and then when they need their countries support it turns its back on them... whoops that turned into a bit of a rant there.... but its something that im very passionate about having experienced the consequences of PTSD first hand.


I wholeheartedly agree.....

My husband is a good man, and he is as loving as you could ever meet, but he normally shows a fasce to the world like he's a regular Mr Spock or some sort of cold, calm and collected person, even though outside his officee and job and in a comfy environment, he's very loving but silent. And he's always on edge....he walks out of bed 3 times in the night, and checks the house as if he was some sort of cop in a movie, entering a dark room where someone is waiting to gun him down, and I once recall seeing him at the beginning, checking out the windows...it gave me the creeps thinking somebody might be out trying to break in...and then i got creeped out more that he was so cool about the idea.

He used to jump off the bed after mumbling things in spanish and he was the same as a frightened cat, msucles taunt as wire, ready to move as fast as lightning until he finally woke up fully and saw he was in his bedroom. It did scare me and it motivated me to try and help him open up but well, thankfully coming to this site and some headbutting too, made me seek professional help that could work with me to get him out of it, although after hearing him explain things under suggestion by the therapist, a wonderful vet office's psychologist, I had nightmares for a long while, still do....

We send men to war, and you can bring the man from the battelfield but he bring war within himself....




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