FirmhandKY
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It has always amazed me how Monday morning quarterbacks are so darn smart, and that their adrenaline would never have pumped, and how everything would have been crystal clear if they had been in such a life or death situation.
So many Clint Eastwoods out there .... 
Yes I deserved that...lol
But I am truly thinking about the situation... and that is why it does not make sense. Look at it this way... The victims had no forethought but the crooks did. If they were going to kill everyone they would not separate...or they would tie them up or make them get on the floor. And if I were the crook I would not try to shoot all of the men when they were free and that close to me.
Now you are right...would I think of all this at the time... Maybe not but I know if I had the gun and the drop on the crook I would first try to get him to drop his weapon... then shoot if I had too... and I would not miss from that range.
And you can't tell me the guy in the room with the girls was getting ready to rape after the shots in the other room. I think... and I have just as much right as anyone... that the kid was not trained with a weapon... he was shooting wildly and was more of a danger than the crook...and a little girl with two bullets in her proves it.
How many times have we read of people shot by accident during gun battles... more times than mass murders during robberies. That kid with a gun... even though I understand... was lucky he didn't get the girl killed and someone else in another apartment.
I've nothing against guns... but people need to get training not only in how to shoot but when to shoot.
Butch,
Several comments.
I do believe that you are trying to think through the situation and using critical thinking skills about the entire event.
I do agree that everyone (everyone) should receive training on the use of firearms, preferably as pre-teens, with refreshers throughout their lifetime, and a test prior to the issuance of their mandatory concealed carry permit.
As far as the actual events that we do know:
Any negative outcome (such as the girl getting shot) would solely be the responsibility of the individuals who chose to violate the law, and conduct a home invasion with weapons. All actions flowed from their illegal decision, even if it was the "hero" who actually shot the girl (which is in question).
It is not the duty nor responsibility (for the most part, in many places) for the innocent people who are being held at gunpoint to try to reason with, or give any sort of benefit of the doubt to the assailants. The safest, and best thing for them to assume is that they will be murdered, and take appropriate action.
As I mentioned (and you acknowledged) when the shit hits the fan, and you are in such a life or death situation, you have precious little time to think (therefore good training is always preferred), and precious little room to be wrong. Some people freeze. Some people panic. Some people take incorrect, or less than optimum actions. Some people do the exact right thing, at exactly the right time, in exactly the right order ... and get killed.
Some people take action, and muddle through, and survive.
You, I believe, are "over-analyzing" the situation, without considering the haze of stress, fear and uncertainty.
The "hero" in question took action. The actions prevented the possiblities of rape and death for 10 people, at the cost of one of the 10 injuried, and one of the assailants dead.
This is a fine outcome, and makes the man who took action - even if some do not believe it was "perfect" - a hero.
Bravo.
Firm
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