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Real0ne -> Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/6/2006 10:51:40 PM)

i posted this in another thread and a moderator felt that a persons mail control settings should remain private. i cant see any reason why they would want to do that.

Here is my case and i feel that mail control settings of each persons profile should be displayed on that profile to the people who view it so we can see if we are within their parameters of acceptable mail.

i would very much like to hear opinions from everyone if this should continue to be kept private or made public.

i cant imagine why anyone would want to keep such a thing secret and it would save countless hours of writers time.

problem is a 50year woman sets her mail controls for the ages of 20 - 30, because she is looking for a young guy but fails to mention it on her profile.

Now an unsuspecting person comes along to write this profile thinking he is 45, and with no ages listed on the profile has no reason NOT to write to this person, so he writes to the profile.

2 months later looks into his sent mail to discover it was never read because it went to the garbage can of the person he wrote to.

Many dommes on here have their mail controls set and do not indicate what those controls are set at in their profile.

NO one responds to one liners so you are forced to write many sentences and that takes your time.

i am not a mind reader and i doubt you are either, and if it is not listed on the profile there is NO way to know until weeks or months later and you see that you wrote a perfectly legitimate email that was never even opened or read because it went straight into the garbage, NO fault of your own!!

my suggestion which has gone unheeded since i have been on here is to show what the mail controls are set at on thier profile so i can see it when i bring it up so if i am not with in age distance or whatever other settings are on there i can save my time and NOT write to them.

Because i am not a mind reader, i have written countless letters that went into the garbage that is nicely named bulk mail that no one looks at, so its the garbage bin regardless of the cute name and originally well intended purpose and as a result is a huge waste of time and resources.

i doubt many people on here aware this is the case and why some or many of their emails are not even being opened! Emails that you never would have written if the control settings were displayed on each profile.





RavenMuse -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/6/2006 11:36:38 PM)

It is definatly irritating. I've a couple of mails out at the moment that I think may have fallen foul of just this problem. You are informed when you go to send something to someone who has blocked you, so why not do the same with the bulk mail?

I don't mind the time taken over the initial mail, what gets me is the wondering, not knowing if they are simply swamped with mail, short on time... or if they haven't seen it because it is in their bulk mail.

I haven't heard any arguments in favour of keeping those settings private.... anyone?




veronicaofML -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 12:08:25 AM)

so uh..YOUR issue is?
age?
uh
unanswered mails?

i am unsure what you are talking about...EXACTLY........?

i know "I" have sent out many mails, unanswered.
i chalk it up to someone missing out on something...
i call it ignorance.
especially since "I" only send out to those asking FOR service...and yet they didnt reply.
ah well.
not my fault if they are too stupid.
i figure i wouldnt want to be around someone like that anyway.
what the hell?

i WAS..and AM fortunate that MY Ms contacted ME first on here.


hey!


take heart.
it CAN happen for ya...k?

take care
be well




collieloveruk -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 3:55:13 AM)

yeah i would love to have my preferences for mail on view, could we have some extra categories for instance complete a**holes really need not apply lol collie xx




FTopinMichigan -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 4:14:50 AM)

I can understand the frustration attached to writing an e-mail, only to have it sent to the trash, but I have to say, that when my profile was VERY specific to certain things, it didn't matter, as those responding didn't bother to read AND comprehend the profile. If they didn't comprehend the profile, they surely aren't going to read and comprehend (or comply with) your preference settings either. It would be a futile move that would probably take effort on the part of CM programmers, for no tangible result. The outcome would remain the same. Some people don't want to be bothered with tons of e-mail. I'd say it would be better not to get hung up nonresponses.
K




RavenMuse -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 4:52:38 AM)

In what way would it be a futile move? If you have your mail controls set a certain way then displaying those setting won't alter the fact that those outside of your preferences will still land in bulk mail. It is for the benifit of those who do have a brain and actualy read a profile before responding to avoid them wasting their time or wondering why the heck yet another mail has gone unopened.

I don't much bother when someone opens the mail and then doesn't respond as I just assume no interest on their part, but unopened.... leaves just too many questions hanging. I don't use the scattergun approach (aim at everything and see what you hit) those very few I have sent out are ones where according to their profile we are looking for compatable things. If I knew my mail was bulkmailed then at least I'd know that we weren't as compatable as the profile seemed to indicate.

Personaly I don't have the mail controls turned on given I chat occassionaly to folks from the forums here. But I can see from what I've heard of the volume of unwanted mails that you ladys get why you'd need to.

That lil' bit of info wouldn't make any diffrence to the recipient, wouldn't make much diffrence to the muppets who don't read anything, but it would make it a bit easier on those of us with a brain who are seriously trying to find someone compatable.




MstrssPassion -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 5:41:54 AM)

The mail doesn't necessarily go to a garbage can.... it goes to a bulk mail folder.

I occasionally check this bulk mail folder & will reply if the mail is interesting.

I have set my filter to weed out out of country emails.

I have also set the filter for under 21 since it would seem every 18-20 y/o on this site contacts me within days of opening their account.

If it should be known, my filter setting... no problem here. People don't read profiles most times, what difference would it make if my settings are revealed.


I would take an unopened/unanswered email as a sign that there was no interest. Sure it is a pain in the ass to type out a lengthy email & have it unopened or unanswered, but such is life. Anything worth having is worth putting forth an effort to obtain. Anything easily obtained is often unappreciated.




cloudboy -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 6:06:26 AM)


What's funny is how the "email issues" are completely different for each sex. For instance, no guy has to worry about setting his "mail controls" correctly, he just has to worry about if he'll get any mail at all!!!




Oumae -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 6:11:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


What's funny is how the "email issues" are completely different for each sex. For instance, no guy has to worry about setting his "mail controls" correctly, he just has to worry about if he'll get any mail at all!!!


Lol, maybe in larger countries people have more of an issue with too many mails but I have no mail controll settings in use here and usually manage to answer every mail I get unless they are rude.
I definitely wouldn't want to block mail from subs over 30.... I wish there were more over 40 here in Ireland!

Oumae




RavenMuse -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 6:19:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


What's funny is how the "email issues" are completely different for each sex. For instance, no guy has to worry about setting his "mail controls" correctly, he just has to worry about if he'll get any mail at all!!!


From what I've heard I maybe a very popular guy... I've had two mails looking to make contact so far. Oh the pressure![:D] Of course neither where in any way suitable but hey... Mr popular here![;)]

Not counting all the mails where I've been chatting to folks from here off the board of course[:)]

I'm not complaining about them having the controls set, good grief no, with the volume of mails some of them get it would be a necessity. But where the settings rule out something not covered in the profile then you are left wondering why the mail hasn't been opened. Swamped with other mail? Not seen it because it is in bulk mail?

I take time making sure I'm only contacting people who seem to be reasonably compatable, but if something is ruleing me out that they haven't stated.... I'm good, but I'm not a mind reader. If it has been opened and ignored, fair enough then they obviously saw nothing they where interested in, but not even opened.... Just leaves you wondering???????




Arpig -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 6:19:22 AM)

When you send an email, the system informs you when and if the message was read...if it isn't read, then you can probably assume that the recipient has either just deleted it withut opening it, or that it has gone to their bulk mail folder...either way a pretty safe assumption that you do not meet their criteria one way or another. Personally I haven't bothered to set my bulk-mail controls, but if I had, what business is it of anybody else how I set them?

Get over it guys, its not really all that big a deal to fire off an email to introduce oneself is it? it takes, what, 10, maybe 20 minutes to write? and if you have been writing so many that it really is such an issue, by now i would think you have a portfolio of pretty good boilerplates to choose from...pick the general message, spend 5-10 minutes tweaking it to suit the reciepient's percieved likes/desires, and voila, a well thought-out and carefully crafted personal message, all in less time than it takes to jerk-off.

Like MstrssPassion says, anything worth having is worth putting a little effort into getting. I spoke to my Pet daily for several months before I started wooing her, and that process continued for many months as well, all-in-all roughly a year spent getting to know eachother...time well spent.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 6:23:51 AM)

It's no one else's business what my mail settings are.

If you can't deal with the reality of spending some extra time emailing and learning how to work the system to your advantage, maybe having a relationship isn't your biggest worry.

It's not my job to make it easy for you. It's not your business to know what mail I like unless I choose to make it so.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 7:33:36 AM)

quote:

i posted this in another thread and a moderator felt that a persons mail control settings should remain private. i cant see any reason why they would want to do that.
I agree that my mail controls should remain my business, although I noticed a new update today showing the blocked list which I was completely missing before.
Thanks collarme! M




siamsa24 -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 7:44:45 AM)

The reason that it should remain private is because most people wouldn't bother to read it anyway. I clearly state that I am happily taken in my profile, yet I still get mail saying that I would make a good slave for MasterOfTheUniverseInHisOwnBrain (totally ignoring the fact that I have a relationship and that I am not a slave, of course)

I have my bulk settings on, only because I hate wasting my time reading stupid emails from people who don't want to get to know me, but only want to get into my pants (or skirt).
So are you saying that your time is more important than mine? I think I would have to disagree with you there.




RavenMuse -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 7:55:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: siamsa24

The reason that it should remain private is because most people wouldn't bother to read it anyway. I clearly state that I am happily taken in my profile, yet I still get mail saying that I would make a good slave for MasterOfTheUniverseInHisOwnBrain (totally ignoring the fact that I have a relationship and that I am not a slave, of course)

I have my bulk settings on, only because I hate wasting my time reading stupid emails from people who don't want to get to know me, but only want to get into my pants (or skirt).
So are you saying that your time is more important than mine? I think I would have to disagree with you there.


That doesn't make any sense what so ever.

In what way would the limits of your mail settings being known change the mail you recieve? It wouldn't, mail outside of those settings would still be directed to bulk mail.

The only thing that would change is that those people who DO actualy read profiles and take notice of them would know not to send a mail because it would not only be unwelcome, but also unread and in the bulk mail folder rather than recieved mail.

The only argument I am seeing here is "Status Quo" and "I can't be bothered thinking it through". Such a suggestion would change nothing for the recipient but would remove the question of if something unmentioned in the profile would rule you out when you are considering contacting the person.

It is a small thing (Unless it would be complicated to program into the sites script) and has a small but valid argument for it and so far no coherent counter-argument.

No-one is making any demands or making a huge fuss, it is simply a suggestion for a possible change for the site if and when possible.




OscarHargraves -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 7:56:15 AM)

I agree with you here. It IS frustrating and there is no sense in it.

I also disagree with LuckyA on this one. People who post a profile and want to be contacted SHOULD make it easy for someone to contact them. This isn't supposed to be a game of 'Guess How to Reach Me'. Of course women get a LOT more e-mails than men do so they don't care if some guys write twenty letters only to have them sent to the 'bulk' folder; it's not frustrating to them. And, like a lot people today, I never look at my 'Bulk' mailbox. I simply delete it and go on. I have a limited amount of time to spend on this computer and I don't waste it on perusing the bulk mail folder.

Maybe to start with we could get the nice folks at CM to allow each person the OPTION to make their mail control settings public or private? Then post them on that person's profile or just say 'private'.




siamsa24 -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 8:08:55 AM)

I think that it makes sense before I've had my morning tea. [:D]


What I am trying to say is why clutter up the profile with yet another thing that will be ignored?

I suppose one or two people would read it, but it wouldn't change 90% of the email that most people recieve.
I mean, if it's easy to do and they want to then I won't fight it, it won't make any difference to me. But, personally, I think that it's a waste of time.

I eventually read all my emails, but I do set priorities in the order that I read them.


Do you give up looking for a boyfriend or girlfriend after one or two dates because they go badly because it's a waste of time? Or (as it was mentioned before) stop looking for a job because you don't get a reply from every company that you apply to?
I mean, yes, it can be frustrating, but no more frustrating then trying to write to someone on your admirers list and finding that they have blocked you. We all have our gripes.




Aileen68 -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 8:20:10 AM)

Oh please. Just face the fact that whoever you wrote to isn't interested.
Next you'll start a thread on the evil subs who open up and read you mail , but don't respond.
Get over it.
No one said this would be easy.




RavenMuse -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 8:27:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: siamsa24
but no more frustrating then trying to write to someone on your admirers list and finding that they have blocked you. We all have our gripes.


You see that is a point where we differ.

Like I say above, if someone has opened the mail and doesn't reply I can assume there is no interest, I shrug and move on.
If I go to respond and find I am blocked (Which has happened once, I can only assume she has had bad experiences with folks who take being told "Thanks but no thanks" badly in the past and my "Hope it works out for you, good luck" mail was what I found was blocked) but again I know there is no interest and move on.

Where I am unsure as to wether it is just a case of the mail being lost in amongst some vast swathe of unread mail or wether it is sat in bulk mail with no chance of being read because unbeknown to me I am not what the young lady is looking for, I am left wondering IF there is any potential there or not.

Not that it stops me looking elsewhere for other people with whom it looks like there is some compatability, but not knowing does leave the question hanging there at the back of the mind. And as one of those who does read and take notice of a profile, maybe a minority, but it is worth at least backing such a suggestion and seeing if it is something that could indeed be implimented.[:)]




IceyOne -> RE: Many Emails Never Get Read!!!! Here is why! (2/7/2006 8:50:56 AM)

quote:

Here is my case and i feel that mail control settings of each persons profile should be displayed on that profile to the people who view it so we can see if we are within their parameters of acceptable mail.


I have to ask why? If you read a persons profile, and pay attention to what it is that they have written...that alone should tell you if you are within their parameters of acceptable mail. If someone states in their profile that they only want local, or a certan age, or a male or female...or even both...etc...if you see this, why would you need to know that they are not reading ones that fall out of those parameters? Sounds more like you are just too lazy to read the profile.

quote:

Many dommes on here have their mail controls set and do not indicate what those controls are set at in their profile.


And why should this be a problem for you? What business is it of yours how someone sets their email settings?

quote:

NO one responds to one liners so you are forced to write many sentences and that takes your time.


Are you illiterate? Incapable of writing something intelligent? Dyslexic (sp) ?

Sounds to me that you are just too lazy to want to take the time to read the profiles and find the answers that you are looking for. It also sounds to me that you obviously think your time here is a waste. And yet. You still remain?




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