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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

This debate is not about restricting your freedom to choose how you set your mail controls.

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like bita truble who would rather keep their options open at the expece of a bit of wasted effort from other people? Nope

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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like bita truble who would rather keep their options open at the expece of a bit of wasted effort from other people? Nope

Just to clarify. The examples given were hypothetical in nature. I don't have my mail controls set. :) I don't care who emails me. I have fun with the trolls, and don't want to block out potential friends or people who may want to write me from the forums.

Celeste

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist
But you are missing the one single point that EVERYONE has tried to impose upon you here.
EVEN IF your suggestions are taken into practice, it is not going to matter at all

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist
So and so saw your letter in their mailbox, read your profile, and for reasons OF THEIR OWN, decided that you were not compatible. So, they either deleted, or moved your name to the bulk mail bin, without ever reading it.

You are right back at square one. Faced with the fact that for reasons of their own, people do not read some mail, but they do read others.

Ok lets start here. Is this the focus of what you feel everyone is trying to impose on me?

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Ok good point, let me clarify it.


This debate is not about restricting your freedom to choose how you set your mail controls.

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Hypotheticals because I don't set my mail to send to bulk.

Today, I want to weed out anyone who's over 50. All those emails go to my bulk mail and no one knows it and I'm not telling them, because tomorrow I may think 50 looks pretty damn good, so I skip over to my bulk and start reading those emails. Rather than discourage them by telling them to just go away in my profile, I want to keep the options open for myself. If I took to long and they've been snatched up, my bad. I took the risk and paid the price for my delay.

Today I want to weed out anyone not local to my area, but I don't want them to know because there's a rumor going on that my company may be moving pretty soon and I want to keep my options open. Sure enough, my company moves, I'm transferred to a new state and voila, I have bulk mail to skip over to and see if there's anyone writing from the new area. If I took to long and they've been snatched up, my bad. I took the risk and paid the price for my delay.

Today I want to weed out men, but I don't want them to know because I'm just starting to explore my bisexual side with woman and it may turn out that it's not for me. Sure enough, women pretty much suck, I'm going back to guys. Skip over.. yadda, yadda.

The debate is 'all' about preferences. Your contention is that you didn't get any valid arguments as to 'why' they shouldn't be displayed.

Well, there's one for you. It's about someone keeping their options open and you want to take that away so lifes a bit easier on you. R1, speaking only for myself as a sadist, I'd just as soon make it hurt as much as possible. :)

Carry on. ::skips back to watch the rerun of Project Runway::

Celeste

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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This debate is about "ALL" the preferences being displayed on the profile.

Hypotheticals because I don't set my mail to send to bulk.

Today, I want to weed out anyone who's over 50. All those emails go to my bulk mail and no one knows it and I'm not telling them, because tomorrow I may think 50 looks pretty damn good, so I skip over to my bulk and start reading those emails. Rather than discourage them by telling them to just go away in my profile, I want to keep the options open for myself. If I took to long and they've been snatched up, my bad. I took the risk and paid the price for my delay.

Today I want to weed out anyone not local to my area, but I don't want them to know because there's a rumor going on that my company may be moving pretty soon and I want to keep my options open. Sure enough, my company moves, I'm transferred to a new state and voila, I have bulk mail to skip over to and see if there's anyone writing from the new area. If I took to long and they've been snatched up, my bad. I took the risk and paid the price for my delay.

Today I want to weed out men, but I don't want them to know because I'm just starting to explore my bisexual side with woman and it may turn out that it's not for me. Sure enough, women pretty much suck, I'm going back to guys. Skip over.. yadda, yadda.

The debate is 'all' about preferences. Your contention is that you didn't get any valid arguments as to 'why' they shouldn't be displayed.

Well, there's one for you. It's about someone keeping their options open and you want to take that away so lifes a bit easier on you. R1, speaking only for myself as a sadist, I'd just as soon make it hurt as much as possible. :)

Carry on. ::skips back to watch the rerun of Project Runway::

Celeste

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist
But you are missing the one single point that EVERYONE has tried to impose upon you here.
EVEN IF your suggestions are taken into practice, it is not going to matter at all

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist
So and so saw your letter in their mailbox,

1)read your profile, and for reasons OF THEIR OWN,
2)decided that you were not compatible.
3)So, they either deleted, or moved your name to the bulk mail bin,
4)without ever reading it.

5)You are right back at square one. Faced with the fact that for reasons of their own, people do not read some mail, but they do read others.

Ok lets start here. Is this the focus of what you feel everyone is trying to impose on me?

Yes. Included with the fact that with this being a possibility anyway, even if mail controls are set so that others could see them...this would still be a factor that has to be considered before making changes such as you are suggesting. Why should the web developers here WASTE THEIR TIME doing something like this when the possibility is there that IT WILL NOT MAKE ONE BIT OF DIFFERENCE in the outcome?


Ok, then we are back at one of the first arguments presented to you. PRIVACY. The right to privacy. Everyone has the right to not want their preferences shown, to keep them private.


Celeste gives a wonderful hypothetical here about how people like to keep their options open in certain areas.

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So this is how it would work in your hypothetical.

Ok so today you prefer under 50.
so you set your mail controls for min=25 max=50.

i sign in. click on your profile. right under {Actively Seeking:} it says:
Age 25 - 50

i see this and say kool! i am 50 so i will write.
the next guy reads it, being 24 he does not write.

If tommorrow you feel 50 looks good,
you only want local,
they must have a profile then:

i sign in. click on your profile.

right under {Actively Seeking:} it says:
Age 25 - 52
Local only
Profile Rqd

add the sex variant:
Males, females, couples.

subtract males variant:
Females, Couples.

or any combination you wish.

Then like your actively seeking it would change what is displayed every time you change your mind.

No system can work in a manner that provides you with having things both ways at once and still be honest.

you want to see your bi side but do not want men to know just has that dishonest ring to it.

as far as the rest of your concerns like company moving, or even including the bi thing etc. well this is not meant to resolve those kinds of things nor is it intended to cover every possible contingency. No system can. you would need to address those kinds of things in your profile.

On the other hand, doing it they way i am suggesting gives you the option to change your mind at will and as often as you wish, LISTEN UP ADMINS! LOL!

without having to change your profile saving the admins hours of profile appoving.

It would very much improve the ease of use for certain sectors of people and help reduce the mystery and/or unintentional errors.

i have a very good friend on here who has her controls set to an age different than she states on her profile. why? "because it takes them to long to update it"! thats a quote!

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Sorry RealOne, but despite your refusal to see it, your arguement has been rebutted, repeatedly.
Many of us have a PREFERENCE to not reveal our mail filter settings.
I am under no obligation to check off anything in the questionaires, or to enter anything in the descriptive part of the profile, or to check off any of the "actively seeking" checkboxes, so why should I be obligated to tell you how I filter MY mail.
The rebuttal to your whole point IS that it is my business, and mine alone, how I set my email filters.
That's all there is to it....it really doesn't matter how inconvenient it may make things for you, me, or anybody else.

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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa
Oh my fucking gawwwd. Will you never shut up? DO THIS: Go learn HTML, create your own community, call it something like qyb.com (Quit Your Bitching) and do all the arranging of the furniture you want to. But so long as you are in THIS house and it has opened it's doors for you to VISIT, then get your feet off the coffee table and stop complaining about the toilet that you have to jiggle the freakin handle to make stop running! You have alot of nerve coming to a FREE site and bitching about how it is run. I have basically ignored you, but Jesus you are on every thread, bitching about something or another. Yes I have the option of putting you on ignore, but then I cant figure out what the others are talking about when they are saying the same thing I am saying now.

Is your life so empty that you have NOTHING better to do but to sit here and bitch about shit you dont have control over? IT IS A FREE SITE man, get it? NO ADS here. NO POP-UPS. NOTHING. Go to alt.com and bitch about how you cant even check your stupid email without pop ups all over the place, and you PAY for that freaking site.

Gawwwd..<looks around for a stiff drink>

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ORIGINAL: michaelGA

how long is this gonna continue?

only the Shadow knows...LOL

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It is those of you who cannot see the forest despite your face that turn what is intended to be a very short versed constructive critisism into a 50 page bitch session.

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

MistressOfGa...I am very impressed


Yes, round and round and round we go. Obviously RealOne feels he has a valid point, and yet, I see nothing in his posts to validate such a thing ever happening. He fails to look beyond his own pitiful whining to the fact that

A) this is a FREE SITE. YOU are putting NO MONEY into its upkeep and running, so therefore, YOU HAVE NO SAY in how it is run or programmed to run.
B) YOU ARE NOT part of the ADMIN team, so therefore, you have no say in how this FREE site is run, or in how it should be programmed to run.
C) because this is a free site, you have the right to make suggestions, but nothing else. If your suggestions go unheeded, then you should realize that they are unrealistic to the majority.
D) this forum and site is NOT A DEMOCRACY. It has its rulers, and it has its governors...they were not chosen by us, they were chosen by the people who actually PUT THEIR TIME AND EFFORT into this site...and for what...to listen to people like you tell them that they are doing a shity job.

I have absolutly no doubt in my mind that if your complaint was looked at, the pros and cons weighed and discussed, and then a decision made.

One of the reasons that I like this site so much is the fact that it is free, the forums are excellent, the people here are wonderful ( even those whom I disagree with and bicker with daily ), and EVERYONE is treated fairly.