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Marc2b -> RE: Gitmo a recruiting tool... (5/21/2009 6:42:41 PM)

It looks like Hlen5's and SilverMark's lucky day.  Oh well.

In answer to the question, why do they hate us?, the answer is simple:

They hate us for the same reason any fanatical, ideological, loon hates - we are not them.  We are the Other.





OrionTheWolf -> RE: Gitmo a recruiting tool... (5/21/2009 6:49:58 PM)

I believe the Prez of Iran is a radical, extremist, nut. Iran is not the entire Muslim world, but you are trying to fit every Muslim into your nice, neat little package. It does not work. You are lumping all Muslims into being terrorist, which does not work. You are basically creating lies to justify your radical, extremist opinion. I see some similarities there.




quote:

ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

this is from the jersalem post.  perhaps they know something you don't...

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1145961353170&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."
"Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations."
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

How can death become joyous? How can death become happiness? When Al-Hussein asked his nephew Al-Qassem, when he had not yet reached puberty: "How do you like the taste of death, son?" He answered that it was sweeter than honey. How can the foul taste of death become sweeter than honey? Only through conviction, ideology, and faith, through belief, and devotion.
We do not want to...leave our homeland to Israel... Therefore, we are not interested in our own personal security. On the contrary, each of us lives his days and nights hoping more than anything to be killed for the sake of Allah. (MEMRI: Al-Manar TV , Feb. 18-19, 2005)
 
Hassan Nasrallah
 





MissSepphora1 -> RE: Gitmo a recruiting tool... (5/21/2009 9:57:39 PM)

You are dead wrong.  I'm not saying all muslims are anything.  Please point out where I said all muslims are terrorists.
What I did say was they have more reasons to hate us than gitmo, which is what the president said in his speech today. 
"The terrorists used Gitmo as a recruitment tool."
I was rebutting that fact.  NO WHERE did I say ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS.
Please rephrase your question.

quote:

ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

I believe the Prez of Iran is a radical, extremist, nut. Iran is not the entire Muslim world, but you are trying to fit every Muslim into your nice, neat little package. It does not work. You are lumping all Muslims into being terrorist, which does not work. You are basically creating lies to justify your radical, extremist opinion. I see some similarities there.




quote:

ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

this is from the jersalem post.  perhaps they know something you don't...

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1145961353170&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."
"Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations."
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

How can death become joyous? How can death become happiness? When Al-Hussein asked his nephew Al-Qassem, when he had not yet reached puberty: "How do you like the taste of death, son?" He answered that it was sweeter than honey. How can the foul taste of death become sweeter than honey? Only through conviction, ideology, and faith, through belief, and devotion.
We do not want to...leave our homeland to Israel... Therefore, we are not interested in our own personal security. On the contrary, each of us lives his days and nights hoping more than anything to be killed for the sake of Allah. (MEMRI: Al-Manar TV , Feb. 18-19, 2005)
 
Hassan Nasrallah
 






MissSepphora1 -> RE: Gitmo a recruiting tool... (5/21/2009 10:00:14 PM)

oh and if you will, please show me one lie.  Please point out just one lie.  And I'll admit I'm wrong.  If you can't find a lie, please admit you're wrong.

quote:

ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

I believe the Prez of Iran is a radical, extremist, nut. Iran is not the entire Muslim world, but you are trying to fit every Muslim into your nice, neat little package. It does not work. You are lumping all Muslims into being terrorist, which does not work. You are basically creating lies to justify your radical, extremist opinion. I see some similarities there.




quote:

ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

this is from the jersalem post.  perhaps they know something you don't...

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1145961353170&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."
"Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations."
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

How can death become joyous? How can death become happiness? When Al-Hussein asked his nephew Al-Qassem, when he had not yet reached puberty: "How do you like the taste of death, son?" He answered that it was sweeter than honey. How can the foul taste of death become sweeter than honey? Only through conviction, ideology, and faith, through belief, and devotion.
We do not want to...leave our homeland to Israel... Therefore, we are not interested in our own personal security. On the contrary, each of us lives his days and nights hoping more than anything to be killed for the sake of Allah. (MEMRI: Al-Manar TV , Feb. 18-19, 2005)
 
Hassan Nasrallah
 






popeye1250 -> RE: Gitmo a recruiting tool... (5/21/2009 10:09:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

Uhbama states Gitmo is a recruiting tool for the terrorists, stating it will close so that we will keep our moral compass strong.
If we are discussing stopping things that are used as propaganda for terrorist groups to recruit more terrorists, why don't we stop supporting or funding Israel, since that is the main reason the terrorists give for coming after us in the first place.


They didn't seem to have any "recruiting problems" before GTMO existed , did they?
And who exactly said that the terrorists used GTMO as a recruting tool? Do they have *specific intelligence* that says so?
You know, if I were a terrorist that would be a lousey recruiting tool to me!
A better tool would be to toss another 5 virgins my way and if any of them even remotely look like Nancy Pelosi I'm going to fuck you up!
I mean how the hell would you use "GTMO" as a "recruiting tool for terrorists?"
That sounds like "Clinton speak." You know, "a bridge to the 21st century?" Where's *that* bridge?




MissSepphora1 -> RE: Gitmo a recruiting tool... (5/21/2009 10:15:48 PM)

I didn't think so, but apparently 20 years of attacks on US soil by these NON-terrorist NON-muslims *lets be PC here, not all terrorists are muslim, and not all muslims are terrorist* are canceled out by the fact that we NON-tortured *again PC* people who may or may not have been muslim and may or may not have been terrorists.
You know... if we hadn't elected a republican president, non of these *whatever you want to call them* would have attacked since there were no attacks in the 70s, 80s, or 90s.  Damn us conservatives anyway!

Did 9/11 even happen?  Or was that Bush propaganda to give us a reason to go into Iraq.
I'm soooo confused.


quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

Uhbama states Gitmo is a recruiting tool for the terrorists, stating it will close so that we will keep our moral compass strong.
If we are discussing stopping things that are used as propaganda for terrorist groups to recruit more terrorists, why don't we stop supporting or funding Israel, since that is the main reason the terrorists give for coming after us in the first place.


They didn't seem to have any "recruiting problems" before GTMO existed , did they?




popeye1250 -> RE: Gitmo a recruiting tool... (5/21/2009 10:19:06 PM)

Sepphora, GTMO didn't exist on 9-11-2001.
Something smells fishy here.




MissSepphora1 -> RE: Gitmo a recruiting tool... (5/21/2009 10:26:32 PM)

I don't think there were any non muslim no terrorists before 9-11  either.
it's all fiction.
just close your eyes and believe whatever obama says, because he hopes he can change everything.
maybe he should hope terrorists quit attacking the US.  that might work.




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