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leadership527 -> RE: age (6/1/2009 8:56:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: colouredin To say 'all young people' 'all women' 'all black people' is bigotry. Yeah, but I'm pretty OK with "All young people are young and most of them are going to act like it."

variation30 -> RE: age (6/1/2009 8:57:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: colouredin A fixed social characteristic = race age gender physical ability mental ability sexuality To say 'all young people' 'all women' 'all black people' is bigotry. Also opinions are fine, I can understand you form assumptions based on personal experience, thats cool too, but to apply a brush stroke comment about ALL people based on any of the above is by its definition bigotry. hm. if I said all german people are from germany, would you find that bigoted? it is a statement about an entire group of individuals...but it also happens to be true. I guess you would find no offense with that statement. so the difference between an opinion, which is fine, and bigotry is whether or not you like or agree with what is said, not whether or not it is made in regards to an entire group of people because of a characteristic they share. now granted, statements about 'all x' are most probably going to be incorrect. but trying to lump them into a category called 'bigoted' in an attempt to invalidate them is unnecessary, the original statement will be invalidated quickly enough. for instance, if I were to say 'black people are irresponsible', it would take the average person a very small amount of time demonstrate why that statement is false. however, if you allow people to form an idea of bigotry - that these statements are patently invalid because they are made about of large group of people or because they are considered unpopular as opposed to being invalid because of their content, you encourage a corrosive laziness. pretty soon people will be dismissing arguments that 'some of x are y' because they are 'bigoted'...the end result of which would be the stagnation of one's own intellect.

colouredin -> RE: age (6/1/2009 8:57:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: leadership527 quote: ORIGINAL: colouredin To say 'all young people' 'all women' 'all black people' is bigotry. Yeah, but I'm pretty OK with "All young people are young and most of them are going to act like it." Most is fine, some is fine, its just all that I have a problem with.

colouredin -> RE: age (6/1/2009 9:00:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: variation30 quote: ORIGINAL: colouredin A fixed social characteristic = race age gender physical ability mental ability sexuality To say 'all young people' 'all women' 'all black people' is bigotry. Also opinions are fine, I can understand you form assumptions based on personal experience, thats cool too, but to apply a brush stroke comment about ALL people based on any of the above is by its definition bigotry. hm. if I said all german people are from germany, would you find that bigoted? it is a statement about an entire group of individuals...but it also happens to be true. And which one of the social facts does that include? You can argue the point as much as you like, as I have stated above is what bigotry is, its not about invalidating them its simply the definition of the word. ETA I am sure that you will respond with an equally pedantic post. However please note that my lack of response it is due to the fact that bigotry is what it is. If you do not believe it exists that is your prerogative however for those that do, thats what it is.

variation30 -> RE: age (6/1/2009 9:05:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: colouredin And which one of the social facts does that include? You can argue the point as much as you like, as I have stated above is what bigotry is, its not about invalidating them its simply the definition of the word. I could make a similar statement about any of the social...'facts' you listed. and yes, this is all about invalidation and stigmatization of ideas. calling an idea or person bigoted is not neutral - it is a value judgment levied against their ratiocinations. it's an impotent attempt to attack the foundation of an argument without actually having to deal with the argument itself.

leadership527 -> RE: age (6/1/2009 9:07:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: colouredin Most is fine, some is fine, its just all that I have a problem with. nods You do understand though, that that will constitute an age-based selection process on my part. Not so much of a hard limit as a soft one. In general, I don't go shopping among the 35 and younger crowd because I generally expect to have a difficult time finding what I want there. So there is a barrier to entry with me. People below 35-ish will just slide under my radar. Where I to meet someone of any age though and, for whatever reasons, strike up a conversation with them, then at that point I am inclined to take them at face value.

colouredin -> RE: age (6/1/2009 9:16:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: leadership527 quote: ORIGINAL: colouredin Most is fine, some is fine, its just all that I have a problem with. nods You do understand though, that that will constitute an age-based selection process on my part. Not so much of a hard limit as a soft one. In general, I don't go shopping among the 35 and younger crowd because I generally expect to have a difficult time finding what I want there. So there is a barrier to entry with me. People below 35-ish will just slide under my radar. Where I to meet someone of any age though and, for whatever reasons, strike up a conversation with them, then at that point I am inclined to take them at face value. Which is cool, I do not see the problem with people even saying they do not fancy young people or white people or whatever because its personal preference. My point is when someone comes alone and makes a statement about all people that I find offensive, the point Variation made about young women not having feminine qualities, or the points made that young people are naive to me is prejudiced and not true. Online we do tend to be stricter about who we will and will not talk to, there is nothing wrong with that, we base out choices on criteria we know to have worked for us as individuals. I have plenty of them myself, on here I rarely respond to mail from people 50+ unless I know them from the boards (where you get a sense of their character without having to look at their profile). But as you say in real life it is different.

Musicmystery -> RE: age (6/1/2009 9:39:00 AM)
~FR~ I have no problem at all with a younger slave, and have at different times spent serious time with girls 24, 25, 23, 24 and 24. I would absolutely consider such a girl seriously as a permanent slave, as well as girls older and much older than that. Younger slaves are different than older ones, yes. Not better, not worse--just different. If she were a good match, and if she were ready to commit to her slavery, I'd collar her with no misgivings. Also--every girl, no matter what age, is different. That's what is important--and what makes her valuable property.

LATEXBABY64 -> RE: age (6/1/2009 5:52:45 PM)
I think you have to be smart though A lot of it is about looks at age does play a factor we are just human beings and some say that is not true but most would be lying if they did not say it is all about looks chemistry and age

lateralist1 -> RE: age (6/2/2009 3:01:59 PM)
Age is fairly irrelevant to me in itself but it is less likely that a very young person would have aquired the variety of skills I require in a sub. Less likely but not impossible. Yes people have preferences they also tend to make decisions on past experience which isn't necessarily a sensible thing to do but understandable. Colouredin are you actually saying that gender, physical ability, mental ability and sexuality are fixed? Surely not.

LATEXBABY64 -> RE: age (6/2/2009 5:06:19 PM)
yeah i am that is how society sees things if not look at fashion i mean there are some shallow people but it is true hair color even age even looks sad thing of it is it can imped your judgement for a great person

Manawyddan -> RE: age (6/6/2009 6:34:46 AM)
It's a turn on in fantasy, but in reality ... callowness does nothing for me. Intelligence and submission and wisdom are turn-ons, in whatever age the body is.

abuddingdom -> RE: age (6/18/2009 8:49:46 PM)
Age doesnt have to matter. It likely does the majority of the time as far as chances for a successful LTR, but it doesnt necessarrily HAVE to, in my opinion. Here's my history : my 2nd sexual relationship began shortly before I turned 18. She was twice my age, & for about 3 years we reveled in an intense D/s relationship. This was a long time ago folks - the end of the 60's. There was no community to turn to for guidance which I knew of(I was aware of swingers groups / clubs, but that was the extent of what I knew of), certainly no internet, even the terms Dominance&submission didnt enter our minds & I'm not certain that the acronym BDSM had yet been put together. We made it up as we went along. She was married, not happily, but ultimately was commited to it&what she&I were doing eventually ran its course. Some, but not many relationships between an 18 yearold&a 36 yearold are meant to be forever but we did relate very well in the time we spent together. I topped for the next 4 decades, with only one relationship of about 6 months that I would put the D/s label on but again - we had no base, no support, we jsut made it up as we went along.Until my late 20's my gf's were most always older than me, some only a year or 2 but some as much as 10 years, I was ina a fairly long - to me anyway- marriage for about 20 years&she was 12 years younger. we were top/bottom, definitely not D/s. A couple years after that imploded I started seeing a much younger woman - 30 years younger. Noone was more suprised than me at that turn of events&suprisingly noone was unsupportive. Everyone said if we enjoyed each other to go for it. Which we did- we enjoyed each other & we enjoyed it, off&on for a couple years. She was an experienced&hungry little bottom, & I was just discovering our community&learning that it wasnt all about kink&sex. Again, we related real well. We shared many common interests & were good together in the intimacy department. There were no illusions that we were doing anything beyond flinging but due to this experience I finally accepted that age doesnt have to matter. The people matter. I dont seek women younger, or older, than me but I dont write anything off simply due to numbers...... About 14 months ago my pretty one&I crossed paths & we went 24/7 live-in about 4 months after that. She's 15 years younger than me. I sure as hell wasnt a wise beyond my years youth but for whatever reason ended up with older women & I know that most of them learned at least as much from me as vice versa. Now, in my older years(I'm 57) I'm youthful & intend to stay that way. Life happens, & I hope it keeps on happening for a long, long time.......

LATEXBABY64 -> RE: age (6/19/2009 9:39:57 AM)
i guess there is healthy age gaps and unhealthy what distance is healthy i mean if 20 years that is two decades what about thirty years apart or forty what would you do is one partner got ill and your only 25 how about medical life insurance all kinds of things not to mention what if they have ums and stuff some people live to much in fantasy land i think

OrionTheWolf -> RE: age (6/19/2009 10:00:14 AM)
And some people create their own limitations, or are unable to get over some obstacles. That is why it may work for some and not for others. quote: ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64 some people live to much in fantasy land i think

LaTigresse -> RE: age (6/19/2009 10:37:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: picardtim is a young submissive or slave kind of a turn OFF? No

subtlebutterfly -> RE: age (6/19/2009 10:42:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: picardtim is a young submissive or slave kind of a turn of? Yes okay..I admit..I lied..kind of, but some do find it a turnoff..think that's the minority though.

pyroaquatic -> RE: age (6/19/2009 11:10:25 AM)
I have been through many things already and I am physically twenty-two. Mentally, I am more along the lines of sixty. Most of my peers irritate me but sometimes I have to act immature just so I don't stand out so much. Sometimes I am immature. But I still haven't experienced much of what life has to offer me. It is like those that were serving the country in the Vietnam Wars.... They went in with the physical and mental age of twenty. Most that came back alive physically older and with a mental age of 40-60 years of age. Trauma does accelerate maturity levels but to attempt to act more mature than you really are... or less mature... meh. It is a mindset. Sometimes I am thirteen, sometimes I am 109. I switch.

PyrotheClown -> RE: age (6/19/2009 11:36:27 AM)
maturity is overrated http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqOm78Vvg3w

LaTigresse -> RE: age (6/19/2009 11:39:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic meh. It is a mindset. Sometimes I am thirteen, Give me a mud puddle and bare feet and I am about 5 or so........[:D]

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