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xxblushesxx -> Financial Domination Fetish (5/30/2009 10:23:43 PM)

HELP!

Does anyone cater to this?

Does anyone have any hints on how to cater to this?

I just had a caller who paid $1.89 for me to talk to him about how I was using him for his money.

I talked for about five minutes, and told him I was raising the rates. I did; to $3.67. We talked for about 1o minutes more. Honestly, I ran out of things to say...

And yeah, I prolly should have raised them higher, but...if you wiggle the bait too much, sometimes the fish won't bite...

I'd be happy to be directed to anyplace that addresses this question. I've seen the websites other girls have, but...I really need more than to read their blogs, yanno?

Tia!!

~Christina



tsatske -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (5/30/2009 10:38:21 PM)

There was an AOL website I saw once years ago, I thought that woman was just a genuis at it. They pulled down her website, I was sort of glad I got to see it before it was gone.

She was a redhead from IN. I felt her pics, (all tastefull and dressed, mostly smiling, a few were perhaps a bit meanacing, and some were a little showy - cleavage, boot shots, whatever; but nothing showerier than your own pic [we won't talk about mine on here LOL]), were probably real - her looks reminded me a lot of female cousins of mine, that were her age, that live in S. IN.

She sold thing. And I mean she sold EVERYTHING. She had a menu list up - you could buy the contents of her ash tray, you could buy a bag of her garbage. cleaning from her hair brush. A used toothbrush. just an amazing list. And, of course, there was used underwear, that goes without saying.

She had a list of her sizes up, if you bought her duplicate items off her wish list, She'd wear one and send it to you, and keep the other as her fee. Jeans, shoes, boots, you name it.

She had a list of her bills available for some nice subbie boy to adopt - including cigs, as well as elec, ect. And, of course, a wish list, if you just wanted to give her a tribute. Of course she sold pics and offered phone sessions, chat sessions and email exchanges. It's amazing what guys into financial domination will pay for.

Did you explore other kinks with him? you know, 'So all you want is for me to spend your money. Well, I can do that - but are you just too much of a wuss to take a beating? Don't you want me to hurt you, or just your wallet?' That might have opened up more room for you to play.

Not to mention, depending on his kinks - spending his money on lunch and drinks with girlfriends where you make fun of how you got his money from him - you could probably spend some serious time talking about what, exactly, you would say about him, how everyone would laugh, ect. Ditto that scene for a nice dinner with hubby, a real man, if your phone friend happens to be into being cuckolded.

Cockulding opens up some time spenders. talk about sexy langerie, boots, ect - and wearing them for hubby, and getting royally fucked, ect. If you can figure out his other kinks you can concentrate on them alot - getting your hair done, or the way the hose and boots feel when you are wearing them, ect, ect.

Are you going through a service? becuase, a lot of services have chat rooms and bulletin boards to exchange ideas among the girls, that can help a lot.

GL. And I hope you sell pics, you'd make a killing.



xxblushesxx -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (5/30/2009 11:43:40 PM)

I'm using a content girl on this listing. She's very young and beautiful. *lol* But thank you!

The problem with going on the phone boards are; no one wants to give away their secrets. *lol*

I keep messing up these fin dom calls though...I know I could be getting SO MUCH more. But then again, I feel guilty when I demand it. But then again, I know that's what they want and need.

I may just have to remove that from my listings until I can do better at it.

I did just have a sweet lil puppy boy who had fun though. And a sissy slut. They both had very happy endings. *giggle*



WarKirby -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (5/30/2009 11:56:06 PM)

Ever notice "no references to financial slavery" in the profile editing window? I get the feeling it's not too welcome here, at least.
Financial domination is somewhat frowned upon by many, It's one of the easiest things to be abusive.

Cases where people go bankrupt, descend into poverty, or let their family go hungry, because they give all their money to a domme, are not unheard of. You're essentially using your power over a sub to just take things from them, not really giving anything in return. It's quite a stretch to call this a "service"

Just my 2 cents, but if it makes you feel guilty, perhaps you should listen to your conscience. you could be helping someone to destroy their life.



tsatske -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (5/31/2009 1:21:44 AM)

I'm not saying the thread won't get pulled - but you did notice that blushes is talking about phone sex where the client - who is paying what he would be paying no matter what his fetish, - just happens to want to talk about financial domination? fantasy time, not real 'hand over grandma's oxycotin money NOW' stuff. It still might be Granny's oxycotin money, but then, it would be, rather his fantasy scenario was financial domination, or foot slave. on a pay site or phone sex service, it's all the same. What do YOU want to talk about tonight?
I couldn't do mistress at all when I did the phone sex gig, so I'm proud of you. I kept trying, but i just couldn't get my head around it.
And, to be honest, ime, what most of them want to talk about is their time in the war - for 1.89 a minute, some one will listen to them.
Hey, it's a job.



RedMagic1 -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (5/31/2009 5:23:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WarKirby
you could be helping someone to destroy their life.

A friend of mine is a professional Niteflirt domme.  A client told her that he was sending all his money to her, and was losing his place to stay.  She blocked him.  He joined under a different ID.  She blocked him again.  He joined under a different ID.  She blocked him again.  This happened four times.  He stopped rejoining, but he still emails her from time to time.  She doesn't respond.

Christina, she has since begun to interview her clients.  What kind of work they do, their bill situation, family situation.  That's how you can separate "want" from "need" -- by getting information, and acting on it ethically.

Here's a link to information on gambling addiction, which shares a lot of characteristics with sexual addiction.  Add money on top... you might find it useful.

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/gambling_addiction.htm



xxblushesxx -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (5/31/2009 10:39:16 AM)

Yeah, I *think* the no references to financial slavery refer to people who are on this site actually attempting to cheat people out of their money. They know I'm not...heck...I'm a slave! *lol*

I felt guilty the first time I did sph, too, and a few other fetish's the gentlemen have that requires me to degrade and humiliate them for something they can't control. But then I realized, this is what they "need". If I don't do it, someone else will.

A friend of mine turned down a LOT of money one night because she did not want to "take advantage" of the caller. When she woke up the next day, she saw he had thanked another flirt for "taking his money". At that point, she became hard core. I'm trying to learn from her lesson.

Hey Red, thanks for the advice! Your friend's screen name on nf doesn't start with an "a" does it? I know someone that this happened to as well!



RedMagic1 -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (5/31/2009 11:01:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx
Your friend's screen name on nf doesn't start with an "a" does it? I know someone that this happened to as well!

No, but I'm sure it will be increasingly common, as people get freaked by their economic situation.

Another thing I've heard of is to set up a wish list for the client's wife or girlfriend.  So for every dollar he spends on you, he buys her a gift of equal value.  My friend got a thank-you email from a girlfriend one time because of an arrangement a little like that.

My point is that you will be much more comfortable domming the client if you are 100% ok with it yourself.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (5/31/2009 11:08:23 AM)

I like Red's girlfriend gets bux idea, and I go for the charity angle---he coughs up, and for each dollar he sends your way, he sends another to a food bank or homeless shelter. 



AAkasha -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (5/31/2009 11:09:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

I'm using a content girl on this listing. She's very young and beautiful. *lol* But thank you!

The problem with going on the phone boards are; no one wants to give away their secrets. *lol*

I keep messing up these fin dom calls though...I know I could be getting SO MUCH more. But then again, I feel guilty when I demand it. But then again, I know that's what they want and need.

I may just have to remove that from my listings until I can do better at it.

I did just have a sweet lil puppy boy who had fun though. And a sissy slut. They both had very happy endings. *giggle*


I think if you can dominate from a place of honesty and integrity, you can take him to the far limits of his fetish and also blow his mind while making a boatload of cash.

However, if you use a picture that isn't even you, and both of you know this, it's all a fantasy - you are just talking about it. How can you start from a place of integrity if you are just pretending to be someone else?  He is paying you a fee per minute to weave a fantasy of financial domination "what if's" - if you push that to another level where you are *owning* him on some core level, which requires tremendous trust and a level of emotional intimacy, you can't start that from a place of dishonesty where he is talking to you but thinking he's talking to a "content girl."  That may be where your integrity/guilt is coming from.

You can make $1 a minute playing make believe femdom.  You can make $100 a minute being the real thing.  He is getting what he pays for, and rightfully so!

Akasha



xxblushesxx -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (5/31/2009 11:09:25 AM)

Ooops red, I meant to say "d" sorry. It's a word that would normally start with "a" but she left the "a" off. *lol*



HypnoticPrincess -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (6/9/2009 8:59:40 AM)

Hey blushes, I do this for a living and I don't mind sharing a little advice. :)

First I would suggest raising your min rate. You're worth more than that. A lot of guys will actually sit there and not call a woman if her rate is too low because they want to feel like they're paying for quality. Also, a higher rate weeds out a lot of the really creepy guys. Men who are willing to pay more are also more respectful and they know what they want so you don't have to sit there playing guessing games.

Take a few minutes to get to know the guy. Most men want to talk to a "real girl" who also happens to be open minded and non judgemental of their fantasies. I didn't think I could do the domme thing at first bcause I'm not mean enough. My clients are all super loyal and they absolutely adore me because I make them feel special and good. I had one guy tell me that when he talked to other NF girls, he felt dirty like he needed a shower but when he talked to me he just felt good and happy.

There are TONS of girls who will put on the bitch act and treat a guy like crap for a few bucks. It pays off in the end to be something different, to just be very real and genuine. If you say something totally stupid or your mind goes blank, just give them a cute giggle and don't worry about it. It makes you more lovable if you make mistakes sometimes than if they feel like you're talking from a script.

When you're playing raise the rate, go up by about $1.50 or so at a time. Though I will confess, I once had a guy paying me $50 a minute while he listened to me wash my dishes. My starting rate was only $1.99 but he kept begging me to take more so I figured, why not? He wanted me to ignore him while I took all his money.

Also, don't be afraid to ask for feedback before you hang up. Lots of the time they just don't think about it but if you remind them, they'll say something really nice in the hopes that you'll remember him next time. Another thing you can do is divide your customer list according to how much they've spent on you in the past. Then on the first of the month, send all your highest spenders some free minutes. The big spenders are your loyal clientele and if you scratch their back just a little bit, they'll scratch yours that much more.

If you do get negative feedback, don't sweat it. I have had guys call me for the first time because someone left hateful feedback and they wanted to apologize for his idiocy and make me feel better about it. Then they'd get hooked too and leave stellar remarks of their own.

A lot of girls have blogs where they write about their "fabulous lifestyles" .... Don't do it. Guys know when you're lying. If you write a blog, be real. Write funny stuff, share sexy pictures and just be that totally hot girl next door. Guys will identify with you more and they'll be more inclined to call if they feel like they already know you a little bit.

Hopefully this helps. :)

I'd say to email me but I'm terrible about actually checking that. :(



HypnoticPrincess -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (6/9/2009 9:07:31 AM)

Oh and I just remembered ....

Get a youtube account and put up voice samples.

Use Audacity to record yourself talking for about a minute or so. Just say whatever; introduce yourself or tell the guys a little bit about what you're interested in talking about on Niteflirt. Use a few of your content pics instead of an actual video clip. You can put it all together using Windows Movie Maker. Its really easy to learn.

Guys will find you on youtube and get curious. You'll get a TON of new clients that way. Free advertising for the win.



TEMPERANCE -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (6/9/2009 2:00:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WarKirby

Ever notice "no references to financial slavery" in the profile editing window? I get the feeling it's not too welcome here, at least.
Financial domination is somewhat frowned upon by many, It's one of the easiest things to be abusive.

Cases where people go bankrupt, descend into poverty, or let their family go hungry, because they give all their money to a domme, are not unheard of. You're essentially using your power over a sub to just take things from them, not really giving anything in return. It's quite a stretch to call this a "service"

Just my 2 cents, but if it makes you feel guilty, perhaps you should listen to your conscience. you could be helping someone to destroy their life.



I would have thought that any fetish which we wish to partake in could carry a potential of risk of abuse... some of which could be life threatening.
 
I also disagree with the notion that financial domes are ripping the individual off and providing nothing in return.  Of course they are providing a service in return.... though please don’t mistake serious fin domes with those idiot 20 odd year old something’s that are crawling all over collarme. 
 Fin doming should be highly specialised and in some ways can be used as a way of enabling some control over the subs spending thus allowing him to save where as he hasn’t been able to before....  it isn’t always about making them spend money..... its about controlling his wallet.... and not everyone chooses to rip them off......  and don’t forget the pleasure that they get from buying gifts for their Mistress.... you and i may not fully understand this fetish... but that does not give us the right to just dismiss it....



PeonForHer -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (6/9/2009 5:12:33 PM)

Sweet J, HP.  I've never seen a post on CM that so much makes me think of that old phrase, "feminine wiles".

Thank you for alerting the men here to some of the tricks . . . .



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (6/9/2009 8:11:25 PM)

They're not TRICKS, Peon, she's providing the service her clients want.  It's not easy to keep fetishists happy, believe me!



PeonForHer -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (6/10/2009 2:07:53 AM)

I didn't say they were bad tricks, Lady Hib.  [;)]



MadamnX -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (6/10/2009 9:38:58 AM)

"I guess i'm just going to have to remove my listing" BINGO !
This annoys the hell out of Me..what in the world were you thinking? ! to list yourself as a Financial Domme when in fact your a sub ! Leave the slot for the "real' take charge Domme's that know what in the hell it is their doing.

It's one thing to use a content photo because your smart , have the skills but don't look like much - but to All Out Fabricate a listing is just plainWrong. It's also discrediting N.F. which sucks because N.F. is the most legtimate phone service out there and with "real" Dominant Woman providing a legitimate Phone Listing.

Be yourself ! you'd be surprised just how far that will get you in more ways then one...

There are true submissive Women who are bringing in more cash through their listing then what a financial advert ever could simply because of the many Dominent men out there looking for a young, attractive submissive Woman to play with - such as yourself.



slavekal -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (6/10/2009 12:06:56 PM)

Princess Sierra is the top of the food chain in financial domination.  If her claims are true, she is pulling down undreds of thousands in money and gifts each year.  She brags about making men go bankrupt, being evicted, and completely ruining themselves for her.



AAkasha -> RE: Financial Domination Fetish (6/10/2009 12:10:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavekal

Princess Sierra is the top of the food chain in financial domination.  If her claims are true, she is pulling down undreds of thousands in money and gifts each year.  She brags about making men go bankrupt, being evicted, and completely ruining themselves for her.



Sites like this are the ones that get men so upset and angry, when it's obviously totally overinflated to make men feel *small* for giving a small 'gift.'  You think she'd be having a web site bragging about the $20 Payless shoes guys were sending her? 
Akasha



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