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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 11:39:19 AM   
LadyHibiscus


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And it's substantially improved!

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 11:45:45 AM   
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Okay, first, get used to the boards.   You asked for opinions, not only opinions that you would enjoy hearing.   Looking back at M's post, I don't see where she was sticking up for you especially, and I don't think we were ignoring her. 

In my opinion, you come off as brash, arrogant, and very sure that you know all the answers already.  I find that an interesting counterpoint to your self described "slave tendencies".  Not that slaves can't have minds of their own, of course, but I do expect them to be able to present themselves graciously. 

If you have been in and out of the scene for so long, how is it that you now claim to be inexperienced?  Mixed signals are a very bad thing...  


I was referring to Venatrix's post when I said that someone stuck up for me--she may not have been ignored, but nobody said anything about that.

The more you all call me brash and arrogant, the more I have to prove the counterpoint which, at this point, is impossible.  You'll just have to communicate with me as a human being in order to dissuade yourself of this erroneous view--which, at this point, I find highly unlikely.

With regard to my experience, I've been in and out of the scene due to geographic moves for work-related reasons, vanilla relationships, and dry spells.  I'm 26 years old.
You all are 41, 46, 47, et. al.  I said that
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ORIGINAL: newlychaste
I'm [...] not terribly experienced [...].

so at this point, I either accuse you of a misleading claim (which is brash), or claim ignorance (which controverts my not knowing all the answers, and weakens my position)--and bringing that up doesn't contradict your claim of mixed signals, but rather reinforces your negative view of me.

Flame on.

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 11:47:41 AM   
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Wow.  Just, wow.

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 11:50:21 AM   
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sounds really slave-ish to me.....  *snorts and smacks self...bad girl...bad bad*

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 11:54:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AngelGeena

sounds really slave-ish to me.....  *snorts and smacks self...bad girl...bad bad*


Look, y'all, I think we got off on the wrong foot, here.  I apologize for being progressively more riled-up about the comments you all have made, and for the tone in which I replied.  I will not, however, apologize for the content of my replies. 

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 11:57:51 AM   
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No one here is fighting with you, newlychaste.  I was explaining to you why your posts were sending off yellow flags to me, and suggesting methods of conversation I've seen have better success.  Your most recent post is sending off red flags, though.  You're being attacked by no one... except maybe by you, yourself.  If you want a "superior," "quality" woman, it's likely she'll have a lot of options.  Do you really think the personality trait you are exhibiting right now, is something a woman would find attractive?

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:03:57 PM   
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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:07:26 PM   
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Red, something you said made me absolutely furious.  Everyone has buttons.  The comment you made was careless and insensitive, and it hit me like a punch in the face.  At that point, it was "screw you, for these reasons:"  Congratulations, sir--you made me angry. 

Alright, I used the word "attacked"--perhaps too strong a word.
Would it be fair to say that I have been (with aforementioned exceptions, with the addition of GypzyQueen) generally condescended-toward, misquoted, and deliberately misunderstood?  If not, well, excuse me, but that's how it seems.

As far as "the personality trait I'm exhibiting right now" goes, well, I'm going to need you to be more specific.

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:08:45 PM   
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Well, you did warn us in your earlier profile that you were too sensitive for your own good... and I think defensiveness is mentioned there, as well...



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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:20:14 PM   
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Here's a bit of a story from someone old, take it for what its worth...

When I was very young...(don't you hate when people start like that?  I mean you could next hear of the depression or covered wagons, from someone acting superior and talking down to you... but give me a moment here!) I wasn't all that secure in myself.  I found new clothes, new friends, success and I found that men were attracted to me and no longer just high school boys.  I puffed myself up in my false bravodo, flirted my way through many situations and was rather brassy.  Had anyone deflated me, I would have been crushed but I didn't get crushed becasue there was enough intelligence and personality within.  I wasn't so offensive that other's noticed my insecurity.

I saw success as wealth and I was on my way.  I bought two homes, impressed lots of people and had a life plan.  Everyone knew I would be a very rich woman because I had it all going for me.  This helped me to be even more confident outwardly, but inside, I wasn't all that.  I walked tall... I smiled a lot... I had it goin on... except for one little problem few could see.  I always picked apart... me.

I didn't grow into that outward confidence until sometime later.  But until I did, I was a true trooper in the war of insecurity.

Oh chaste one... listen and listen well.  That false bravodo and material things will not lead you to true inner security.  You say here on this thread that you have had some self image issues and in your new and improved profile, you state that you are sometimes defensive.  Defensive comes from insecurity.  It leads to passive aggressive and angry.

While you may have come a long way, you still have a way to go and some of us older folk... depression or not... success or not, as you may see it, we have our worth sometimes in life experiences and know things that you cannot know and that we could not know at a tender age.  While it is hard to take what may seem to be an attack, I think you would do well to consider that these things said to you can be a challenge more than an attack.  Once you see them as a challenge, the defense is gone and you can benefit from the remarks, whether or not they will actually apply to you at any time.

In our twenties we are often trying to find our place in the world rather than just being in the world.  We often perceive things as something we later will find no real worth in.  It is wise one screams to the world to live a certain way and know certain successes and plan that future and I give you credit for that.  But one day you may see another way and will view success as something different.

In all my wisdom and worldly experiences... I have learned that success doesn't need to come in worldy goods or a pension plan.  These things are wonderful indeed and make life easier, but I know many with these things and much more who are lonely, sad individuals who have not succeeded in what is really most important in life.  People, love, laughter and happiness are the finer things to succeed in.

As well as I started out... I end ill and have lost most everything.  I live in a mobile home and dress modestly and yet I am happy, fulfilled and have some of those finer things.  I wouldn't change anything because I have had a wealth of experiences and explorations in life.  I made it in life... I succeeded and was even a public figure in my community and yet, I spend most days here pretty much alone, loving my family and caring for a brain damaged son.  Would you consider me a failure?  Would you see me as less?  Would you consider I was not superior becasue of these things?

I do not feel that one must be superior to be a dominant especially not in material things.  I don't need to be superior, for I know who I am and I don't need to lord over anyone.  I am happy with who I am... and I know who I am... and although I may be better at certain things that some others, I am less able in other things.  But I give you my word on something...  Anyone who knows me... who really knows me... knows the mind I have, the heart I have and knows... I am worth far greater things than what you see success as.

Work on building a foundation built on personal security in who you are... not what you have... Then the defense will come crumbling down and you will be free... free to love and give and take and not have so much to worry about.  Don't look for superior things in a dominant.  Look for someone who will value you and who value's themself because when all is said and done... all other things can be lost and never found again... but in who you are... is the value and that can never be lost.

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:22:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: newlychaste
Red, something you said made me absolutely furious.  Everyone has buttons.  The comment you made was careless and insensitive, and it hit me like a punch in the face. 

And yet, I am powerless.  I know nothing about you, except for a handful of posts you have made on this thread.  I mean nothing to you; you have no way to verify whether the story I told you is even true.  I don't even know what it was that I said that pushed your button.  I didn't insult you.  I didn't even talk about you.  I talked about what I have heard and seen in my own life, and said that if you saw a connection, you might consider doing X thing.

Good luck.


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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:24:13 PM   
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Fast  reply, though somewhat directed --

Red, I have to say that I've never known you to come out with guns blazing like this.  A bad day, perhaps?  Or maybe this is just the human male equivalent of moose locking antlers?  I'm not saying the OP is or isn't a nice person - I don't know him from a hole in the ground, but I did rather get the feeling that you made a lot of assumptions, and I couldn't see where you'd got them from.

My tuppence is that just because we're experienced or older, doesn't necessarily mean we're right.  I've met a lot a remarkably stupid 50-year-olds, and for all I know, I'm one of them.  After many years in the legal field, I've met a lot of really sharp attorneys that are the OP's age.  I've also met a lot of idiots at that age, too.  But, to expect that we be treated like the Grand Poo Bahs we'd like to think we are may be a bit unrealistic.  Respect is something you earn, and the OP hasn't been on the boards long enough to know which of us may or may not have our heads up our bums.  And even those of us who have been on the boards a while aren't always particularly well behaved to each other.

The OP indicates in his profile that he has slave-like tendencies, but I didn't see that he wrote anywhere that he behaves like that towards everyone.  It seems to me that I recall a lot of people posting in various threads that it is offensive or laughable for someone to act like a slave towards you when you haven't agreed to that kind of relationship, yet some people on this thread are criticising the OP for not being suitably humble, when he doesn't have any duty to behave that way towards us.

Finally, to the OP, I'm not a particularly nice person, so don't go sticking a halo on my head; and I may one day decide you really are a pain in the arse, but for now, I do think you've got a rather raw deal out of the responses.

On that note, I'm going back to making my soup.

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:26:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Here's a bit of a story from someone old, take it for what its worth...

When I was very young...(don't you hate when people start like that?  I mean you could next hear of the depression or covered wagons, from someone acting superior and talking down to you... but give me a moment here!) I wasn't all that secure in myself.  I found new clothes, new friends, success and I found that men were attracted to me and no longer just high school boys.  I puffed myself up in my false bravodo, flirted my way through many situations and was rather brassy.  Had anyone deflated me, I would have been crushed but I didn't get crushed becasue there was enough intelligence and personality within.  I wasn't so offensive that other's noticed my insecurity.

I saw success as wealth and I was on my way.  I bought two homes, impressed lots of people and had a life plan.  Everyone knew I would be a very rich woman because I had it all going for me.  This helped me to be even more confident outwardly, but inside, I wasn't all that.  I walked tall... I smiled a lot... I had it goin on... except for one little problem few could see.  I always picked apart... me.

I didn't grow into that outward confidence until sometime later.  But until I did, I was a true trooper in the war of insecurity.

Oh chaste one... listen and listen well.  That false bravodo and material things will not lead you to true inner security.  You say here on this thread that you have had some self image issues and in your new and improved profile, you state that you are sometimes defensive.  Defensive comes from insecurity.  It leads to passive aggressive and angry.

While you may have come a long way, you still have a way to go and some of us older folk... depression or not... success or not, as you may see it, we have our worth sometimes in life experiences and know things that you cannot know and that we could not know at a tender age.  While it is hard to take what may seem to be an attack, I think you would do well to consider that these things said to you can be a challenge more than an attack.  Once you see them as a challenge, the defense is gone and you can benefit from the remarks, whether or not they will actually apply to you at any time.

In our twenties we are often trying to find our place in the world rather than just being in the world.  We often perceive things as something we later will find no real worth in.  It is wise one screams to the world to live a certain way and know certain successes and plan that future and I give you credit for that.  But one day you may see another way and will view success as something different.

In all my wisdom and worldly experiences... I have learned that success doesn't need to come in worldy goods or a pension plan.  These things are wonderful indeed and make life easier, but I know many with these things and much more who are lonely, sad individuals who have not succeeded in what is really most important in life.  People, love, laughter and happiness are the finer things to succeed in.

As well as I started out... I end ill and have lost most everything.  I live in a mobile home and dress modestly and yet I am happy, fulfilled and have some of those finer things.  I wouldn't change anything because I have had a wealth of experiences and explorations in life.  I made it in life... I succeeded and was even a public figure in my community and yet, I spend most days here pretty much alone, loving my family and caring for a brain damaged son.  Would you consider me a failure?  Would you see me as less?  Would you consider I was not superior becasue of these things?

I do not feel that one must be superior to be a dominant especially not in material things.  I don't need to be superior, for I know who I am and I don't need to lord over anyone.  I am happy with who I am... and I know who I am... and although I may be better at certain things that some others, I am less able in other things.  But I give you my word on something...  Anyone who knows me... who really knows me... knows the mind I have, the heart I have and knows... I am worth far greater things than what you see success as.

Work on building a foundation built on personal security in who you are... not what you have... Then the defense will come crumbling down and you will be free... free to love and give and take and not have so much to worry about.  Don't look for superior things in a dominant.  Look for someone who will value you and who value's themself because when all is said and done... all other things can be lost and never found again... but in who you are... is the value and that can never be lost.

This was awesome.


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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:34:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
I don't even know what it was that I said that pushed your button.  I didn't insult you.  I didn't even talk about you.  Good luck.



Does
"Since you are "innately smarter"
sound insulting...??

what his old profile said was...
he was "too intelligent for his own good = sensitive"

I agree with V...

and feel this was fukkin harsh
and I often see it on  a SUNDAY as an amusement for some Doms and DOMMES and it burns my ass...
There are many ways to get someone to think...and usually
being a piranha is not the way

he asked for help and IS working on his profile...

we all were NEW once...

GQ

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:41:34 PM   
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I went back and read what Red had to say, and I guess it makes sense that we're friends, because I don't see him being mean here, or attacking. I DID see the OP's original profile as arrogant and abrasive, and generally not the kind of profile I would return to.    I'm glad to see that he has changed it substantially, and made it much more inviting.

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:43:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: newlychaste

Red, something you said made me absolutely furious.  Everyone has buttons.  The comment you made was careless and insensitive, and it hit me like a punch in the face.  At that point, it was "screw you, for these reasons:"  Congratulations, sir--you made me angry. 

Alright, I used the word "attacked"--perhaps too strong a word.
Would it be fair to say that I have been (with aforementioned exceptions, with the addition of GypzyQueen) generally condescended-toward, misquoted, and deliberately misunderstood?  If not, well, excuse me, but that's how it seems.

As far as "the personality trait I'm exhibiting right now" goes, well, I'm going to need you to be more specific.

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Duuuuuuuuude, why the bloody hell would you get upset over pixels on a screen?!?!? I mean, come on now! You asked for opinions. I've got news for you, this site has opinions galore. Doubtful that you will agree with, or like, a large number of them. However, if you are going to get your panties in a wad over them, perhaps you need to reconsider using the net to interact with other people....

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:51:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
My point is that the highly successful people I know almost never talk this way.  They tend to talk about how much of life they don't understand, and act genuinely curious in the viewpoints of others.  They got good at whatever they got good at, by paying attention to other people, not just themselves.
Oh thank God I'm not the only person on earth who's met wonderful people who would otherwise be considered superior, but don't consider themselves, or behave as if superior to anyone.   Thank God indeed.   

quote:

newlychaste
... and with regard to the arrogance, well, I am generally humble, but there's a time and place for it, in my opinion
There is a time and place for arrogance as well.   And though I can't think of one myself, I'm fairly certain, it won't attract as much dominant attention as you may like.   Of course you may attract some, as has been pointed out here, but your post indicates you're not getting as many hits as you'd like, so there may be something to be considered, in the opinions of those of us you haven't liked so much.

quote:

I won't give myself to anyone who's just picked up a flogger and calls herself a Domme
We don't all have floggers.

quote:

nor will I feel a sense of humility in the presence of someone who is not literally my superior.  That's truth in advertising.  Granted, it may be a little off-putting, but it will save me more unnecessary false starts
Feeling a sense of humility/inferior only when you know/feel another human is superior based on those things you deem important/superior is fair enough, and I hope you find exactly what you seek.   In fact, I don't think the world has a shortage of large egos with more stuff and degrees than you.

quote:

Anyway, I was curious about more general interest, not necessarily to have my profile critiqued.
My post was in response to your post, and profile content
quote:

look for when viewing the profile of a submissive man?  Consider tone, length, content
I didn't come at you as softly as I could have, because your profile suggested you could handle anything.  
Anyway, I am sorry for your loss, and you may be letting a lot of the pain you're feeling out, albeit in a very articulate, though not very eloquent way.    M

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 12:52:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Duuuuuuuuude, why the bloody hell would you get upset over pixels on a screen?!?!? [...] However, if you are going to get your panties in a wad over them, perhaps you need to reconsider using the net to interact with other people....


Suffice it to say that "your mom" jokes really aren't appropriate in the company of someone whose mother just passed away.  That wasn't what he said, but it hit approximately that close to home. 

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
I went back and read what Red had to say, and I guess it makes sense that we're friends, because I don't see him being mean here, or attacking. I DID see the OP's original profile as arrogant and abrasive, and generally not the kind of profile I would return to.    I'm glad to see that he has changed it substantially, and made it much more inviting.


Come one, come all.  Even you, Red.  Lol. 

quote:

ORIGINAL:  breatheasone
This was awesome.


Agreed.  :)  

quote:

ORIGINAL:  RedMagic1
And yet, I am powerless.  I know nothing about you, except for a handful of posts you have made on this thread.  I mean nothing to you; you have no way to verify whether the story I told you is even true.  I don't even know what it was that I said that pushed your button.  I didn't insult you.  I didn't even talk about you.  I talked about what I have heard and seen in my own life, and said that if you saw a connection, you might consider doing X thing.


Apology accepted.


GROUP HUG!!!!  *Hugs all around*

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 1:04:50 PM   
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Mom jokes?

Was someone telling bad "your momma is so......" jokes?

Seriously you are coming across as a hysterical, over sensitive, fright. Calm the fuck down.

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RE: I'm Looking For... (profile question-ish) - 5/31/2009 4:34:10 PM   
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You know if you say not to check out your profile, we have to do it! It is very well-written, and you sound like you have a lot to offer a domme.

To answer your question, I have never actively looked at a sub male's profile. If I see an interesting post, I may look at the profile to get a better feel for the poster. But as far as looking for a sub, I have enough of them wander by and e-mail me that I don't bother looking for someone on my own. Plus, I already have a slave, so I am not actively looking right now anyway.

Now I have gone looking for dominant males. I am looking for a disciplinarian for my slave since he lives six states away and tends to get himself in trouble. Otherwise, I haven't actively looked for a profile.

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