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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 6:34:50 PM

samboct

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Janie

Well, my French is pretty rusty, but I agree with your translation- but I don't agree with the journalist. Thunderstorms are pretty powerful- even at 10,000 meters. Airplanes are designed to be able to withstand certain load limits- exceed those limits and important bits come off.

Had another thunk- what if the lightning fried some of the instrumentation such as the weather radar which IIRC, helps airplanes route away from thundercells? Then they flew into a thundercell and broke up.

It's all speculation till the black box is recovered- and even then, there may be some missing pieces.

Morbid humor time-

What did one tiger shark say to his buddy? Oh goodie- Air France- they have the best airline food going....

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 7:06:30 PM

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It's weird that people have to resort to dodgy online translation tools when they have a perfectly qualified French translator here on the site. Aka, moi.

To janiebelle, I didn't have to bother to look very far for incidents involving just the Boeing 747 . As for other Boeing aircrafts encountering incidents/accidents, ils sont légion: voici. To manage to make today's tragic event into some kind of national disqualifier about 'the French' (those fucking Frogs!) is really taking the biscuit, but not being a professional conspiracy theorist, I can't find the right mindset for it. Mais bon, faut pas pousser mémé dans les orties non plus, bordel de pute.

I can't imagine for the life of me what it must be like to be expecting someone to land from a flight that just went and disappeared over the ocean. This kind of incident is tragic. Thankfully, it is also extremely rare. Lets let it stay that way

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 7:18:38 PM

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Where is Captain Sully when you need him?

What an awful thing to happen...to the people on the plane and their families. I wish them closure, whatever the outcome.

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 7:22:32 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

It's weird that people have to resort to dodgy online translation tools when they have a perfectly qualified French translator here on the site. Aka, moi.

To janiebelle, I didn't have to bother to look very far for incidents involving just the Boeing 747 . As for other Boeing aircrafts encountering incidents/accidents, ils sont légion: voici. To manage to make today's tragic event into some kind of national disqualifier about 'the French' (those fucking Frogs!) is really taking the biscuit, but not being a professional conspiracy theorist, I can't find the right mindset for it. Mais bon, faut pas pousser mémé dans les orties non plus, bordel de pute.

I can't imagine for the life of me what it must be like to be expecting someone to land from a flight that just went and disappeared over the ocean. This kind of incident is tragic. Thankfully, it is also extremely rare. Lets let it stay that way .

KittenSol,
I'm not trying to disparage the "fucking frogs" as a people, as my mother was born and raised in Paris, and I have spent more time there than the average American. In that same vein, I've spent enough time there to know that the French make excellent wines, wonderful cheese, beautiful shoes, etc.
But I would look to another country for cigarettes, cars, guns, or (though I'll never be in the market for one) airplanes.
I've seen some batty hyperbole online, but taking my opinion of the Airbus to mean I hate the French, that takes the biscuit. The fact that the French don't hold a candle to other European nations when it comes to that kind of technology is not an inherent fault of the French intellect or character, but rather a result of the high influx of immigrant workers in those industries. You won't find Saab, BMW, Ferrari, Bentley or Rolls Royce with such unqualified workers in that kind of field.
Exhibit A as applies to Airbus was apparent on the test flight in Toulouse when they jumped the chocks. Plane issue? No. Language/ culture issue...you betcha.
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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 7:27:03 PM

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N'importe quoi

. Mais tu as, cela va sans dire, le droit d'avoir ta propre opinion, ma belle.

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 7:45:12 PM

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Que droite particulière est très américain, n'est-ce pas? Naturellement, nous devons admettre que cette partie de cet "esprit américain" est très semblable à l'esprit français. C'est la raison que je célèbre le "Bastille Day". Nous sommes plus semblables que nous sommes différents.

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 7:48:01 PM

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Ouais... don't give up your day job

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 7:50:42 PM

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Nous sommes plus semblables que nous sommes différents.

Vous avez fumé quelque chose?

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 7:54:31 PM

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Oy vez

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 8:30:11 PM

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Vous avez fumé quelque chose?

C'est plus qu'elle fait dans la fumisterie des grands fumistes

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 9:47:47 PM

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Hey! No fair you guys speaking ze french so the rest of us can't figure out what you're sayin! Cut it out!

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 9:49:01 PM

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Oh. Attente. J'ai oublie ! Je parle francais, aussi!

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 9:56:23 PM

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Kittin, I rethought some of my "alien abduction" comments. It was uncalled for. I didn't mean to offend. I apologize. I tend to to use dark humor in tragic situations, and I can be inappropriate at times. I've been reading the posts, and it seems I played a negative role in the argument going on.

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 9:57:29 PM

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I hope they find these poor people. If not for their sake i hope the ending was quick...

I feel bad for them and their families and what they will have had to or will have to endure..

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 10:09:15 PM

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Venatrix
Vous avez fumé quelque chose?

C'est plus qu'elle fait dans la fumisterie des grands fumistes .

C'est un joli jeu de mots!

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 10:19:46 PM

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Oh. Attente. J'ai oublie ! Je parle francais, aussi!

"Non! Attendez! J'ai oublié! Moi aussi, je parle français!"

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/1/2009 10:24:15 PM

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Kittin, I rethought some of my "alien abduction" comments.

Actually, I thought they were pretty funny, maybe that's the Brit in me :-) . It was the whole 'the French can't build airplanes for shit' comments that I found particularly ridiculous.

Dans la tradition diplomatique... mille baisers :-).

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/2/2009 6:36:05 AM

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Possible wreckage spotted.

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/2/2009 7:35:33 AM

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"Where is Captain Sully when you need him?"

Most airline pilots are pretty good- as long as they're allowed to get some sleep (like the poor bastards flying in Buffalo weren't.) I doubt that this crash is going to come down to pilot error. In short- Sully wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference.

Janie-

In a well run plant- you can take smart folks from a different culture and teach them how to build airplanes. The US ramped up aircraft production by around 3 orders of magnitude in WWII and those plants were using women who'd never held a wrench or bucked a rivet- yet they built some pretty good airplanes.

In terms of French design... Well, the most sophisticated and elegant piece of commercial aviation engineering of all time is the Concorde- hands down. The airplane would still be flying today if Delta's maintenance had been up to snuff. (I think it's a bad idea when aircraft leave bits on the runway for other aircraft to trip over.) OK, it had a hard gestation period and the economics were a bit murky, but it was still a bloody marvelous flying machine. Besides-no fighter aircraft in the world (up until perhaps the F-22 and maybe not even then) could catch one.

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RE: Air France flight missing: Rio to Paris - 6/2/2009 7:42:44 AM

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Sam,
I have really appreciated your contributions to this thread.

Thanks!

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