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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Slaveboy, you are great at using terms like "most," "all", "every cop."  Sure many people will exagerate to prove their point, but can you offer any statistics to prove your point?  You say the ENTIRE justice system is corrupt.  Have you examined every court in every jurisdiction in every town in every state in the whole country?  Or are you basing this on your life growing up with the Hatfields and the McCoys who started out with no respect for system to begin with and who felt that they could do whatever they damn well pleased on "their land?"

Yes, you are stating your "opinion," but your arguments are always flawed, always filled with bias against the system and never have one solid fact behind them.  The majority of the people on these boards basically rest peacefully at night knowing that you would never qualify to sit on a jury.  All of the corrupt attorneys and judges would see through any facade of being a person who could fairly look at a case. 

You equate your arrests with being caused by your "having fun" as a young man.  Apparently in your eyes, breaking the laws of this country which are put in to place to protect ME, mean nothing to you.  But I do have to wonder if all the trouble you got into in the past was because of your insatiable need to exercise your right to freedom of speech and your apparent desire to try to piss people off.  Plenty of people in my area would happily do the jail time to knock some sense into you.  None of them are the least bit involved in law enforcement either.  They just get annoyed with people who try to spread their ignorance.

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ORIGINAL: GYPZYQUEEN

low blow..
 
I would like to have a person such as slaveboy at my side
in an altercation or when things get down and dirty and we are robbed for a turnip

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Slaveboy, you are great at using terms like "most," "all", "every cop."  Sure many people will exagerate to prove their point, but can you offer any statistics to prove your point?  You say the ENTIRE justice system is corrupt.  Have you examined every court in every jurisdiction in every town in every state in the whole country?  Or are you basing this on your life growing up with the Hatfields and the McCoys who started out with no respect for system to begin with and who felt that they could do whatever they damn well pleased on "their land?"

Yes, you are stating your "opinion," but your arguments are always flawed, always filled with bias against the system and never have one solid fact behind them.  The majority of the people on these boards basically rest peacefully at night knowing that you would never qualify to sit on a jury.  All of the corrupt attorneys and judges would see through any facade of being a person who could fairly look at a case. 

You equate your arrests with being caused by your "having fun" as a young man.  Apparently in your eyes, breaking the laws of this country which are put in to place to protect ME, mean nothing to you.  But I do have to wonder if all the trouble you got into in the past was because of your insatiable need to exercise your right to freedom of speech and your apparent desire to try to piss people off.  Plenty of people in my area would happily do the jail time to knock some sense into you.  None of them are the least bit involved in law enforcement either.  They just get annoyed with people who try to spread their ignorance.

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

Depends how persistent you are about it.

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

She already caused a disturbance by her action.

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Some AM radio guys looked up the Texas laws on the matter and in Texas you can *not* refuse to sign a ticket. You say no -- you will be taking the ride to jail. It's not a choice.

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ORIGINAL: cpK69

This could be where our perspectives differ. I think the choice would depend on the circumstances of a given situation; whereas, you seem to think it should have to do with the ‘wants’ of the, would be ‘suspect’.

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ORIGINAL: cpK69
In reference to the speeding, or in not wanting to sign the ticket originally? I didn't see much of a disturbance, until he refused to let her sign the ticket when she had changed her mind.

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ORIGINAL: cpK69
What about changing one’s mind?

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

In other words, yes it is situational.

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In reference to her beligerance and cussing at the officer. That is a disturbance and it's verbal assault if you want to get technical.

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Some cops are inclined to allow you to change your mind, some are of the mind that there are consequences for every action.

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ORIGINAL: cpK69
Like I said before, I did not see much disturbance (agression), before she was told she couldn't change her mind.

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ORIGINAL: cpK69
As for verbal assault; it is an emotional affliction based in ego. I would think that would be part of their training.

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ORIGINAL: cpK69
Sounds like they are being allowed to judge.

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

I'm about to look over the video again, but I see no instance of her "changing her mind" (nevermind that it's not a privilege she's automatically afforded). I see her threatening to re-enter the vehicle, presumably to drive off or at least to further irritate and aggravate the officer.

Yep. Nothing about changing her mind. And her entire television denouncement of the information in the arrest affidavit is a flat-out lie.

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

Psycho granny acts/tantrums as if her age should grant her immunity from normal consequence and then lies about it on TV.

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ORIGINAL: cpK69
Before we get into persecution for lying on tv, lets rethink…

Why do we expect Grams to be more responsable the the trained police officer?

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

Indeed. She does "kinda" change her mind by saying "gimme the goddamned ticket and I'll sign it." But unfortunately for her, that chance had passed. She was already out of the car, acting like a crazy bitch and the cop had no choice but to keep her controlled for both of their safety.

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ORIGINAL: cpK69

Before we get into persecution for lying on tv, lets rethink…

Why do we expect Grams to be more responsable the the trained police officer?

Kim

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

It sounded to me like she was being a bitch from the moment her window was rolled down. I believe she used the 'age card' before she even got out of the truck.

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Regardless of what type of allfiction it is, it's on the books as a crime.

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The cop makes a judgement call at the scene and that's it.

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Cops are not judges and can't determine guilt, but they can use their judgement to determine would should and should not go before a judge in a court room.

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But apparently feel they are allowed to punish.

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If he finds there is cause to arrest you, you're arrested The rest is sorted out in court.

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Just as we are held accountable for judgements we make, so to are the cops. If an inquiry finds that a cop used poor judgement, he gets punished.

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

The officer acted thoroughly responsibly.

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She acted like an idiot and had the audacity to lie about it to millions of viewers.

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ORIGINAL: cpK69

The point was, people were claiming the “cop” had no choice; he did, and therefore made a judgment.

• Full nelson (maybe transitioning into a camel clutch).
• Slipping a sedative in a drink and offering it to her.
• Pistol-whipping her.
• Lasso & hogtying her.
• Damaging her vehicle to where it was un-drivable and backup came.
• Cry, beg and plead for her to behave like an adult.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/052909_Grandmother_Tasered_at_Traffic_Stop

Grandmother Tasered at
Traffic StopUpdated: Monday, 01 Jun 2009, 9:13 AM CDT
Published : Friday, 29 May 2009, 9:17 PM CDT A 72-year-old woman is pulled over for speeding, then tasered and sent to jail.

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how pathetic!   Check out the bad azz threat to the cops!   Man oh man.   This has gone too far.   She likely was referring to common law- not statutory law.