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LaTigresse -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 6:57:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

I want one who trains horses


You need to find a family like mine. My sister and I both have spent our lives working with horses and dogs. I am so so SO proud of, and happy for, her right now. She recently got a job working with an internationally famous horse trainer, her dream job. Her new employer is so impressed with her that they have her working their personal horses (huge priviledge) and will have her showing them this year.

Yesterday her boss was being interviewed by a well known horse magazine and my adorable little baby sister was chosen for the photo shoot. She was so excited when she called me and I am so proud of her. She said "And it's all your fault LeeAnn! You taught me!". I couldn't be happier if it was happening to me.

Sorry, I had to brag about her......and she already found herself a tollerant (any person involved with a horse woman has GOT to be either as passionate as she about horses, or very supportive and tollerant...) man.

If you want a horse woman, hang out where they do. Get a part-time job at a boarding stable. Go to horse events, shows, sales, etc. Offer to assist them with anything. You will find her.



OttersSwim -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 7:18:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: born4serving

Forgive it, it is not in any relationship to which it has to refer to itself as it; but is in the world where it will always be at the heel of Woman, not as a man, boy or male, but merely ‘it’.


Born, I have read a number of your posts and I have to say...I think you are going about this in a way that will not get you what you want. 

Much of what you write is -all about you and your desires- and has little to do with the desires of the dominant Lady you are eventually hoping to attract.  Your use of the word "it" to describe yourself is an example of this...also your somewhat strident desire for a mistress of color...the whole thread about cum eating at the wedding...

But the thing is...

You are a bright and vibrant human being full of wonderful qualities and many strengths.  I suggest to you that highlighting those aspects of yourself will serve you better in finding the person you want than taking the "useless worm" and "it" path.  Also, if you take a bit of time and seriously re-think what you really want out of all this; strip away all the fantasies; I hope you will come to some underlying truths about "relationship", "connection", "service", and maybe even "love".

Those truths require you to be your best self in order to attract and serve the Lady of your dreams.  It is not about our fantasies, but about how we "connect with and serve" those around us.  This is true whether you are a submissive or a dominant or a policeman or a mayor or a mother or a father.  When you get down to those layers, you may find that your concepts of what you currently want in a Lady fall away a bit and you might get to see and value the person actually underneath the skin regardless of its color - how they live their life, how they treat others, how they approach D/s, and how/if you match them and what they are looking for, and yes, how well they match you and what you want too.  

When you completely -meet- another person in this life...what you bring to them is not your fantasies.  What you bring is your strength, your service, and your willingness to meet their needs and be a source of strength, support, and connection.  And in so doing, they will be inspired to meet your needs...and your fantasies.
 
Strength first...
 
Hope that helps.  [:)]



born4serving -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 7:33:49 AM)

^ ^ thank you for your response. it must however say, and it knows this may say like a lie, but it does not really have any fantasy but to simply serve a Woman. it has already experienced many of its fantasy’s, and continuing to be in this lifestyle for some time now, it wants nothing more than to serve a Woman. you will notice from its journal how present this is, and how it asked others about improving its profile.

It is true that most of its posts are about it and this has been highlighted before, but its latest journal is all about what it can do for a Woman.

In regards to take the lower approach of calling itself ‘it’ and being worthless, this really is no longer an approach that it is taking. it has looked upon life for so long and has questioned itself so many times; it has walked away from this lifestyle in bad times but has always crawl straight back. it has look upon its life and accepts that it is nothing more than ‘it’, it honestly believes it was born a slave to serve Women.  This is not just something that it writes about, but believe and is evident from past experience.

it appreciates your views, but this is the way it was born and its purpose in life, it simply embraces the lifestyle it has been given.



OttersSwim -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 7:43:06 AM)

Well thanks for considering my words...good luck to you on your path.



malloves69 -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 12:38:03 PM)

white mistresses for me only [:)] as far as im concerned it makes it more comfortable that way [:)] mal



Arpig -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 2:24:17 PM)

OK, since the OP has clarified that what he was asking was why some people have a preference for black or white partners....because they do. I mean its like asking why some people like sorbet, and others like cherry garcia (actually all right-thinking people prefer cherry garcia...mmmmmmm...sorry, sidetracked there[:)]). Why worry about the wherefores and the whys of somebody's preference, why do we have to analyze everything to death. Maybe its because they like the contrast between the dark skin and the light skin, maybe they like the idea of getting revenge for the slavery era, maybe its a romantic attachment to the semi-fictional antebellum south, maybe its something to do with getting back at a racist parent, maybe its all of these things, or none of them. It matters not why, it only matters that it is.



slavekal -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 4:38:20 PM)

In the final analysis, race is pretty much a non issue for me.  One of the best Mistresses I was ever with was a Filipina.  Loved her like crazy.  But if I was forced to choose, I may have to go with the black Mistress.  My current Mistress is an intelligent, educated, successful black lady.



stella41b -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 4:41:33 PM)

Personally I find people can talk about preferences and desires all day long, but nothing really happens until you're talking about needs and feelings.



army101 -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 4:53:25 PM)

Color? who the hell cares....everyone bruises the same right? and like the saying goes "If you cant be with the one you love? Then love the one your With!"



AlexandraLynch -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 4:57:34 PM)

I really don't care.

I'm white, and as long as the personality and the goals are compatible, I see no reason to reject an application from someone due to skin color.



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 5:42:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: born4serving

Before it goes on to offend anyone, let it just say that it does not intend to cause any offence and apologises if the following does offend any.

it is wondering what other subs prefer, whether it is a White Mistress or a Black Mistress, and why is this the case?

it does have a love for Black Mistress, and has seen from experience that many Black Mistress’s use their colour as a tool for Superior from other White Mistress’s, and in reality this is true because there are many white subs would honour only Black Mistress’s.  But why is this the case?

What is it that White Mistress’s don’t have that Black Mistress’s do have? What is it that makes Black Women so much more special that the White Mistress’s?

As such, this is also seen in many Black Mistress’s who solely wish to have white subs.

it is also one of the slaves who adores Black Mistress.  This is because of their curvy looks and because it feels that they have had a rough time in the past history where they were ruled by White people. it would like to be a white slave because of this fact that a Black Mistress could now use it has Her slave; but this will never happen.

On the other hand it would also like to say that it has experienced many Black Women who are not that professional in their lifestyle but this can not really put blame on Black Mistress’s as a whole, but simply the individuals.

it has also had the pleasure of being service to many non-Black Mistress’s, to which it can equally say it has been a life changing experience.

Regardless of colour, it does however see every Woman, as a Woman, a Superior, whether White or Black, a Superior none the less.

The questions still begs in its mind, as to what it is that people seek from Mistress’s who must be Black or White?

Again sorry if it has offended anyone; no offence intended.


Wouldn't touch that one with someone else's pole.

If I said Black....I'm a racist.

If I said White....I'm a racist.



DesFIP -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 6:28:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

I am 50, but my mother didn't feel that way. In fact she raised us to respect others regardless of skin color. While I agree that racism was much wider spread 50 years ago, it was still racism.



Would someone please show me where in Mal's post he quotes his mother as saying black, Asians, Jews etc are inferior? Because all he says is that he was taught there would be less trouble if he didn't date interracially.

My mother also was concerned when I dated a black male, as well as when my sister did. Not for us, but because at the time interracial children were not accepted by either race. Whites considered them black and blacks considered them truly white inside. Nobody seeks heartbreak for their children or grandchildren.

As it happens she liked both the guys very much because they were really nice guys. However her concern was valid at the time.

Just as her grandmother had a valid concern when my mother's uncle married a Christian. My great aunt was a wonderful person but by marrying a Jew she was ostracized by her family and not really accepted by her Jewish neighbors. Thankfully most of my family adored her but it was difficult for her. When I married out, she sat me down and told me of her experiences and assured me she would be there for me. But she was honest about the difficulties she had undergone that she would not have had to face if she had married within her religion.



SlaveBlutarsky -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/4/2009 7:03:23 PM)

I'm much more offended by the grammar/punctuation/word usage than any racial overtones. Figure out what you like, find what you like, love what you like. If that's a black midget mistress with a lisp, good luck. 



born4serving -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/6/2009 12:58:55 PM)

Here's an interesting profile it found, one of many that describes the whole issue:

"Observation 1: White man came to Africa to enslave my ancestors. Fortunately, this has long been stopped for the most part.

Observation 2: White man is at his weakest, when provoked by a black woman. Not many can resist this power, if it confidently and aggressively confronts them.

It is my mission to actually revert the first observation by using the second one. I live on an extensive plantation owned by my strictly matriarchal family. We gradually replace hired workers by enslaved men, preferrably white. Males with higher qualifications may be used for different tasks if appropriate. There are plenty out there who dream of this, and some even do have the guts to realize this dream. We still treat them as humans, but as human property. Since sexuality is the key to control over male minds, we are aware of their needs, we control and use them in appropriate ways to reach our goals.

Before being accepted into the stable, males must pass a one week trial. They book a room in a hotel in Kenya indicated to them. I will then test their seriousness during this week. Notice that males will have to leave their prior life behind comletely. Since I do not mind vacations, males may propose a different location, where they want to book separate rooms and my trip. All messages not beginning with the filled in form below will be deleted.

Name:
Residence:
Age:
Desired trial period:
Alternative location for trial:
Skills:
Experience as owned property:
Further remarks:


We also accept female household and sexual slaves. Application procedures can be relaxed for them. Please inquire if interested."

Sorry, hope it does not offend anyone.



FullfigRIMAAM1 -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/6/2009 1:17:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: born4serving
Here's an interesting profile it found, one of many that describes the whole issue:
So you have a problem with race, and race play being a racially mixed person yourself (I know everyone is), and apparently ambivalent about it...   So you wanted to stir the pot by pretending to have a preference for people who actually look more like you than you'd like to admit.  

You posted the above profile to make some woman look bad, but I think that she sounds at least honest in her desires, and location, and would be  the perfect match for you, if your first post were honest, and you weren't here selling us a bill of goods.   I'd like to say I'm shocked, but it's more boredom I feel with you, especially given Lashra has already called your BS.   M
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I recall getting a message from you a while back and told you that I was not interested. I guess my red hair blinded you to the fact that I am white as paper[sm=mrpuffy.gif]or as white as this lil dancing dude. But if I go out into the sun for awhile I turn red like a lobster, does that count?
~Lashra
  



born4serving -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/6/2009 4:06:32 PM)

^^ it would just like to say that the intentions of posting the above profile were not to make the Woman look bad, as it did not include any of Her profile details which would link the descrpition to Her.

it simply wished to point out there this sort of stuff is evident in society and wanted to hear the views of others from all race and society as to what they think of the issue and if they are involved in issues like this.



Arpig -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/6/2009 4:18:46 PM)

OK, I will try one last time (yeah right, me finally shutting up....oh look out the window at the pigs flying by....[;)]).
First you think black mistresses are better. Then you alter things to say you only meant to ask why some people might feel that way. Now you want a discussion of the issue of race play. It is going to be a little hard to discuss, because there really isn't much of an issue with it. Some are into it and some are not.

As for why those who are not into it are not into it, who knows why. Perhaps they see it as degrading, perhaps they find the use of any racial epithets or stereotypes offensive, it is likely different for every person who is not into race play.

And for those who are into it, just reverse the above reasons, there will be as many reasons for liking it as there are people who like it.

Is it right or wrong? Neither. It is something that turns some people on, in that respect it really isn't any different than spanking or figging or anal sex.

Is it racist? Maybe, that depends on the motivations of those involved. If I want a black sub/slave so I can abuse her because I feel she is beneath me because she is black, then yes it is racist. If I want a black sub/slave because I happen to find black women a huge turn on, then it isn't racist.

I hope this clears things up for you, and if I have somehow still misunderstood what you intended in this thread, by all means clarify yet again and I will answer yet again, but the answer will be similar. People have preferences. There is no rhyme nor reason for those preferences, they just exist.



londonboydaz -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/6/2009 4:39:59 PM)

born4serving was just pointing out that people are interested in this sort of play. It is true if you poke around on the profiles you will find a number either from white males or black females in a similar vain to the one he highlighted in his earlier post, where the racial element is not irrelevent but important to the people involved.



FullfigRIMAAM1 -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/6/2009 5:49:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: born4serving
it simply wished to point out there this sort of stuff is evident in society and wanted to hear the views of others from all race and society as to what they think of the issue and if they are involved in issues like this.
This sort of thing is not evident in society, though it may be evident on this site.   Some people enjoy race play, and some people do not, and it only matters between you and your domina.]
I couldn't care less about the motivations within anyone else's relationship.   I personally do not respond positively when someone approaches me with historic involuntary vs voluntary/kinky relationship comparisons.    M



porcelaine -> RE: Black Mistress’s or White Mistress’s?? (6/7/2009 12:34:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: born4serving

it simply wished to point out there this sort of stuff is evident in society and wanted to hear the views of others from all race and society as to what they think of the issue and if they are involved in issues like this.


for every profile like hers you read there are hundreds more that may never state this. i can't speak for others but i can say that in some cultures admitting a racial preference is pretty taboo. they may not participate in the sort of setting you've described, but may elect to date and yield to persons from a different ethnicity. personally i have no issue with this and have never understood the hoopla because everyone has preferences.

it should be understood, just because a person prefers someone of a different ethnic background does not imply that race play is a part of it. it has no appeal for me and i've dated outside my race for many years.for some this is on the table at the start, and others may choose to admit their affinity for race play once time has passed and they've developed some level of comfort with you.

porcelaine



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