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LadyPact -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/5/2009 3:23:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

And actually, come to think of it, I have met people within a matter of a couple of days. You exchange a couple of e-mails, one of you mentions they're going to the munch this week or whatever, and the two of you arrange to meet there. I don't see the big deal, honestly. 

This is Me exactly.  In fact, it's precisely how clip and I met.  I was chatting with some folks in the Atlanta area about going to the club there the following night when he just happened to pop in there.  There were no emails or phone calls.  Just two people who went to the same public club.  The other stuff came later.

I'm not saying establish a committed D/s dynamic that way, but if we're just talking about meeting someone, I don't see the big deal.  In My opinion, there's no better place to meet someone for the first time at an event that both people were interested in anyway.




PsyVamp -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/5/2009 4:35:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

If it appeals to both people, why drag it out?  IMO the only reason to drag it out for ages is because of distance or immovable prior commitments.



I have met people within a week, and there are some I still have not met after months of contact.  Most of those that I still have not met can fall under immovable prior commitments (called work/school/parenting) as there are so few hours in any of my days.  Traveling is difficult for me at this juncture in time so if someone cannot meet at a location within 20 minutes by car, it probably won't happen for a few months.

My current pet and I met here on collarme.  We started emails one March, moved to daily IM's rather quickly (I had been on a sabbatical from school) and by the beginning of June he had moved here.





lovingpet -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/5/2009 6:41:55 PM)

Both cases, it was a matter of logistics that put off the "inevitable" longer than we would have liked.  In the first case it was an illness in his family followed my my family's summer vacation.  The other was at the tip top part of the holiday rush and the obvious schedules and commitments involved with that.  I would have met both of them that very day, or the next, since one didn't answer my cmail til after midnight LOL!  When it's right, it's right, I guess. 

Others I have felt a bit of hesitation on and delayed meeting because things just didn't sit well.  Still we met, but they were duds.  No spark, too many things that did not fit with what I needed in a relationship and believed about the world.

Others I have met just on the off chance that they would be great friends after having been introduced in one way or another.  So far, these have been some awesome people.

All in all, I don't regret any of my meetings.  They gave me valuable information and allowed me to focus my energy productively.  I would say, the sooner the better, but only within reason and pay attention to what you learn once you are face to face.

As far as a D/s commitment, are we measuring this by when one first plays or something else?  As for official, we haven't exactly gone that route either (not techically partners so far as the public is concerned for very private reasons).  Once again, only twice did I play on a first meeting.  All others, we haven't played at all or, in one case, only in a club setting.  As far as a collar goes, I probably consider it to have far more weight just due to how I view relationships and commitment as a whole.  I have not been collared yet and both these relationships have gone WELL past a month!  If this step ever occurs, I will not be entering it lightly.

lovingpet





SmokingGun82 -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/5/2009 8:41:28 PM)

I don't think meeting the same day you talk for the first time is a bad thing... coffee, dinner, whatever. I did think it was funny one time when a girl insisted we talked for an hour, exactly, on the phone before meeting for a drink... mainly because I was insulted that she seemed to think I'd be incapable of hiding the fact I was a psychopath for an hour, but could have hidden it for fifty-nine minutes...

Sometimes my mind moves in weird circles, though.




Asherdelampyr -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/5/2009 10:42:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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I am willing to meet just about anyone in a public place

9 tomorrow night at the Sushi House in Temecula work for you? Awwww shit, there's that 'distance' thing Greedy mentioned [8D]

Honestly, it depends on the distance and situation. The last local D I met was a dinner date after about 2 weeks of internet/ phone calls (took that long for us to both be free on the same night). That said, I'm very interested in a Dom who lives about 1000 miles away, which adds a whole 'nother level of difficulty when it comes to meeting up; logistics, plane tickets, and such.

In the case of someone local, I really don't see a month as being too fast to meet for coffee, dinner, or a movie. JMHO.




I dont think im over 1000 miles away




WyldHrt -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/5/2009 10:51:58 PM)

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I dont think im over 1000 miles away

Not quite, Google says 751 [;)]




Asherdelampyr -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/5/2009 10:56:27 PM)

Somehow I knew that you would check :P




WyldHrt -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/5/2009 10:59:49 PM)

Happy to live up to your expectations [:D]




Asherdelampyr -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/5/2009 11:10:52 PM)

lol
Something like that




WyldHrt -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/5/2009 11:18:58 PM)

*smooch* [;)]




FullfigRIMAAM1 -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/6/2009 2:30:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda
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ORIGINAL: Asherdelampyr
I would meet someone at a coffeee shop or resteraunt the first day
Especially if there was pasta involved...

Heck, yeah. Why not? Pasta or no pasta. What do you need to know that you can't find out in a one-hour phone call? It's no different than seeing a total stranger from across the room at a party and walking over and introducing yourself to her, except that in this case, you'd know a lot more about them before meeting them than you would the total stranger from across the room.
I'll second the hell yeah!   I cannot stand how afraid and paranoid people are about meeting in real time.   I cannot stand conversation that isn't happening organically, and I get annoyed when someone behaves as if they've never exchanged phone numbers with a stranger, just for the thrill of finding out more about him/her.    M




RedMagic1 -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/6/2009 3:31:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

*smooch* [;)]

You two are sooooo cute!!!!!!




Andalusite -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/6/2009 7:23:27 PM)

SoulPiercer, I wouldn't say it isn't "real," per se, but I wouldn't agree to be in a relationship with someone I'd never even met face to face! I can't really speak to the vanilla sites you mention, since I have no reason to join them. I didn't get into the online BDSM thing or the public Scene until after I'd been doing BDSM in person for years. So, some of the attitudes that get parroted here and on other BDSM-oriented sites don't fit my perspective in the slightest.

agirl, I agree that playing in a hotel room on the first date, after 1 month or 6 months or whatever is way too fast. Connecting emotionally, and learning whether or not you are actually compatible takes some time. I don't think there's a specific time limit - it works out at different rates for different people. I know I took that quote out of context, but I've seen it other places here as well, just not quite as explicitly.

Kia, I didn't get stood up by anybody I agreed to meet here, or from the other site where I found my last boyfriend/Dom. I've heard that's very common. Personally, I use the Interwebs primarily to make the initial contact, and do rudimentary screening (is he interesting? in a relationship already? local? within my age range? etc.). Most of my relationships have been private-play only, so going to munches or playparties isn't one of my criteria.

CelticPrince, I noticed that on your profile back when I was looking, since your posts are so interesting, and you're local. Taking 6 months to meet someone who lives less than an hour away would *not* work for me, but if it works for you and your partners, that's great!

colouredin, exactly - I am open to a lot of different possibilities in terms of kinks, relationship structures, etc., though there are a lot that won't work for me at all. I think it's a lot hotter and more fun to discuss those things interactively in person, listening to their heartrate and their breathing get a little faster, and so forth. Reducing it all to a bunch of checklists or essays might be intellectually interesting, but it would still be so abstract!

allthatjaz, I can't determine chemistry at all over the Internet, or even after meeting in person, until we do at least a little biting and hairpulling and whatnot. Sometimes it is really intense right from the start, but more often, it takes a couple of dates to develop.

Missokyst, I've run into guys posing as women since oh, '93, back before the World Wide Web was around, when we were all using UNIX shell accounts, and the pictures were crude ASCII graphics. I don't understand the appeal either, but it certainly isn't unique to BDSM or dating sites!

MmeGigs, we've met a few of each others' friends, and that's important to me as well! I don't want to feel like I'm someone's dirty little secret, though I'm not "out" about my kink or D/s inclinations in vanilla-public places.

antipode and LaT, by "real time" I meant dating in person, being in physical proximity, whether or not it includes play. By "commitment," I mean becoming their girlfriend, and/or agreeing to a particular D/s role with the other person, whether or not the "collaring" terminology is used. Being regular playpartners isn't something I'd consider to be a commitment, but YMMV.

YHMA and Christinestill <singing> "I like you. You like me.. Let's go out for some coffee!"

RedMagic, I don't have a specific time frame for meeting, though on average it's been a week or two. If there's a good reason to take longer (ie. they are dealing with finals at school, or going on a business trip, or I suppose if they're long distance, then making the logistics work could be more challenging. I just was amazed by how many people said that a month was way too soon to take things to face-to-face!




RedMagic1 -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/6/2009 7:54:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite
agirl, I agree that playing in a hotel room on the first date, after 1 month or 6 months or whatever is way too fast.

Holy schmoley!  My first dates have pretty much been in two categories: (1) I guess we're just gonna be friends; and (2) let's do something nilla for a while, and then go playyyyyy!  (The play has usually happened in a hotel room, if that matters.)

I don't think I'm doing much "wrong," either, because former play partners have invited me to her graduation, to her wedding, have sent me birthday cards, stuff like that.  This isn't the behavior of women who feel used or discarded.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/6/2009 7:57:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

A bunch of people said in a recent thread, http://www.collarchat.com/m_2641143/tm.htm that moving to real-time in a month was an unreasonably quick transition. I met my Master after we'd only e-mailed and talked on the phone for perhaps a week, a couple of months ago. I also met a bunch of other people here while I was dating within less than 2 weeks from the initial contact. We just got together in public for coffee, or dinner, or some such, though, rather than going off to a hotel room together! I agree that a month is a little quick for making a D/s commitment, but not completely out of line, but I think that spending time together in person multiple times is important before making that commitment, anyway (even in a LDR).

How long did it take you between the initial e-mail, initial face-to-face meeting, and official D/s relationship/commitment?


What an absolutely phenomenal question.

How could anyone possibly know the answer to this question?

It's up to you.

Feel it out....

If you're a girl....I couldn't possibly advise you....there's a whole world of shit that can happen to you as a woman that'll never happen to a man.

If you're a guy....be careful, guard your heart (as well as your wallet) and be happy that you're taking a fabulous step.






LadyHibiscus -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/6/2009 11:58:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite
agirl, I agree that playing in a hotel room on the first date, after 1 month or 6 months or whatever is way too fast.

Holy schmoley!  My first dates have pretty much been in two categories: (1) I guess we're just gonna be friends; and (2) let's do something nilla for a while, and then go playyyyyy!  (The play has usually happened in a hotel room, if that matters.)

I don't think I'm doing much "wrong," either, because former play partners have invited me to her graduation, to her wedding, have sent me birthday cards, stuff like that.  This isn't the behavior of women who feel used or discarded.



My first dates tend to fall into category 2, these days.   What the hell, consenting adults, what's the point in waiting to have some FUN already?  An afternoon of kink does NOT mean that anyone has made a lifetime commitment!

What did people do before the internet?  Did they talk on the phone for weeks before meeting?  They did not.  They exchanged some letters or voice mails, and MET IN PERSON.  I love chatting on the net, but dragging that kind of thing out when there is no logistical reason to just leads to big fantasy buildup on both sides. 




porcelaine -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/7/2009 1:06:33 AM)

i think it depends on the situation. i've had some that took longer due to distance and another that moved faster. however, whatever the time frame you should be comfortable. i don't think there's a right way to go about it. what works for one may not appeal to another.

i'm apt to move a bit slower if distance is involved, but if the person is local and i feel a spark we might as well get it over with. though i do talk to them on the phone as well beforehand. some people can be seemingly appealing until they actually say hello. one conversation and they have quickly saved me the trip to starbucks.

porcelaine




DomImus -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/7/2009 3:41:38 PM)

I met someone online once who was local to me. We talked back and forth in email for about a week which was mostly benign chat with little fetish content which is the way I like to keep it until I meet them face to face. We met for coffee and decided to get together and give it a go. This was strictly a casual play relationship so there was no D/s commitment to be made. We got together at her place a week later for a casual 'toybag tour' (no play) since she was a newbie and then commenced to seeing each other about once a week for play. I was always pretty adamant about meeting local people face to face pretty quick - even if it is just for a cup of coffee. Beyond that I am open to suggestions.

I met my partner I am with online, as well. We met on IRC so we were chatting from day one. It took us about 3 weeks to get together since we live 200 miles apart and it was the holiday season. All of our communication was via chat or email with the exception of one short 10 minute phone call. Had it not been the holidays we would have met sooner. We dove right into the deep end of the pool the evening we met and established our D/s relationship that night, as well. That was over 3 1/2 years ago.

I don't believe in timetables. I especially do not believe that timetable A is the best way while timetable B is not whether it concerns meeting or making D/s commitments. No two D/s relationships are the same. It follows that the paths under which two D/s relationships form would not be the same, either.








greeneyedreamer -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/7/2009 5:49:19 PM)

I think meeting in a month is Reasonable but Committing is a bit much. Oh welll, only my 2¢.




lilgirl2008 -> RE: Online to real-time in a month is *fast*?!? (6/7/2009 6:58:15 PM)

I have no hard set rules about meeting someone. For me it is all about how I feel. I met someone here, and we talked in IM for a couple hours then I called him. We talked for a couple more hours that same night. Within a week I was having lunch with him. That was fast for me, but it felt right. We were together for two years after that.

Other times I will wait longer until I feel more comfy. It really just depends. THere are some people I have talked to on here that I will never meet and I know it after talking to them once. Since I am involved in the local community I always tell people interested in meeting me they are welcome to come out to a munch/slosh if they really want to meet me. It is a safe place to meet and if you don't hit it off there are other people to talk to.




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