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LadyPact -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 3:44:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

Wondering if Clip gets a hard time from his fellow soldiers, about the scar, LP, or the brand?


Hello liks2.  I'm not sure how often you get a chance to read the boards, so I wanted to answer this question.

Oddly enough, BDSM activities fall under the military's version of don't ask, don't tell.  That's why I don't mark clip permanently anywhere that would show when he's wearing his uniform.  When active in the States, that uniform would be his summer, physical training outfit, which is basically a t-shirt and shorts.  That means that I have the torso that I can use without too many issues.  If he would like, he can update his file to include what might be described as identifying marks.  (In other words, those things to identify his body should he be lost in combat.)

Otherwise, other soldiers have no reason to comment on his back or his chest.  If they ask, they've already broken the rule and can't use the information he has given in reply.  It's a catch-22 that works in our favor.

One thing that I do have to say here.  My clip is as bold as the day is long.  I've never seen him embarrassed or ashamed about anything he participates in.  It's part of what endears him to Me.




Focus50 -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 5:16:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KateyCaine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

Yikes, I was gonna pass on this topic but the (almost) lack of diversity emanating from the responses demands someone (ie, from my own "top's point of view") orta rain on your parade a bit....
 
Drawing blood such as cutting or needles etc is a personal hard limit.  And even though I won't and haven't done it, I find it very hard to believe there's some surreal aura justifying the assorted "beautiful", "wonderful" and "WOW" replies.
 
To each their own, of course, and I'm certainly not gonna criticise what consenting adults get up to in private.  But (uh-ohhh) since I don't actually see any question to warrant public discussion (which invites a question in its own right) and I have a personal peeve about those bringing their personal relationships onto public boards for little more than exhibitionistic bragging, I figger I'm entitled to vent in protest.  lol
 
While the OP is one top who greatly enjoyed what took place (along with her troupe of admirers here), this top thinks it's just plain gross and nasty - just as playing with bodily waste is!  So add my resounding *ICK* to the critic's verdicts.  And now you're all free to criticise what I think is acceptable in the privacy of my own (obviously sheltered) life....  lol (again)
 
Focus. 


Focus50, i respect your opinion, and i certainly respect the fact that this is a hard limit for you.

i am running the risk of being roasted alive here, but if you find things like cutting distasteful, don't read posts that cover or illustrate sessions such as this. i'm not being combative or trying to pick a fight - i'm a peace-lover, trust me :)

Everyone has their own individual wiring - what may be a hard limit for me, may give a Dominant/Master/Mistress or sub or slave a deep feeling of completeness  and fulfilment, and vice versa. Cutting or any form of edgeplay is a deeply moving and emotional experience for both parties - it challenges a lot of social mores and yes, for some may cross a line. The experience that LadyPact and clip shared came from a good, loving place, not a place of exploitation. No doubt they both overcame some psychological barriers, and the intimacy of the experience is something to happy about - i am happy for both LadyPact and clip. They shared that experience in order to inspire.

Electricity is a hard limit for me, i'll be honest, the very idea scares me a great deal, yet i would never belittle anyone who wanted to post their positive experiences with it.

With sincerity, not wanting to insence anyone,

To state the obvious, this is a public *discussion* board and not a personal support group.  I normally pass by topics that don't interest me but, frankly, it wasn't so much the topic I found disturbing here as the ethereal cooing and glad-handing that followed en masse. 
 
I figured this was one discussion lacking diversity and even a bit of objectivity and *sanity* - IMO.  As well composed as the OP was, what was really happening (for memory) was one person carving their initials into another's chest.  And it seemed like everyone was carrying on like it was a divine revelation.  So I posted another Dom's view....
 
If you know anything about my history here then you'll know I don't mind a fight.  But not today; I actually find this thread bemusing and even light-hearted.  As I said, it's not really about the topic for me.  And I don't roast girls anymore than I carve 'em up....  lol
 
Focus.




Focus50 -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 5:25:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Thanks, Katey, I was thinking much the same thing, but didn't have your eloquence!

Or courage?  [sm=boxer.gif]
 
Careful; got the jaw set and chest puffed waaaay out here....  lol   [sm=stickineye.gif]
 
Focus.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 7:00:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SassySarijane

I'm just trying to reconcile your signature with these two posts of yours. They definitely don't match mal. How nasty! You know, blood play, cutting and branding are hard limits of mine. I will not do any of those things and don't have any desire to, but I can still see the beauty in what she described and likely would have watched it done were I there. As to your crack about what his spouse thinks of it, what business is it of yours? Also last I heard this is a poly relationship so I am sure all parties were aware and accepting of what was done.


Lady Pact, thank you for sharing that special moment with us. My best to you and yours.


At least we gotta break from the endless posts involving his ass and a fist! Hurrah!!![:D]




LaTigresse -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 7:19:48 AM)

Luscious, I have to say, THAT is a VERY good point! One does get sick of posts waxing poetic about anal cavity probing delights.

Although, after reading this thread........I can think of a few variations on that theme I would like to try. I doubt the perp would be quite as delighted.




sirsholly -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 7:23:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: malloves69

if clips wife has any common sense in her body she would divorce him in a heart beat ...sad to see all you people that commented in favor of this says alot on why people being in married relationships is so screwed up today ..if clip was single he can do whatever he wanted to do without offended his real wife ..hey lp if you can carve your initials in his chest how many times have you fucked him ? ? his wife knows about that too right ? yea right ...mal
If a submissives posts are a direct reflection of his mistress, may i say you are doing her a huge injustice by making her look as bad as you are making yourself appear?




LadyHibiscus -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 9:00:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Thanks, Katey, I was thinking much the same thing, but didn't have your eloquence!

Or courage?  [sm=boxer.gif]
 
Careful; got the jaw set and chest puffed waaaay out here....  lol   [sm=stickineye.gif]
 
Focus.



OOOOOOH  tough guy!!!  [sm=mistress.gif]




sirsholly -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 9:05:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Thanks, Katey, I was thinking much the same thing, but didn't have your eloquence!

Or courage?  [sm=boxer.gif]
 
Careful; got the jaw set and chest puffed waaaay out here....  lol   [sm=stickineye.gif]
 
Focus.



OOOOOOH  tough guy!!!  [sm=mistress.gif]
this has potential.....

can i watch?




LadyHibiscus -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 9:07:36 AM)

Heh.  Okay, I have long wanted to squash Focus's lovely head between my hooters...  I admit it freely![8D]




GreedyTop -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 9:12:19 AM)

*shoves Focus outta the way*


pick me! 




beargonewild -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 9:15:43 AM)

I'd say something but my face is still stuck in Red's bewbage  hahahahaha




ShaharThorne -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 9:19:56 AM)

As a vet with scars, I would just shrug my shoulders and be proud of them. As for clip having scars, tis better to ID him with.

As for hooter hugging...I have been known to smother a few good men...[:D]




lusciouslips19 -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 9:26:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

*shoves Focus outta the way*


pick me! 



*Gets in line cause Hibbie with a whip is poetry in motion and beauty personified![sm=flowers.gif]




LadyPact -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 12:18:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

quote:

ORIGINAL: KateyCaine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

Yikes, I was gonna pass on this topic but the (almost) lack of diversity emanating from the responses demands someone (ie, from my own "top's point of view") orta rain on your parade a bit....
 
Drawing blood such as cutting or needles etc is a personal hard limit.  And even though I won't and haven't done it, I find it very hard to believe there's some surreal aura justifying the assorted "beautiful", "wonderful" and "WOW" replies.
 
To each their own, of course, and I'm certainly not gonna criticise what consenting adults get up to in private.  But (uh-ohhh) since I don't actually see any question to warrant public discussion (which invites a question in its own right) and I have a personal peeve about those bringing their personal relationships onto public boards for little more than exhibitionistic bragging, I figger I'm entitled to vent in protest.  lol
 
While the OP is one top who greatly enjoyed what took place (along with her troupe of admirers here), this top thinks it's just plain gross and nasty - just as playing with bodily waste is!  So add my resounding *ICK* to the critic's verdicts.  And now you're all free to criticise what I think is acceptable in the privacy of my own (obviously sheltered) life....  lol (again)
 
Focus. 


Focus50, i respect your opinion, and i certainly respect the fact that this is a hard limit for you.

i am running the risk of being roasted alive here, but if you find things like cutting distasteful, don't read posts that cover or illustrate sessions such as this. i'm not being combative or trying to pick a fight - i'm a peace-lover, trust me :)

Everyone has their own individual wiring - what may be a hard limit for me, may give a Dominant/Master/Mistress or sub or slave a deep feeling of completeness  and fulfilment, and vice versa. Cutting or any form of edgeplay is a deeply moving and emotional experience for both parties - it challenges a lot of social mores and yes, for some may cross a line. The experience that LadyPact and clip shared came from a good, loving place, not a place of exploitation. No doubt they both overcame some psychological barriers, and the intimacy of the experience is something to happy about - i am happy for both LadyPact and clip. They shared that experience in order to inspire.

Electricity is a hard limit for me, i'll be honest, the very idea scares me a great deal, yet i would never belittle anyone who wanted to post their positive experiences with it.

With sincerity, not wanting to insence anyone,

To state the obvious, this is a public *discussion* board and not a personal support group.  I normally pass by topics that don't interest me but, frankly, it wasn't so much the topic I found disturbing here as the ethereal cooing and glad-handing that followed en masse. 
 
I figured this was one discussion lacking diversity and even a bit of objectivity and *sanity* - IMO.  As well composed as the OP was, what was really happening (for memory) was one person carving their initials into another's chest.  And it seemed like everyone was carrying on like it was a divine revelation.  So I posted another Dom's view....
 
If you know anything about my history here then you'll know I don't mind a fight.  But not today; I actually find this thread bemusing and even light-hearted.  As I said, it's not really about the topic for me.  And I don't roast girls anymore than I carve 'em up....  lol
 
Focus.

On the discussion part, I'd have to say that we'd have to split that one down the middle.  It did become a discussion.  In fact, it became several.  You'd be correct in saying that I didn't start the topic with a question.  However, there have been questions related to the topic.

While I didn't put in the original such things as "who else enjoys cutting" or "who else sees this as a bonding experince" those things came up anyway.  If I had, there probably would have been less discussion in the thread, such as this example right here.

Even with the lack of a question, where you do have to split it with Me there, Focus, is that the topic should fit the parameters of the board, being General BDSM Discussion.  Though cutting, as a sadistic act may appeal to very few, no one can deny that it falls within the specter of S/m play.  Those activities that draw blood may be on the hard limit list for many, but to some, they do have appeal.  Some can even see past their own hard limits to recognize that forms of blood play can be fascinating to see or hear about from those who enjoy the practice. 




beargonewild -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 1:18:47 PM)

"...Though cutting, as a sadistic act may appeal to very few, no one can deny that it falls within the specter of S/m play.  Those activities that draw blood may be on the hard limit list for many, but to some, they do have appeal. ...."


And this is exactly why for one such as I is doing what is necessary to keep an open mind regarding cutting and blood play. I do admit when I envision being cut, my thoughts automatically think of the potential risks associated with breaching the skin barrier in this manner. Taking this one step further....I also willing admit this is solely due to my inexperience, my ignorance and my baseless fears.
It is by reading positive experiences from people, regardless of their label, which does help me learn and explore past my groundless fears. For if I choose not to do so, then I might as well walk away from this realm of BDSM and frankly, that is no longer an option for this person. The lure is too strong for me to turn away.




PyrotheClown -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 1:27:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

Wondering if Clip gets a hard time from his fellow soldiers, about the scar, LP, or the brand?


Hello liks2.  I'm not sure how often you get a chance to read the boards, so I wanted to answer this question.

Oddly enough, BDSM activities fall under the military's version of don't ask, don't tell.  That's why I don't mark clip permanently anywhere that would show when he's wearing his uniform.  When active in the States, that uniform would be his summer, physical training outfit, which is basically a t-shirt and shorts.  That means that I have the torso that I can use without too many issues.  If he would like, he can update his file to include what might be described as identifying marks.  (In other words, those things to identify his body should he be lost in combat.)

Otherwise, other soldiers have no reason to comment on his back or his chest.  If they ask, they've already broken the rule and can't use the information he has given in reply.  It's a catch-22 that works in our favor.

One thing that I do have to say here.  My clip is as bold as the day is long.  I've never seen him embarrassed or ashamed about anything he participates in.  It's part of what endears him to Me.



with all the swazis and shit I've seen tatttood on military personnel, I hardly think anyone will notice...

Unless of course It's a giant full back brand(or tattoo) of a penis


that might get some attention lol




liks2plzlf -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 1:51:21 PM)

Hi LadyPact

I am sure the military has changed alot since I was in. But I bet the men are the same. If they see scars or tatoos, his friends are sure to ask about them. If they know what they stand for, I bet he gets some good natured teasing, all friendly of course. He can always tell them it is none of their business too. Unless they have private showers in the military now, they will get noticed. I think I would like to be in that situation. I would want some people to know I was owned.

Larry




Lockit -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 4:48:05 PM)

Back in the day... my ex was in the Navy and got a tattoo... right above you know where... said, danger swinging boom.  He never mentioned anyone saying anything. lol  Although he did get arrested and put in the brig for getting a sunburn on a weekend pass. lol




liks2plzlf -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 10:11:06 PM)

When I was in the Marine Corp, we would raze someone about anything, whether a tatoo, or just some dumb thing they did or said. Always in good fun though. We wouldn't if they were sensative about it. Most of my friends still do it. We never let anyone forget any stupid thing they did. It is all fun




LadyPact -> RE: A cutting, from a top's point of view (6/10/2009 11:49:55 PM)

Hello Larry.  It always pleases Me to know real names.

The military has changed quite a bit.  So much more has been learned.  That might be something discussed off of the forum.  Message Me anytime.

Thank you for your contributions here.  I've enjoyed the discussion.






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