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RE: i have a question - 2/13/2006 11:05:27 AM

amayos

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Myself, i say it depends on just how seriously you take the term "slave". If you truely consider yourself owned...then you just await your owner's pleasure. If he/she never speaks to you again, then you just keep waiting.

If you do not consider yourself 100% owned, but only conditionally so, then you wait as long as suits you.

Bingo.

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RE: i have a question - 2/13/2006 11:06:37 AM

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What about a situation where children are also involved and the dominant has created themselves as the primary financial provider? Is the slave allowed to disobey certain orders to maintain a reasonable living situation for the children and themselves?

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RE: i have a question - 2/13/2006 11:37:50 AM

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What about a situation where children are also involved and the dominant has created themselves as the primary financial provider? Is the slave allowed to disobey certain orders to maintain a reasonable living situation for the children and themselves?

Children change everything—unless you just don't care (which is highly irresponsible and unbecoming of a father).

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RE: i have a question - 2/13/2006 1:08:56 PM

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As far as I understand it, when two enter in a relationship it is set, like a contract. If either of the two change something, the whole thing is re-negotiated. Meaning that if I cut contact totally and completely, I can't just walk up a month later and say "Hey, who's the guy in my seat?" If one walks away, the other is under no oblgation to adhere to previous rules.
With children, if the provider no longer with them, the parent has an obligatiion to provide for their children or make sure they are provided for in some way.

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RE: i have a question - 2/13/2006 6:21:00 PM

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All I can say is that if I had a slave with children, I'd expect her to maintain a reasonable living situation for them. In fact, if I were a slave with children and the breadwinner abandoned me, I'd do what had to be done to support my children. I really can't imagine anything else. Of course, dealing with the immediate financial problems in a situation like that is completely separate from coming to grips with the emotional toll.

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

What about a situation where children are also involved and the dominant has created themselves as the primary financial provider? Is the slave allowed to disobey certain orders to maintain a reasonable living situation for the children and themselves?

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RE: i have a question - 2/13/2006 6:34:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

All I can say is that if I had a slave with children, I'd expect her to maintain a reasonable living situation for them. In fact, if I were a slave with children and the breadwinner abandoned me, I'd do what had to be done to support my children. I really can't imagine anything else. Of course, dealing with the immediate financial problems in a situation like that is completely separate from coming to grips with the emotional toll.

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

What about a situation where children are also involved and the dominant has created themselves as the primary financial provider? Is the slave allowed to disobey certain orders to maintain a reasonable living situation for the children and themselves?

I would agree. And frankly I agree that any ethical and responsible person who agreed to be an owner in a relationship would never even HAVE this situation occur- they would have clearly set up "In the event of where I suddenly disappear without a trace..." directions and expectations, AND you would know that they had disappeared because of some highly unlikely situation and NOT because of just cutting and running.

However, from what it sounds like, some people are saying that the slave should continue to act in all ways as if she/he is still owned, even if the owner disappears without a trace and without any guidance on what to do IN such an event.

If the master returned, would the slave be obligated by her consent to be an owned slave to continue the relationship? And if so would the slave be accountable for all mis-doings and disobedience that may have occurred in the process of keeping the children and the slave at a reasonable living conditions?

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RE: i have a question - 2/13/2006 8:00:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

And frankly I agree that any ethical and responsible person who agreed to be an owner in a relationship would never even HAVE this situation occur- they would have clearly set up "In the event of where I suddenly disappear without a trace..." directions and expectations, AND you would know that they had disappeared because of some highly unlikely situation and NOT because of just cutting and running.

Well, yes, I think we all agree that any master who leaves a slave in a situation like this is irresponsible. The only thing that bothered me was that everyone was harping on this point, and I think that missed what the OP was asking about.

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If the master returned, would the slave be obligated by her consent to be an owned slave to continue the relationship? And if so would the slave be accountable for all mis-doings and disobedience that may have occurred in the process of keeping the children and the slave at a reasonable living conditions?

I think that's for each person to decide. There are no laws about masters and slaves and their obligations to each other. I know that if someone walked out of a relationship with me without a word, and then wanted to come back later, I wouldn't do it unless there were a very good reason for her behavior.

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RE: i have a question - 2/14/2006 12:21:35 AM

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Greetings Masters
hope all are well, i have a question for mostly the ones that consider themselfes old gaurd, or Gorean.
Please note i am a slave and i have come you as more of way of seeking an understanding.
If you were a Master who had a slave, even one who carries your mark in the way of a tattoo. but for reasons unknown to her, you have shut all forms of commuciation with, and have basicly left her out on her own dangling. How long would you excpet her to wait or feel like she is part of your life, before she had the right to move on with her life.
thank you take care and be safe
slave no one

I just read your post again, then your profile. My understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you are slave to someone who shut you out, but wife to someone else? I gather you don't live with the Master then but with the husband, in which case, you are not alone and perhaps should speak to your husband about moving on and see what he thinks as the Master has left with no word. I first read this and thought it was a 24/7.. that's my own personal bias, as that's usually what I think of when I think of Master/slave, so my apologies for the misinterpretation. I 'know' there are dynamics in which Master/slave don't live together, but it's a bit difficult to wrap my brains around it. I was thinking of something very different this whole time.

For Master/slave in this situation, I would say you have the right to move on, but should move on, if the communication has truly vanished, when your heart tells you it's time to move on and don't worry about a time frame for it. When you are ready, that's when you do it.

Good luck to you.. I wish you well,

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RE: i have a question - 2/14/2006 10:35:44 AM

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If you guys actually been together off an on or he lives close to you and then for no good reason he stop chatting or having any contact with you. I would say he is married and has broken off all contact with you because his wife is about to find out or going through something. If he is a true Master he would keep the lines of communication open. This is my opinion and from what you say this is what comes to my mind. There are so many who go out of town and on business trips and in the lifestyle and the wife did not know any thing about it. I have talked with so many who found out later these guys were married and lied to them. I would send him an e mail requesting to be release and if he does not respond back in a timely manner then consider yourself release. Not knowing what happen is the hardest thing about trying to do the right thing. Be safe and well. Hoosier Scorpio.

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RE: i have a question - 2/27/2006 2:41:57 PM

MasterDaddy123

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Once she has become owned as a slave, she is her Master's property until HE decides otherwise.

What I guess I need to know is, is the Master still even alive? Still in the lifestyle?

This is a strange scenario. Contact your Master if you can. If you cannot, I would assume you free by default.

Its like property law as you are His chattel. Maybe He has abandoned you. Like any other form of property, maybe He has left you unleashed to be taken by any one who comes along and finds you...like an umbrella left at a restaurant.

Is there an actual title of ownership? There is with My slaves.

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