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Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 12:00:45 AM   
Manja


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My submissiveness has always fucked with me because it is so selective. It only relates to sex.

No, I am not the type (and they do exist) who acts all dominant in everyday life to overcompensate for feelings of submissiveness. I am not saying there is anything wrong with these people, I am just using it as a contrast. I am still trying to figure myself out.

I do not go thru life dominant, yet I easily deflect those who try to be dominant towards me in all walks of life. I am supremely confidant, and am often the lead in group activities, in a purely natural way because I am always ready to DO things. This causes many that I know to look at me as a "leader" type. They have no idea what gets me off sexually, and they would probably never believe it. What I am trying to say is that I am neither dominant or submissive in everyday life, I am always just me, and those who try to be dominant with me in business of elswhere get deflected with ease. But when it comes to sexual excitement, I become this whole other person who craves someone who knows how to be truly dominant. The fact that this desire is so selective, and so compartmentalized, has fucked with me for a long time. I guess it makes me more of a "role player" than a genuine submissive, for after the orgasm - the feeling goes away completely. I do not rebel against it any more, but I still dont get it. When I am in the mood, it is real, however. I become genuinely submissive and can endure a great many things for long periods, and I love it. It is strictly in the sexual sphere.

I understand it as an ability and desire to dip into widely disparate natures within myself. I have heard the ideas that people who are generally strong and dominating in general life have submissive streaks, sort of like the idea the Hitler, behind closed doors, liked to grovel to women. There is a story where he did this to the wife of one of his followers, and that he actually said "I want to be your slave" to her. Who knows? Either way, stories like this actually helped me a little while growing up - reconciling my own ambitious and athouritative nature with my own submissive streak. If we worship power, why not worship it in all forms? I can be the power in my daily life, yet experience the power of someone else (even if I am projecting it onto them - my own concept of power onto another human body) behind closed doors. I still see it in this way.

I just wanted to hear other opinions on it. I know I am not the only version of this.

I have been with people who try to be dominant with me, and it just doesnt work. The fact that I can so easily walk away underlines how in control I am, and destroys the illusion I seem to need for sexual release. I have been with some who are so natural with it. They do not yell, or threaten, or bombasticaly try to prove how in control they are. They are calm about it. They give me their commands in a quiet voice, and they are so confident that all my submission comes out and wants to do everything they tell me to do. This is calm power, like the eye of a hurricane, and it is real to me. I have known ecstatic heights submitting to such true dominants. Yet very few have had this magic with me. Therefore, I can only conclude, that my submissive nature is highly selective.

I know that some submissives feel it all the time. When I am not in the mood, it does not even exist to me, and I forget. When I am in the mood, it consumes me. Anyone else like this? How do you deal with it?

Manja
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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 12:05:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Manja
I just wanted to hear other opinions on it. I know I am not the only version of this.


You're right. In some, submissiveness is the very air they breathe; in others, submission is when they feel submissive, and every combination between.

No one way is better than any other. The trick is to find someone whose dominant style complements your submissive style.

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 12:26:55 AM   
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quote:

I know that some submissives feel it all the time. When I am not in the mood, it does not even exist to me, and I forget. When I am in the mood, it consumes me. Anyone else like this? How do you deal with it?


Manja, in all seriousness, it sounds like you're having a really good time. Hell, everyone uses BDSM as they see fit and if it's something that works for you, go with it, enjoy it. You don't have to 'be' anything. You are no more nor less than anyone else and if you embrace something in the bedroom with certain people, but don't want it carried further than that, that's all perfectly fine. If you only feel it sometimes, that's all good too. You have only yourself to please, and if you choose, a Dominant when it suits you. So, you get consumed by it when it hits you and others feel that way all the time. Well, they don't pay your bills and you don't have to answer to them. Most of the submissives who I know personally feel the same way you do. They don't submit to every Dom, Dick and Harry.. only to the select few or one who can feed their needs.

You're fine, Manja. Enjoy the hell outta life.

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 12:32:54 AM   
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Thank you, Celeste. You are right, of course. It is just that I have never discussed this kind of thing so openly before. I just discovered this site a few days ago, so I had to let out what I had bottled up. I already agree with you.

I am enjoying life to an incredible degree. I think I am also (having just discovered this site) looking for new dominant people who I can be compatible with, and to learn from as many people as I can. This site is an incredible turn on to me. Your pic is beautiful, BTW.

Manja

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 12:46:02 AM   
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Your pic is beautiful, BTW.


Aw, that's very sweet. Thank you so much. :)

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 1:19:31 AM   
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Manja,

That's EXACTLY how I feel. You aren't alone.

I had trouble at first thinking of myself as a "real" submissive, but then thought, hey, this is how it's gonna be for me. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.

And as Celeste said, it sure does sound like youre having fun, so,
rock on, girl.

CT

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 1:26:14 AM   
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Thank you Crazytwice. I truly appreciate the feedback. I am on a quest of self doscovery here, and each and every one of you are helping me understand myself, as far as I am concerned.

I am a guy, BTW, but no matter. I actually feel that my sexual persona is a bi-sexual female. I love women and men, but as a woman. I like women as a lesbian does, and men as a woman does. Sexually I always feel like a woman, but in the rest of my life, I am as male as it gets. This is my dilemma. It does not actually fit well together, but it is my reality, and I must make it work.

Manja

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 1:38:39 AM   
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oops.. sorry. one time i don't check the profile and see what happens.

so, in that case, rock on, dude

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 1:52:40 AM   
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It isn't what would work for me, but that is the beauty of all this. It doesn't have too. As others have said it is about finding people that complement what you want and need, finding a situation that works for you.

Good luck

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 6:35:46 AM   
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You sound pretty well-adjusted and content to me, Manja. Go with it.

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 7:14:44 AM   
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After a lot of research, I have found the submissive who doesn't 'seem' submissive more the 'norm' (please don't flame me!) than the rule...

When I first told a friend about my feelings, and what I want/need...she told me there was 'no way' I am submissive. Little does she know...

I think many of us have a 'trigger' that turns that submissive side on...or...brings it to the forefront, possibly... For some of us, that could be a phrase, or a certain look in the eye... Not every dom(me) is going to flip that trigger. (thank goodness!) But certain ones will...

Good luck, and welcome to the forums!

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 9:54:26 AM   
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my trigger is when my Master is on my mind.....which is always.

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 10:30:57 AM   
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I'm the same exact way! I consider myself a sexual submissive and it works for me. It's good to hear I'm not the only one who can so easily walk away from it also. I love being submissive it's a big part of who I am, but it's hard to find someone who understand what kind of submissive I am. Oh well, there has to be someone out there. Good luck and thanks for the nice post :)

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/11/2006 1:40:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnWarren
In some, submissiveness is the very air they breathe; in others, submission is when they feel submissive, and every combination between.



I once explained the failure of one of my D/s relationships by saying "There was enough domination to keep me breathing but not enough to make me breathless..."

John, you're so correct when you say that we all have a different level of need for this lifestyle. For those of us who have a deep, constant need the search is probably going to take a long, hard time...But my mom warned me that the best things in life don't come easy, and she was right. (As always, dang it!)

As for the OP, I know some people would be more inclined to suspect I was a domme unless they'd actually seen me in the presence of a dominant man...Human beings are wonderful, complex creatures...or...to quote The Bard:

O what a Piece of Work is Man...

Cin

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/12/2006 6:55:17 PM   
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I just joined in on this site and I have to say what a great post with great responses. Manja you managed to say just about everything I feel about my own 'submissive-ness'.

I too am a leader in most 'roles' and areas of life. Same as Manja, not exactly always the 'boss' or overcompensating my everyday A type personality, by being a 'sub'... But it quite naturally occurs with the one select man/D I've been spending my life and time with. It's quite an incredible 'space' to be in, he as a D and I as a sub, it has truly became 'our world'. We started off as friends, lovers and partners who share a parenting role, and we've advanced beyond that as Dom/sub and only further enlightened our connection and bond. I doubt I would be so 'sub' for just anyone, not that I'd ever find out either, he and I are for a lifetime. But again, Manja like you, I am selective and there is a 'time and place' for d/s activities and 'roles'.

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/12/2006 8:12:05 PM   
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My submission also different. I am ONLY submissive to my Dragon. To my kitten, I am a Domme. But yet... I do not think of myself as a switch... I do not try to be dominant in anyway with Dragon. I am always submission when acting with or being with Dragon. kitten is our submission... I am not submission to her.

Confusing enough??

1st Girl Phoenix

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RE: Selective Submission? - 2/12/2006 8:55:40 PM   
Manja


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Thanks to all for participating in this thread. I am digging it! This site is a dream come true for me.

Manja

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