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North vs. South - 6/14/2009 9:45:21 AM   
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Do you identify as a Northerner or someone from the North or a Southerner or someone from the South? Or do you identify as being from somewhere other than North or South? What makes it so? And how does your culture differ from that in other regions? How do you perceive those from the North and/or those from the South?

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 9:50:53 AM   
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I'm in the US and know nothing about north/south as it applied to any other country.

I'm a Westerner.  To me, the north/south stuff loses its validity somewhere west of Ohio.  I've lived in Utah, New Mexico, and Colorado and feel comfortable.  Something about the mountains, dry air, lack of humidity.  I lived in Maine for two years and just felt out of place there.


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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 9:51:42 AM   
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I dont think many in the North think about it.    Really.   Personally I see an urban vs rural tension, more then the north south.  BUT- from a southerner- I am pretty sure there is a resentment- or more to the point.  "mind your own business" in so far as yankees are concerned.   I do believe that all politics is local- and firmly believe in local control.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 9:54:58 AM   
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I identify as an Urban Girl.

NewYork is where Id rather stay
I get allergic smelling hay
I just adore a pent house view
Dahling I love you
But give me park avenue"

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 9:57:55 AM   
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I identify as an Urban Girl.

NewYork is where Id rather stay
I get allergic smelling hay
I just adore a pent house view
Dahling I love you
But give me park avenue



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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 10:53:10 AM   
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I'm in the North right now.
Yes, I will tease/flirt with people about them living in the South. Since I can't keep the smile off my face, no one has ever been offended. It's not like we trade insults, just tease. Cos really overall it seems usually people are just regular ole people.

I lived in the West for awhile  -loved it- lol, this ? probably never would be asked or thought of out there. As the other poster said ~ the West is laid back. Other things are going on, like great weather, sunshine, Mtns.!!!, and lol don't everyone move out there now...!

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 11:12:25 AM   
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I'm West Mercian - and the odd thing is that its an identity determined not from within but by distinction against other regions.

As far as the southeast is concerned, we're northerners since we'd really rather not be identified with "lager drinking poofs"

As far as the southwest is concerned, we're northerners too, but not because we dont like the south west people (after all, theyre charming and fun and have such nice caravan parks) but because they come across a bit backwards, you know?

As far as the Welsh are concerned, we're Midlanders - and dont them 'em forget it!

As for the north, well theyre all rough as fxxk and twice as thick or theyre into whippets and flat caps and all that, and we'd really rather be drinking lager with "them poofs" than actually be associated with them.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 11:12:40 AM   
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quote:

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Do you identify as a Northerner or someone from the North or a Southerner or someone from the South? Or do you identify as being from somewhere other than North or South? What makes it so?


North or south? Hell, Stella, I don't even identify as an American. I'm just a guy who happens to live in America because he was born here, and if I was born somewhere else I'd probably be living there. Beyond that, Minnesota is the part of America where I happen to live, but only because I happen to have been born 200 miles from here and I like the area so much this is where I seem to keep coming back to. I don't identify as anything except a pleasant, shy man who lives in the woods, spends most of his time alone, and wouldn't have it any other way. North and south can just leave me the hell alone.



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And how does your culture differ from that in other regions? How do you perceive those from the North and/or those from the South?


As others have pointed out, in today's America the cultural divide does not fall so simply along the lines of north and south. America's become too homogenized. People move around too much now, and they take their politics and their socio-cultural backgrounds with them. Urban/rural and east/west/midwest/deep south would probably allow for more accurate categorizations, but even within those brackets you'd have to allow for northeastern vs. southeastern, pacific rim vs. mountain states, and prairie states vs. industrial midwest. And probably several more that I'm just not considering at the moment.

I often do, however, see regional differences on a smaller scale, such as in comparing individual states. My own area, Minnesota, has a "personality" that's very different than, say, Southern California. People in Minnesota tend to be very reserved, very insular, not very warm or outgoing. On a personal level, they generally live very much inside their own worlds, and don't have a lot of genuine interest in what's going on more than ten feet outside of it. In a way, that's to my advantage, because they generally don't bother me and it's easy to avoid them and mind my own business. But it's also one of the things I like the least about it, because I really enjoy being around a more open, gregarious, outward-thinking environment, which is one of the things I love about California and Hawaii, where I have also lived. The pace moves much more slowly in Minnesota than in other, more urban areas  - such as Chicago, or the Northeastern urban megaplex - and there's a very high priority placed on environmental issues here, much higher than in most other parts of the country. Clean air, clean water, open space, and the freedom to get out and live in it is woven deeply into the fabric of our culture here in the Upper Midwest, and that's probably the single thing that's kept me here and kept me coming back for most of my life thus far.




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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 11:19:54 AM   
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i was born and rasied in Michigan, i have lived in the Virginia Beach area for 25 years. i am told i'm a "damn yankee" Apparently a yankee is one from the north who visits the south, and a damn yankee is a northerner that STAYS! LOL

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 11:25:38 AM   
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Stella, are you asking from a UK perspective or an American perspective?  Or both? 

I live in the Southern US and definitely identify myself as a "Southerner."  There are quite a few differences (both good and bad) between the Southern culture and the rest of the country...although typically, we Southerners compare ourselves mostly to Northerners.  :)

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 11:27:09 AM   
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Here in the states when i was in Chicago i NEVER thought about it lol.  grins, however, some people were hillbillies.  However, here in TN, it seems like many people are focused on the North and the South.  I am simply a transplant who talks to fast for the south and too slow for the North now lol.  I can't win either way.

How do i identify, i am a city girl and Nashville is still very much the country to me lol.  However, one thing that still freaks me out is that people in Nashville are way to friendly for comfort for someone who grew up in Chicago lol. Oh and they use miles to say how far something is instead of time lol. 

As an aside, Chicago has the Northsiders and the southsiders.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 11:34:41 AM   
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I align myself more along the Marvel-DC axis than anything else. SECULAR, SOCIAL COMMENTARY STORIES AND CHARACTERS FOR LIFE, YO!

But no, seriously. I don't notice too much North-South division in my circles here in Knoxville, but I don't hang out with mainstream folks too much. My friends are all gaming geeks, theater fags, political activists, academic philosophers; Nobody really pays attention to the normal axes of North-South or Urban-Rural. We divide and distinguish ourselves, of course, but it's along more nuanced and diverse lines.


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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 11:38:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bamabbwsub

Stella, are you asking from a UK perspective or an American perspective?  Or both? 



Both... merely out of curiosity..

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 11:44:27 AM   
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If you approach the riddle from a civil war- perspective-  logically the states the send more cash to Washington then they get back will be the first to secede.

There is a ton of animosity both on the left and the right that I see both sides pulling for more states rights.  The danger in any of it- is can the government- fed- state or local organize much of anything.  To which the answer is no.

When in doubt- follow the money.    I note that by some odd fate banks in Israel have no failures.  Not like the globe over. IS this a co-incidence?   or are they simply just more versed in money management then the world in general.

Of course blaming an individual or group based on that is premature... but in ANY scandal- they say- to follow the money.    No doubt that the above is NOT  the total boondoggle as we can throw blame to the Vatican, The Queen, and the Rothschild s,  and the 13 banking families that own the federal reserve in America.

Man are we screwed!

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 11:46:30 AM   
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As far as the Welsh are concerned, we're Midlanders


I live in Wales ... that's not the popular term here !

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 11:58:14 AM   
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       Neither of the above.  I've lived the overwhelming majority of my life within a couple hundred miles or so of the Pacific Ocean (including several years on the other side of it), and the whole north/south thing has nothing to do with me.

      

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 12:30:09 PM   
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To me...north and south in America is a recognition of heritage not of a different ideology...at least with most. I am from Missouri a mixed state during the Civil War but my ancestry is S. Carolina. On a recent visit to a family plantation near Abbeville a discussion came up about THE war. In my ignorance I asked if they were talking about WWII... No I was told the war always refers to the War Between the States...the answer given with a look of reproach.

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 12:39:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Here in the states when i was in Chicago i NEVER thought about it lol.  grins, however, some people were hillbillies.  However, here in TN, it seems like many people are focused on the North and the South.  I am simply a transplant who talks to fast for the south and too slow for the North now lol.  I can't win either way.

How do i identify, i am a city girl and Nashville is still very much the country to me lol.  However, one thing that still freaks me out is that people in Nashville are way to friendly for comfort for someone who grew up in Chicago lol. Oh and they use miles to say how far something is instead of time lol. 

As an aside, Chicago has the Northsiders and the southsiders.

angel


We were SOUTH -side here.  My sister married a guy from the North side.  he is still recovering!      

For those who aren't aware  the North side tends to be richer- more affluent.   You could peg the steel mills to the south side and Gary IN.    So the South side had a lot of working class, and to a point had more blacks then the north for a long time.     

Some of the priciest homes are on the North shore.  But for the money- you get more on the South side.   

My sister says they have more class up north.  So who knows.   I do know that we had some great dance parties right in the Lake at belmont Rocks.    during the 80s.

boogie check!!!!

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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 12:43:02 PM   
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Chuckles, well Bridgeport is where we hail from -- however, i also hail from Loyola lol GO CUBBIES!!!  But if you every state i said soo --- i will deny deny deny!



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RE: North vs. South - 6/14/2009 12:54:53 PM   
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Chuckles, well Bridgeport is where we hail from -- however, i also hail from Loyola lol GO CUBBIES!!!  But if you every state i said soo --- i will deny deny deny!




we might have passed each other!    I used to take the bus Harlem to Archer-63rd- then to downtown.  Birdgeport.  That was Polish for the longest time I dont know if it still is.

The family moved further out- Orland Park-/ and Will county- which is getting fairly built up these days.   Odd- like I can recall as a kid- Orland Square opened. but like I dont know the roads there.    (other then the Pulaski, Cicero, Central, Ridgeland, Harlem, Lagrange,   or you could call it Manhieim, and Crawford (not Pulsaski)

I spend alot of time on Harlem- 111th to 135th.  and 111th from Lagrange to Pulaski- to 115th.    I do notice a difference when I go back.  The place is more crowde.  Single family now 2 units- often outside of code.  No parking signs everywhere. 

Man  we did not have lights on Harlem- from 115th to rout 83.   Cal sag was polluted- now "water front property" gags. yeah right guy.

One thing I can say- is people will talk to you on a bus there.   interesting people.  Not snobby like some east coast cities.

Go CUBS!

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