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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 5:35:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: darkangel6989

This girl is very confused so she decided to write about it and maybe just maybe get some responses. But this girl thinks she might anger some female dominants, hmmm W/we will see.

Did A/anyone ever notice how female dominates always have a front, the way they present themselves as “big”, their outfits, the leather, the front on how “dominant” they really are. Says who?

It’s like you can’t really get to the core of who they really are. Says who?

The thing is if you found out who they really were you’d find that females were made to be submissive to males. Says who?

That is biologically speaking though, not what the world/ society has taught women. the world has taught women that they must be strong, independent, that being sexually attractive to a male is slutty (in a bad way), that submitting to males is wrong… that males must not show who they really are sexually. Since when? In nature it is the female of the species that determine what male breeds with her....thus the female holds the power over the male.

Everything about females identifies that she is made to please men. The way her body is made weaker than a male. the way her face is shaped, breasts, the body shape, her ass….. just everything, the way she is made in every way. females are NOT made equal to Males and that is a fact. Bullshit. Many males are exist to please other males.

When you try to prove differently you are grasping at straws that society has taught you not what is actually true biologically and what is truly in female’s human nature. A female once finding her true nature and is bound will find true happiness and bliss that she will not find anywhere else, and if she loses her bindings she will chase after them forever. a Male however will always fight those binds and run fast away from them once freed. i hate when people fight their basic human structure. I hate when there are no facts to prove this drivel.

I will never understand women domination and I am not meant to understand it because it is not right. End of story you can try to prove me wrong but you will be sharing with me what society has taught you. BTW....fixed several of your incorrect punctuation.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 5:38:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: Orlando2801

Steel,

If you take issue with my statement, why don't you bother to reply to me directly instead of in the general forum, as I mentioned?

I do encourage her to express her opinions. I own her, so I have that right. Perhaps you prefer your slave to simply parrot what you tell her?

Actions do have consequences, and for you to assume that I wish to protect her from the consequences of her actions is false. If she says or does something I disagree with, that is for me to deal with, nobody else.

Here's some friendly advice for you: I have many more years in the lifestyle than you do, so I recommend you tread lightly when trying to tell another Master how to handle his slave.

Well, since you didn't like Steel's approach, I'll take My turn.

It seems to Me the issue is that your girl decided to bring herself to a public forum and chose to be insulting. She is entitled to her opinion, but she's not entitled to be rude. I don't know how you handle your affairs, but if My sub chose to do such a thing, disrespecting others and bringing shame to Me, I can promise you there would be hell to pay. Then again, the fault would be My own for failing to educate him properly. If she had questions about female Dominance, she should have brought her questions to you before making you look like you didn't know how to guide her in such matters.

Your girl doesn't know the many well respected Dominant females that are on these forums. In her wondrous expression of her opinion as fact, she probably won't have the opportunity to do so for a while. That's her loss as well as yours. I'm sure many have already formed our opinions.

ETA: Another thing you might teach her. The leather culture isn't a males only club, either. Perhaps she'll "get it" when she meets some folks who fit that criteria as well.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 5:41:54 AM

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I am not a dominant woman. I am submissive.From reading your OP, I have to say you argue for your own limitations. None of what you speak of applies to me, yet to try to point it out to you would be worthless. You only see what you wish to see and have chosen to box yourself in.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 5:46:42 AM

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Did A/anyone ever notice how female dominates always have a front, the way they present themselves as “big”, their outfits, the leather, the front on how “dominant” they really are. It’s like you can’t really get to the core of who they really are.

Whether one is female, dominant, male or submissive, I’m pretty sure we all have a front and a back! But seriously, what you seem to be saying here is that female dominants are ‘faking it’. Do you personally know any dominant women? Have you actually put any thought into this belief of yours? Does it really hold up under scrutiny? As fallible humans we all have our own prejudices but a wise person will examine them and acknowledge that our feelings may not be based in truth. For example, have you considered same sex couples? Are you saying 2 men or 2 women cannot be in a D/s or M/s dynamic? Are they 'faking it' as well?

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females are NOT made equal to Males and that is a fact.

The fact is no one is equal to anyone else; we all are different in many ways, we all have our unique strengths and weaknesses. This has nothing to do with who should or should not, can or cannot, be dominant.

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But this girl thinks she might anger some female dominants,

So you recognized that your words probably would be offensive to a specific group of people, and yet you chose to present your thoughts anyway. One wonders why you would do that and what you hoped to accomplish.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 5:48:43 AM

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People who think Dominance comes down to physical strength, size, shape whatever... would probably also vote for apes to rule the world.

My body is made to be PLEASURED by a man, more like, lol

Thats why men have the functional bits and pieces for reproducing, whereas Woman can actually have a little more fun than base in out motions with a twiglet.

I didnt read the whole thread, as I am a busy Woman what with the queues of male subs fighting their inner Doms and all - but I will say that mentally Women have been beating men for years. In all senses.

I hope the man behind the female ghost writer goes off and has a good sulk, so that he does not fight against his natural tendencies as a male. And if you do decide to sit it out in the naughty cave for a while, make yourself useful and decorate it whilst youre in there. Good boy.

[edited because I am in the habit of typing with slippery fingers...]

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 5:49:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

As do I. I always admire people who accept their own limitations. So many times, we see people on these forums trying to make an impression on others by pretending to be much smarter than they really are. You have my respect for not trying to do that.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 5:50:54 AM

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Wow... I take -one- night off to watch a movie with my stepdaughter (who is leaving for Chicago for art college on Sunday) and here you all go having a philosophical rant without me!

Hrumph... and I suppose it's too late to insert my dime and get my fortune, huh?

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 5:52:37 AM

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Well if only dominant women are big, then looking at her picture she's obviously a domme who hasn't come to grips with her true self. Er twue self I meant to say.

And she opened that box of worms, I'm just commenting on it.

Talk about people who couldn't get a clue if hit by a clue by four!

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 6:10:03 AM

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Hey I have never needed a safe word during cybersex either, unless I really had to pee :P

Holy Cannoli.... twice in one morning. I -have- to stop with the coffee during this thread. Now I'm going to be smelling coffee the entire damned day!

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 7:07:19 AM

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Well if only dominant women are big, then looking at her picture she's obviously a domme who hasn't come to grips with her true self.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 7:25:51 AM

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I'm sorry I went to bed last night....geez.....I missed all this?

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 7:26:33 AM

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This whole thread is the funniest thing I have read in a while.

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ORIGINAL: Orlando2801

I am the op's Master, and I wonder why so many poster's feel the need to tear her down for what she posted. Contrary to popular belief, I did not tell her, order her or make her post what she wrote. She did it on her own.

The girl has her own thoughts and feelings, and I encourage her to express them.

For those of you who disagree with what she posted, good for you, because for whatever reason you have a bone to pick with what she wrote. From what I've read they've been nothing but baseless attacks.

For those of you who feel that I, her Master, put her up to this, I invite you to write to me directly so we can discuss the matter in private. I don't walk away from any challenge, so I welcome all comers. Bring it on....

Lets say for a second I actually believed this wasn't just a trolling exercise, then yes, learning how to express opinions is great! But, you have a long way to go in your tutelage. May I politely suggest teaching her the following:

To employ a more logical and critical thought process.
How to form and express an opinion.
To seek authoritative evidence to back up claims made, particularly when making them public.
Ranting is not an opinion.
Spouting rhetoric is not the same as stating facts.
When seeking answers, it helps to ask questions.
When it comes to emotion and human psychology, there isn't a universal 'truth'.
Going into a public venue to seek validation for some shockingly misinformed, controversial beliefs, and doing so in a crude and attacking way exhibits social ineptitude.
Going into a forum to bait people into a retort is consider trolling.
State beliefs publicly (and arrogantly) and people will respond.

But perhaps your first lesson, for the sake of both hers and your credibility, might be to teach her that when applying science and biology to an argument, she may want to have, at least a basic understanding of the tool she is using. Perhaps having her enjoy some light reading of relevant authoritative science journals would be your next prudent move – as well as giving her some insight into the actual subject, it will help develop a more critical thinking process into that naïve brain.

He wouldn't, but if my sub went into a public venue and acted the way yours did, I would be mortified – even if I agreed with what was said. He can have and express any opinion he pleases, but he has the intelligence and maturity to do so with grace, civility and respect for others. Good luck with your handful.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 7:33:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: Orlando2801

Steel,

If you take issue with my statement, why don't you bother to reply to me directly instead of in the general forum, as I mentioned?

Why should he? First of all, that's not what you asked people to do. You asked people to write you in private if they thought you were the one who put your girl up to posting this flamebait, and his post said nothing at all about that issue. Perhaps you, like your girl, need to brush up a bit on your written communication skills. It doesn't reflect well on either of you when you say something quite specific, then express surprise or disappointment when people take it for exactly what you said.

Second, if you join a discussion in a public forum, you can expect people to continue the discussion in public. So if your girl says something offensive and insulting in public, you're usually not going to be able to take the easy way out by asking that the predictable reaction be hiddden away in private e-mails. Can't have it both ways.

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ORIGINAL: Orlando2801
Here's some friendly advice for you: I have many more years in the lifestyle than you do, so I recommend you tread lightly when trying to tell another Master how to handle his slave.

Since we're all giving out friendly advice, let me offer a bit of my own. Respect is measured not by how many years someone has been involved in the lifestyle, but how much they've learned in however many years they've been around. By that measure, I'd say you could learn a hell of a lot by listening to Steel.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 7:35:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: darkangel6989
Did A/anyone ever notice how female dominates always have a front, the way they present themselves as “big”, their outfits, the leather, the front on how “dominant” they really are.

This is Kevin isn't it??

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 7:40:17 AM

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I can't believe I missed that!

Too funny, Wanders!

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 7:44:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: darkangel6989
the thing is i have not gotten one reply to my post that has meaning to it, just a mere way of putting me down for my beliefs…. none of you have given me any reason to gain any information in way what so ever. i don’t understand that in the least…

When you conclude your post by saying, "i will never understand women domination and i am not meant to understand it because it is not right. End of story you can try to prove me wrong but you will be sharing with me what society has taught you", what sort of "meaningful response" do you expect? What you basically said was, "I know I'm right, and anyone who disagrees with me is just repeating the propaganda they were taught when they were brainwashed." You made it very clear you weren't trying to "gain information," so why should anyone try to offer you any?

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ORIGINAL: darkangel6989
maybe i’ll get clearer and less attacking posts, i’m not sure though because the content on CM seems to be lacking… i have met some very interesting and amazing people but they have been few and far between…

Actually, you've met quite a few interesting and amazing people right here in this thread. What a pity you don't seem to have noticed that.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 7:48:48 AM

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Inquiring Minds Want to Know.

The thing I'd most like to know from the two of them is, just exactly how much shelf space is required to house the complete works of John Norman? I've often wondered, and now we seem to have someone on the forum who can actually give us a definitive answer.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 7:59:42 AM

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This thread has really made my Friday morning! Thank you ALL for your contributions, I've been reading it off and on since about 5:30am and it probably saved the life of a twit at Access Energy (long story about a misprocessed check of mine). I was alternately on and off hold with Access and the bank. During the long hold periods, I've been reading and laughing. I am sure Courtney should be eternally grateful to all of you.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 8:08:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: Orlando2801

I am the op's Master, and I wonder why so many poster's feel the need to tear her down for what she posted. Contrary to popular belief, I did not tell her, order her or make her post what she wrote. She did it on her own.

The girl has her own thoughts and feelings, and I encourage her to express them.

For those of you who disagree with what she posted, good for you, because for whatever reason you have a bone to pick with what she wrote. From what I've read they've been nothing but baseless attacks.

For those of you who feel that I, her Master, put her up to this, I invite you to write to me directly so we can discuss the matter in private. I don't walk away from any challenge, so I welcome all comers. Bring it on....

That is all well and good. Now you will hear this. She brought it to the boards. If she cannot deal with the outcomes and if you are not welcoming of people disagreeing then there is now nothing that you can do to alter that.
She was callous, insulting and rude. She was condemning and she looked down on others preferences.
Had I done the same as her, I would be an embaressment to my Master.

She is a reflection of you, regardless if they are her words and thoughts. Regardless if you accept that or not.

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RE: Dominant women - 6/19/2009 8:22:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Oh don't come off all victim here! You said things were final in many of your opinions.. such as.. end of story! This is the way it is! It doesn't matter how you say that really... you let us know there was no changing your mind and that was the way it was, end of story.

You were not asking questions. You had no humble to you. You weren't even nice. Don't play poor misunderstood victim now!

Well, at least she capitalized the H in her sig line so she DOES listen!