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MilkerforOne -> age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 4:34:25 AM)

I have had a sight on looking for a MAster/Dom
the right one for me
Had over 596 that were over the age of 50 all wanting a child
lots though I am too old.

My question is why such a thing for the very young and skinny only for the older men? Is it just for show on their arm. Most of these have no idea of real life nor anything in common with the older men, unless they all want to feel like they are screwing young ones makes them feel young themselves as showing they can get a young one.

Do they not know that most see them as a free ride only. where and what happens to the older subs and slaves is that why they have all become bi and lez as the men do not see the true worth of age just young and if so do we younger ones also get thrown away if we stay in the life as we age?

Where has our thinking gone?
Love and homor respect and devotion does not have age posted on it's forhead.
Precious relationships ae passed by because of a number in age?
Yet the men do not realize what happens as threy grow older quickly and that 30 plus younger sub starts wanting more than an old man? Who may be ill and not able to even have sex after 60 and they have put all this time trainng their young one for the next younger than he.

And don't act like no one know what I am talking about never seen so many Domme's in my time?
Then Young Domme's playing at being sub to get a man they think might have something and keep them so they don't have to work.
Once a domme always a domme.
Once the mindseto of a sub.slave oit is alwasys there no matter whay you try to turn yourself into
You cannot be for 15 to 20 years and flip with out tearing something out of yourself

There are so many middle aged women turning to Domme, that were slave and sub at heart to just have a place in this life style and most are doing so to hunt for an older Master and are getting a bi or lez lover for themselves. Shame is on the master/doms that are creating this situation,,,,,,,,,,,not real Master/Doms but trophy hunters only. And soon you will be the one put aside in 10 years.
Just look around how many are actually here after 60



KatyLied -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 4:46:58 AM)

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Then Young Domme's playing at being sub to get a man they think might have something and keep them so they don't have to work. Once a domme always a domme.


Interesting. I've had more than ond Dom tell me that all Dommes have a bit of sub in them. I don't know if that's envy or jealousy speaking, but it always makes me laugh.



FTopinMichigan -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 5:31:41 AM)

Interesting, indeed...for a rant and a bit of a ramble.

I do find it interesting that many of the people that rant about age, and complain that they are too old, are usually quite young themselves. The OP's profile shows 36. I wasn't aware that was over the hill.

K<---not "playing" at anything



MHOO314 -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 5:42:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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Then Young Domme's playing at being sub to get a man they think might have something and keep them so they don't have to work. Once a domme always a domme.


Interesting. I've had more than ond Dom tell me that all Dommes have a bit of sub in them. I don't know if that's envy or jealousy speaking, but it always makes me laugh.




I find that the majority of the Dom wannabes and the hmm how can I say this--arrogant, asshole, male supremist Doms believe one good session with a "real man" and "we" women will come to our senses---PUHLEEZ--it becomes a male over female issue not one of respect for Dominance versus submission.






IrishMist -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 5:44:29 AM)

Ok, I admit to being confused. I read this 3 times and I still can not make sense out of what he/she is trying to say.

/shakes head

Way too early for deep thinking.



DelRey -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 6:14:21 AM)

Honey,
You need to tone down the coolaid your on or up your medication.

Your profile says your owned property, so what with the stress?
It also says “your trying to understand humans” What???? LOL. I would rather just be a human and try to under stand Spanish or dolphins or some other shit.

As to your snibbling about men wanting younger thinner women, welcome to planet earth. Why do think humans including women want a newer (younger) car, boat, house in the burbs, blue jeans or anything else? Because they look good and feel good and it’s what they desire. It’s a preference that is all.

As to your statement of the sub exodus going Dom, WTF are you talking about ? I have not read one post or profile that said, “I quit, I’m going to be a Dom because you men that want young women that take care of them selves.” NOT ONE !

I’m thinking something else has you dander up and you have run off on another tangent. (your post).

Please, please let that medication stabilize in your body before your next post. And I only say that because I love ya and I respect ya.
Really I do.

Hugs

Del Rey



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 6:37:56 AM)

Yes. they want a hot little trophy they can leash and walk around the dungeons.

Tough luck for everyone else.



Lordandmaster -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 7:04:14 AM)

I don't think it's that. A lot of dommes I've known HAVE had some sub in them. I'm not sure why that is, but it's something I've definitely noticed. Some are dommes who say they want to "just try the other side" (although they end up trying it and trying it and trying it ... at which point it's no longer just "trying"); others aren't really dommes, more like switches; others are lifestyle dommes who feel the need to submit.

Obviously, I'm not saying that ALL dommes are really subs waiting to be discovered. Just reporting my experience. (And a few of you dommes on CM, who will remain nameless, know what I mean.)

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ORIGINAL: MHOO314

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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Then Young Domme's playing at being sub to get a man they think might have something and keep them so they don't have to work. Once a domme always a domme.


Interesting. I've had more than ond Dom tell me that all Dommes have a bit of sub in them. I don't know if that's envy or jealousy speaking, but it always makes me laugh.



I find that the majority of the Dom wannabes and the hmm how can I say this--arrogant, asshole, male supremist Doms believe one good session with a "real man" and "we" women will come to our senses---PUHLEEZ--it becomes a male over female issue not one of respect for Dominance versus submission.




justatoy2 -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 7:30:35 AM)

what does it really matter if a Dom wants a trophy slut. Thats their preference. Obviously the trophy slut is quite happy with being with the old man. I never try to understand the mating rituals of the human race. People are attracted to what they are attracted to. What i don't understand is if you are owned..why this bothers you so much? Scratches my head at why it matters. And from my own personal experience. I am 37. I have had plenty of 50+ doms interested in me. In fact most of them thought intially i was younger than i am. So they didn't want to pursue me because they thought i was too young. I am not the most beautiful women, nor do i have the best body...but i am fun and outgoing and that seems to attract the right kind of man. It really isn't all about looks. Trust me on that.



MysticalPhoenix -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 7:39:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MilkerforOne

My question is why such a thing for the very young and skinny only for the older men? Is it just for show on their arm. Most of these have no idea of real life nor anything in common with the older men, unless they all want to feel like they are screwing young ones makes them feel young themselves as showing they can get a young one.

Do they not know that most see them as a free ride only. where and what happens to the older subs and slaves is that why they have all become bi and lez as the men do not see the true worth of age just young and if so do we younger ones also get thrown away if we stay in the life as we age?



Sounds like the vanilla world to me...Trophy wives and girlfriends, retiring wives who have grown older in favor of a younger woman. And no guarantees in any relationship.

Whining about the fact that a lot of older men prefer sexy young females isn't going to do anything but make you angry, and ruin your attitude, so you are likely to scare off potential partners.

You have a choice. You can accept the fact that most older men would prefer to have a young sexy hottie, and find someone who doesn't fit that particular statistic, or you can refuse to accept it and just be angry about it.

There are also the options of choosing a younger man, becoming Domme, opting for a Domme instead of a Dom, etc.

The world goes as it will, not as you or I would have it, and getting angry about it is only going to add to your stress.

Phoenix



IronBear -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 8:45:36 AM)

On the other side of the coin, in many societies, having an older man and I do mean a man 50+ is the ultimate catch for many younger females. The older man usually has experience and stability on his side as well as possibility better financial security. I speak from experience in thas as all who know Lady Neets and I know.

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Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence!
Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.
Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.
Persistence and Determination alone are omnipotent!
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It's all in the game and how you play it!



amayos -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 11:00:11 AM)

I believe your general frustration with the "crowd" is applicable to the overall human condition in modern society. You will see it invade the BDSM underworld as it gradually becomes even more mainstream and accepted as a hip alternative lifestyle. It seems there are more soccer moms becoming dommes than ever before, as well as self-styled teen-age "slave girls", not to mention the countless men who add BDSM as just another item on their kink menu.

Most people in the so-called fetish and BDSM scene are looking for nothing more than an over glorified boyfriend or girlfriend. Along with that trend in directive comes a myriad soap operaesque snares as they attempt to make what is essentially a more deeply routed mental / spiritual / physical exploration of human animality fit into the confines of sanctioned cultural practices or folkways. Deep, long-term relationships and serious commitments of the soul can and do take root from these meetings, but prostituting the BDSM culture as a personals ads venue for a soul mate, bride or groom, or for someone to sit on a porch and grow old with can at many times lead to a certain sense of disappointment.



HouseofBear -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 12:59:09 PM)

Yes, having the trophy girl is a dream of many older men (and many of the older men are quite frustrated when the trophies want younger pretty-boys, lol). Quite frankly, if that is the type you run into, count yourself lucky that you were able to avoid someone so shallow.



snowangel -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 4:36:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DelRey

Honey,
You need to tone down the coolaid your on or up your medication.

Your profile says your owned property, so what with the stress?
It also says “your trying to understand humans” What???? LOL. I would rather just be a human and try to under stand Spanish or dolphins or some other shit.

<<snippage cause the bit above is all I wanted to reply too>>

Hugs

Del Rey




Hey Mr. Del Rey.... The majority of the Masters/Dommes/Tops/WhatHaveYou who post on the message boards are cool and would never PM a person who's not available. However, femsubs get a LOT of PM's from the clueless, whether our profile says we're looking or not. My profile is rather blunt about my availability and I still get 10-20 clueless PM's a month. It used to be some what benign but then I was getting 10-20 clueless emails a day....

Re the OP, sorry you're having difficulties, Milker. I was a bit confused by your post, too, but it seems (from your journal entries) you're going through a hard time at present. Relax, step back from the situation and chill out for a bit. When you're in a calmer state of mind, post like mad.



Petruchio -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 5:28:34 PM)

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Interesting. I've had more than ond Dom tell me that all Dommes have a bit of sub in them. I don't know if that's envy or jealousy speaking, but it always makes me laugh.


I agree that saying 'all dommes' is too inclusive, but the experience isn't all that unusual. I mentioned elsewhere that a well-known local domme subs to me.

Another fairly common arrangement is the girl who doms other women but subs to men.

The sticking point is to say this is true of all people, which of course it isn't.



KatyLied -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 6:02:09 PM)

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I agree that saying 'all dommes' is too inclusive, but the experience isn't all that unusual. I mentioned elsewhere that a well-known local domme subs to me.


shhh, I didn't say it. Don't spank the messenger. I just think it's funny. But you'll enjoy knowing that one "dom" who said that now has a profile up as a "sub". So perhaps some Doms have a little sub in them as well.



foxglove716 -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 7:09:20 PM)

I was once neglected by a boyfriend who gave me no attention at all because he was holding out for Angelina Jolie. ugh. Needless to say I moved on pretty fast and he tried to come back years later a broken man, crushed by the reality of years lost of setting an unattainable ideal as a standard.

Ive often wondered why I see so many sleazy men approaching beautiful women. I suppose they really have nothing to lose.



KatyLied -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 7:30:01 PM)

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Ive often wondered why I see so many sleazy men approaching beautiful women.


Where to begin with this.....they are insecure, little boys who need an ego boost.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 7:32:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: foxglove716

Ive often wondered why I see so many sleazy men approaching beautiful women. I suppose they really have nothing to lose.

And I often wonder why handsome, sweet, generous men never approach the beautiful women even as they are given them 70 all-clear signs.



foxglove716 -> RE: age and DOm/Masters (2/13/2006 7:47:06 PM)

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And I often wonder why handsome, sweet, generous men never approach the beautiful women even as they are given them 70 all-clear signs.


Yep, thats a good question. My thought is that pretty people fear rejection as much as if not more than non-pretty people. Unattractive people always have something physical and out of their control to fall back on. They can say "oh, if only I were skinnier, if only I weren't bald, if only I werent crosseyed", or whatever. Pretty people have no such excuse. If they are rejected it is because of some part of their inner self. I think that kind of rejection hurts far worse



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