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E-Cigarettes - 6/20/2009 10:07:23 AM   
TheHeretic


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Status: offline 		      Controversy Swirls Around E-Cigarettes

Federal regulators and antismoking groups are taking steps that could snuff out electronic cigarettes, the smokeless nicotine products embraced by a growing number of people trying to kick the habit or avoid bans on smoking in public.
 
 
     Figures.  I smoked my last cigarette about 4 weeks ago.  No cold turkey approach this time, I'm using the gum, but even with that, I'm taking on a 25 year, 2-3 pack a day habit.  There have been a number of moments when I would have said 'screw it' and bought a pack, except for one of these e-cigs in my pocket as a back-up.  I haven't used it since last weekend, but I carry it damn near everywhere.

   It isn't the same, no matter what the marketers try to tell you, but it is close enough in those critical moments. 

  Anybody else had experiences with these devices?

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/20/2009 10:24:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm too cheap to shell out the money to buy one.  I'm afraid I'm going to buy it and hate the damn thing.  I've done the gum, the patches, and I've even went redneck and tried weaning myself off with snuff/chewing tobacco.  Right now, I'm thinking of just getting a prescription from the Doc for those pills you take that curb nicotine cravings and maybe the inhaler. 

I'm not surprised the anti-tobacco fanatics are throwing a fit.  I'm convinced they want to ban anything that has nicotine in it.  Watch out, because tomatoes have trace amounts.  It is a member of the Nightshade family. 

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/20/2009 11:11:33 AM   
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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/20/2009 11:26:01 AM   
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I'm afraid I'm going to buy it and hate the damn thing. 


    I got mine in December of last year, and that was pretty much what happened.  The wife had shelled out the money, and she was pissed when I went right back to regular cigs after a day.

      Throw it in the drawer, if you hate it.  When the cravings are hard upon you in a later attempt to quit, you might find you like it a lot better.

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/20/2009 12:47:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		LMAO!    As you know I live on a busy street.   People throw thing out the car window.  Includes cigarette butts.   I just cut down a good sized tobacco plant growing in from of the house.  (code guy looks)

I was going to put it on freecycle.

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/20/2009 4:01:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yup my ECig is in a drawer somewhere. I wasn't overly fond of it but then I wasn't ready to quit smoking either. Still not ready.

I need to find my happy place inside of me before I can take on quitting, but that might happen when I move (yet again) on Wednesday.

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/20/2009 4:23:10 PM   
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I smoked my last cigarette about 4 weeks ago. No cold turkey approach this time, I'm using the gum, but even with that, I'm taking on a 25 year, 2-3 pack a day habit.
how awesome is this??!!!!!

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/20/2009 4:42:24 PM   
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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/20/2009 4:48:31 PM   
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LMAO!    As you know I live on a busy street.   People throw thing out the car window.  Includes cigarette butts.   I just cut down a good sized tobacco plant growing in from of the house.  (code guy looks)

I was going to put it on freecycle.


How would litterbugs tossing cigarette butts out the window cause a tobacco plant to grow, pahunk?  Cigarettes don't have tobacco seeds in them. 

I looked into growing tobacco for my own use, which is allowed free of taxes up to a certain amount.  It's not easy to grow good tobacco plants, and the process of curing tobacco and making it suitable for smoking is fairly complicated.  It isn't worth it on a small scale really. 

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/20/2009 7:01:16 PM   
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LMAO!    As you know I live on a busy street.   People throw thing out the car window.  Includes cigarette butts.   I just cut down a good sized tobacco plant growing in from of the house.  (code guy looks)

I was going to put it on freecycle.


How would litterbugs tossing cigarette butts out the window cause a tobacco plant to grow, pahunk?  Cigarettes don't have tobacco seeds in them. 

I looked into growing tobacco for my own use, which is allowed free of taxes up to a certain amount.  It's not easy to grow good tobacco plants, and the process of curing tobacco and making it suitable for smoking is fairly complicated.  It isn't worth it on a small scale really. 


It happens.  the thing is- one would have to dry it for 2 years.     But yes.  learned this in Americore when we cleaned the one highway. A member was from NC- she showed and explained .....  so yes- wild tobacco can - be on the road side- ...depending on the climate.

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/21/2009 2:05:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ive been without a cig for a couple of weeks now, and its hard as hell especially when life gets hard. Ive turned to (as silly as it sounds) sunflower seeds. It keeps my mouth busy and helps me from sparking up. So between gum and sunflower seeds i havent had a cigarette in awhile. Hope i can keep up the good work 

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/21/2009 2:24:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		        Way to go, Brandi!  Hang in.  If it helps, the cravings do start to back down after a while.  After a good meal is still teeth-gritting time, but I'm pretty much ok while I have my morning coffee now.

      I've known a number of people who went the sunflower seed route.  It didn't help me at all, but this is about whatever works for the individual.

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/21/2009 2:37:55 PM   
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Ive been without a cig for a couple of weeks now, and its hard as hell especially when life gets hard. Ive turned to (as silly as it sounds) sunflower seeds. It keeps my mouth busy and helps me from sparking up. So between gum and sunflower seeds i havent had a cigarette in awhile. Hope i can keep up the good work 

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/21/2009 2:44:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		      More havoc than the cigarettes will wreak on the lungs?

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/21/2009 5:42:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well the salt dehydrates your mouth and your lips and makes them crack and have little cuts on them, and so when you drink stuff it's painful, and your dried out lips can crack, and that's pretty painful.

I didn't say don't eat them, I just advised not eating to many of them  the salt begins to injure your mouth. and yes I know about that from first hand experince I went through a phase  for a whole one time as a kid where I was gagga for the m and culd eat half a bag in one day.
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     More havoc than the cigarettes will wreak on the lungs?

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/22/2009 6:16:02 AM   
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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/22/2009 9:56:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh believe you me when i first started the sunflower seed route i had the cracked lips and whatnot and it hurt bad,but i take breaks now and then and only eat them when i feel the urge to spark up. When i do eat them i make sure i have a bottle of water with me so i can keep my mouth hydrated so not to cause damage to my lips again.

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/22/2009 5:31:44 PM   
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     Controversy Swirls Around E-Cigarettes

Federal regulators and antismoking groups are taking steps that could snuff out electronic cigarettes, the smokeless nicotine products embraced by a growing number of people trying to kick the habit or avoid bans on smoking in public.
 
 
     Figures.  I smoked my last cigarette about 4 weeks ago.  No cold turkey approach this time, I'm using the gum, but even with that, I'm taking on a 25 year, 2-3 pack a day habit.  There have been a number of moments when I would have said 'screw it' and bought a pack, except for one of these e-cigs in my pocket as a back-up.  I haven't used it since last weekend, but I carry it damn near everywhere.

  It isn't the same, no matter what the marketers try to tell you, but it is close enough in those critical moments. 

Anybody else had experiences with these devices?


E-cigarettes cause E-cancer.

I'm gonna E-quit.

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/22/2009 7:26:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tried patches, inhaler, gum and cold turkey, each of them over and over again. Came to the conclusion the only way if any of them might work, it would be the patches affixed over my eyes, so I can't find my smokes to puff. But I am not giving up, it is once again in my mind to consider giving it another go, but I want the med that deters the thought, champix I think it is called. But one thing I am sure, there is much truth, truth in the thought, once tobacco has been enjoyed, it will forever be in the mind, it's absence, like something missing from life you can't quite put the finger on. Many I know who have quit twenty years or more, admit sometimes the craving is there, and the sorrow for a thing they believed they once enjoyed, once a smoker, forever a smoker.

Don't give up giving up, who knows, one day it might work.

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RE: E-Cigarettes - 6/22/2009 7:52:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I bought 3 packs today.  It cost me a little over $12.00.  I noticed the chewing tobacco and moist snuff now costs less, which amazed me.  It used to cost more.  I was briefly considering trying that approach again.  But I know how unattractive it is.  .

I keep looking for easy outs, instead of just quitting.  My father smoked from 14 years or age until he was 52.  He is now 66, and he hasn't smoked since.  I started when I was 12, now I am about to be 34.  I want to quit while I am still a young man.  I want to throw the damn things in the trash and move the fuck out of flavor country.  Oh man, I just love them so much.  I do, I love smoking.  It's just so hard to quit.

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