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Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the disturbing - 6/26/2009 8:33:41 PM   
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Okay, I wanted to start a thread about Michael Jackson from another angle.
I  and most of the world have been watching the non-stop 24 hour coverage of Michael Jackson,
and loving it all!
The good, the bad, the sad and the disturbing.


I will dare to speak for most of the people that absofucking love him, that we love him in spite
of the drama in his life.
We love him for the music, MY GOD 40+ years of music, singing/ dancing {he created many dances that will live on forever}, his style, his energy, his talent, his devotion to his craft, and the revolutionary changes that he made in the music industry!
Michael for the first 34 years of his life {or so}was so talented it is surreal.
When you connect with MJ, what is your focus?
The fact that he is the undisputed King of Pop, loved by millions around the world {USA, UK, Russia, Africa, Latin America, Japan,}you name the country, MJ fans exist there.


Or do you tend to focus on the clearly and obvious dysfunctional side of Michael Jackson?
The 13 surgeries, the strange behaviors, the skin change, the allegations and his legal problems?

I really mean this post in a kind and curious manner.
Posts that appear to be mean spirited or by those that clearly just hate Michael for whatever reason, will surely be ignored by me.
 
What is it about Michael Jackson/the man inthe mirror will you remember forever clearly?
The man, the legend, and his revolutionary changes and breakthroughs in the music industry?
Or the man that had to live 45 out of his 50 years with the public glare on his back, an abusive father, a sheltered non-existent childhood, 13 surgeries {everyone says he was maimed and butchered}, strange behaviors, legal problems and clearly at the end some serious drug addictions that killed him. {And his ex-father in law Elvis}


I just happen to be in the camp of those that love the FUCK out of Michael Jackson, as much now as I did 40 years ago, that is the point!  Most of us have listened to and followed him all his life. In fact since I grew up in the Michael Jackson era, my fondest memories of MJ are when he was with the Jackson 5!  It really was all about the Jackson 5 when I grew up, hands down for years. We watched Jackson 5 cartoons, for gosh sakes!

No one has commented that Michael's first wife was the only daughter of Elvis Presley, who also died in similar situations, and is loved by many?
How ironic is it that the King of Pop, married the daughter of Elvis Presley?

I am hoping Michael and Elvis {his father in law}start a band in the after life and play forever.

It also appears from what I see on non-stop Michael coverage that many love him for the exact same reasons.
Understand, Micheal Jackson came along 45 years ago, I have lived my life listening to Michael Jackson/Jackson 5 music.
Michael Jackson is like our first love for most of us, when we listen to his songs many of us feel almost the same feelings we felt 40 years ago.
Music allows you to travel back in time and space to a time most of us have forgotten.
In my heart and soul, he will always be little Michael of the Jackson 5.

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/26/2009 8:37:42 PM   
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I remember the same thing happening when Elvis died. The world responded the same way.

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/26/2009 8:45:43 PM   
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I remember the same thing happening when Elvis died. The world responded the same way.


That is the irony that many have overlooked with their non-stop criticisms, Elvis was Michael's ex father in law!
Michael married Elvis Presleys daughter, don't people know that?
Michael and Elvis are bonded through Lisa Marie!


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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/26/2009 8:54:32 PM   
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I see both sides because that's what Michael was. He was in incredibly talented individual who was a walking freak show in life and body for the last 15-20 years. I spent this evening listening to some of my favorite Michael Jackson music. I always preferred "Off The Wall" to "Thriller" with the exception of "Billie Jean". I went to You Tube and looked up his performance at the 1983 Motown 25th Anniversary show - the one where he performed the moonwalk for the first time. I watched it several times.

I don't focus on either side of who Michael was. Michael was both sides. I love his music. In his younger years he was an incredibly talented young man who was a fantastic singer, songwriter and performer and one of the greatest pop superstars of all time. In his later years he chose to disfigure himself through surgery to the point that he could have been an extra for the remake of  "Planet Of The Apes". His legal issues indicate that he was deeply disturbed... a condition that was probably exacerbated by having lived in a public fishbowl most of his life.

That's who Michael was for better or for worse.



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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/26/2009 9:00:53 PM   
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There is no doubt that Jacko was an enormously talented man in his field, It is also clearly an enormous shock to his fans that he is dead, I hope for all of us that this gets established as the "tribute" thread and then there will be a lot less grief for those who wish only to praise him.

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/26/2009 9:16:56 PM   
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There is no doubt that Jacko was an enormously talented man in his field, It is also clearly an enormous shock to his fans that he is dead, I hope for all of us that this gets established as the "tribute" thread and then there will be a lot less grief for those who wish only to praise him.

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lol, a tribute thread.
nawwww
I really just want to know what people's focus is when it comes to Michael.
If you have loved and listened to him all your life/over 40 years it is hard to focus on only the last 15 years.
Just understand Pirate those of us that love him, have loved him {long time}.
Many of us still see him as little Michael of the Jackson 5.
In fact, most of the music that I love from Michael was produced over 30 years ago.
 
This song right here/Got to be there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTxvWW667Mg
made me cry 35 years and at least 5 songs from MJ can still make me cry.
That is the love many have for Michael.

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/26/2009 9:46:48 PM   
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Sometimes I wonder if it is possible to be a true genius in a very specific part of your life and be normal in the rest? It seems many gifted people have this same trouble fitting in with the rest of us.

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/26/2009 10:14:08 PM   
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Sometimes I wonder if it is possible to be a true genius in a very specific part of your life and be normal in the rest? It seems many gifted people have this same trouble fitting in with the rest of us.

Butch


It appears that Michael had many demons, obsessions, compulsions and addictions.
I have heard that those surgeries that ruined his nose, caused him to go even further downhill.
When most of his nose was gone, that's when I really believe he started to spiral downhill.
It was a slippery slope.
How many of us would feel good about ourselves, especially as an entertainer with a nose like that?

That's when he started wearing veils, and trying to hide his nose.  Maybe even get a little lighter to take the edge off the nose?
I would bet money, that is when he got on the anti-depressants, and many of the other boatload of medicines he took.

 
Michael, obviously was concerned about his looks, and he was the butt of jokes for the last 20 years.
Do you think being ridiculed and trashed on the regular makes you a better human being?
I really think he has serious issus pre-nose, but after the 13 surgeries he had some REAL big issues then.
But I still love me some Michael Jackson, the good, the bad and the disturbing.

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/26/2009 10:45:56 PM   
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In the end he was an epic tragic figure, which is kinda fitting . .. . . .

There was much of his music that I loved, & I especially love the uplifting songs he did . . . . . 'Scream' in particular is a song I feel a deep connection with, that has helped get me thru some bad times . . . . . Also 'Man In The Mirror', 'We Are The World', & 'Ebony & Ivory' . . . . . .

That's what I'll mostly remember about him, that despite his problems he strove to make the world a better place.

That, & that he ended up being the nth example of how huge stacks of money clearly cannot buy happiness & lifelong satisfaction . . .. . .

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/26/2009 11:55:24 PM   
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Just understand Pirate those of us that love him, have loved him {long time}.


I do understand, so I will be (as I have elsewhere) blunt, mourn amongst your fellow mourners. I only posted on this thread because I feel it is right for you all to have a place to express your collective grief without challenging opinions like mine getting in the way. It seems to me that "tribute thread" is what you all need. I hope that helps. Of course I don't feel the same as you, life for me will not change and I don't think It's right for me to go biting my tongue.
If this doesn't end up being it ... you Whacko Jacko fans need your space, any fool can see that. My opinion remains the same. I'm going elsewhere to be unsympathetic, I hope by my not returning here, I will be afforded the appropriate mutual understanding.

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/27/2009 3:06:37 AM   
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I'm in the camp that finds him 'weird and unusual' at the time of his death, but a musical genuis for the rest of it, weird or not. I mean we're all pretty weird.

Sure, I was on the anti-Mikey train when the 'allegations' came out, but in end he was not convicted of anything. No real evidence was ever shown and all they had was someone's "word" that he did bad. And we *ALL* know that the person pointing the finger isn't always lil miss or mr squeeky clean and honest. (And many who's ever been falsely accused of abuse or the dreaded R word can attest to that many times over.)

Was it odd he had an amusment park? Of course. Odd that he liked hanging out with youngin's....yep. But hey, my best friend is 4 years younger than me. He was in 5th grade when I was in high school. He was in high school when I left for the military. Am I weird? (Well that answer is a resounding hell yes, but for other reasons.)

So yeah....in his later years, he was a little odd....and certainly did a few things that made the old eyebrow raise. But with no proof....(and lots of episodes of law and order in my brain)......in the end it's just 'weird,' not criminal or illegal.

So yeah, from time to time, I rock out with Thriller.....Smooth Criminal or Don't Stop Til You Get Enough. Probably always will.


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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/27/2009 7:40:49 AM   
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It's funny: I don't know what camp I am in. I was not a big fan of his music, altho I greatly admired his talent. I was a huge fan of his dancing and theatrical talents. I watched his videos and shows he was on to see his dancing. I remember watching the Motown tribute show that he moonwalked in. I was impressed with that, but what really blew me away was when he went en pointe and held it there and the position of his body. I was still dancing in the state ballet at the time and just sat in awe. I watched that clip last night with a friend and still was oohing and awwing about it. lol

As he got radical in his plastic surgery, I thought him freaky, un natural. And completely ruining, what I thought was a pretty good looking man. I didn't really follow him, so to me, I concuded he was very troubled. No one who is * normal * so radically changes his appearance. Like that woman who is plastic surgerying herself to death to look like Barbie. But it didn't change my mind about his talent.
I remember watching a show in which MJ was in Vegas, it was a documentary type show and he was shopping at the Venetian. I had just been to the Venetian a few months earlier and there was one particular shop that had the most beautiful Faberge eggs and other Russian art. Michael was literally speeding thru the shop, barely looking at itmes and saying : I''l take that.... and that.. I'll take that. he never picked up an item or really stopped to look at it. I remember it well, I was watching it with my parents and I said to them, this guy has huge addiction problems. I didn't mean he was on drugs, I was referring to his actions and behavior and a shoppng addiction. Knowing addicitions are usually dual or multifaceted in nature, I was suspect that he had or would have a drug issue. I felt sorry for him, because his action were that of someone trying to fill a void with
" things ". For the greater part of his life, he was tragic, sad and pathetic. That is not said with malice, it is said as fact. Those of you who lovd and adored him most likely do not have hopes that your children will aspire to live his life, nor would you wish to have lived it yourselves. His was a life overflowing with possiblilities and save his " king of Pop " status, he had very little.

I won't comment on the " controversial stuff ", except to say: . I am not sure I believe the case that was brought to trial, but I do believe the other youngins that accused him.

Whatever he did or didn't do, it is/was very apparent that MJ was mentally ill. Sadly for him, he did not have any one who loved or cared about him enough to do what Brittany Spears family did. Get conservetorship and try to help him become whole again. No child should have been left in his care. Forget about the allegations, MJ was just not stable enough to raise children in a healthy environment.
I am a religous woman, so I hope Michael Jackson found salvation before he died. None of us know what he did in his private moments over the last years, days or hours. No one knows what he may have privately asked God. To those who may take issue with that.... MJ himself spoke of his belief in God, so I am speaking as one believer about another believer.

I AM saddened at the circus his death is becoming, altho, not really surprised. I am appalled at the photo of him being taken from his home, obviously dead, on a stretcher, hooked up to stuff and being worked on by the Paramedics. Also at the video of his shrouded body being transported from the hospital to the morgue. As someone who just recently lost her Dad in a tragic/sudden accident, who was taken from his home in a similar manner, I cannot imagine how his family feels seeing that. That is an image I try to forget everyday. Maybe I am a bit sensitive, but I think it is horrible.

No matter what ones thoughts are on MJ: a mother lost a son, children lost a father, siblings lost a brother and their pain is immeasurable. MJ is in another place now, hopefully whole and unfettered. The humane thing is to respect his family and loved ones.  Because it really isn't about MJ any more. It's about those he left behind, whose pain is immeasurable and sorrow will never be gone. I fear for those little children. I pray they are taken into aninimity and left to grow as normally as they can. There is something called truamatic death. It refers to death from suicide, homocide, accidental death etc. Such is the case of MJ. It is the most difficult death to grieve, closure often never comes to the survivors. I think that is where my saddness in his passing comes from. My best friend lost her sister to truamatic death, I lost my Dad that way. When I tell you the pain is physical, I am not speaking metaphorically. And my heart breaks for his family and loved ones. They belong to a small club, that I also belong to. Different circumstances, same grief and pain. I, at least, am left in peace to deal with it.

We have had years,  no, decades to condem, castrate and dispise MJ, if that be your feelings in his death. It's all been said, it's all been thought. Any man's death should not be an opportunity to further denegrate another. Those who feel that way will have ample opportunity in the future. I do not suggest anyone change their mind or say nice things when they don't feel that way.  I suggest you look at the bigger picture and realize there are people < his family > who are alive and are hurt, and just may have been hurting for years, watching their loved one fall into a black hole. To offer a kind word or thought for their pain, certainly compromises no one's personal values.

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/27/2009 7:56:18 AM   
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 Well tallented Yes ,  but I dont understand how many view him as he was some type of  John Lennon  ?  
Also , I cant help but think of the tune by Pat Benatar  -   Hell is for children !

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/27/2009 8:11:51 AM   
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I believe that Kia hit the right note with this -
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In the end he was an epic tragic figure, which is kinda fitting . .. . . .

Seriously?  I think Kia is (or should be IMO) the most quotable person on CM.  Fucking rocks.
I think the big thing people tend to forget is that shock does weird things to people and so the outpouring we see many people just in shock - and it's not something you can ultimately control.
I just can't get over how it made me remember stuff from my past.  It was one of those moments - like when you hear a familiar song or smell something or hear a story and you get that warm and fuzzy memory jolt of something that you had forgotten before.
Man in the Mirror rocked.  And for my sins - yeah I know - I liked Earthsong.
 
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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/27/2009 8:23:50 AM   
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by the way, does ANYONE know what that made-up bullshit word "Jah-Moh" that kept repeating in many songs (but repeated most in "Bad") meant or was suppsed to mean?

Was that some fucked up wannabe pseudo ghetto-ass version of  "Ja" from the Rastafarian Creed?

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/27/2009 8:28:08 AM   
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by the way, does ANYONE know what that made-up bullshit word "Jah-Moh" that kept repeating in many songs (but repeated most in "Bad") meant or was suppsed to mean?

Was that some fucked up wannabe pseudo ghetto-ass version of  "Ja" from the Rastafarian Creed?


Pfft... not sure - but have you heard the whole BiilieJean Jackson/Jones story/legend that led to the less squeeky Jackson?
 
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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/27/2009 8:31:42 AM   
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way back when, but I am a fossil and forgot...

besides, being very visual like yourself, I only really cared about trivia relating to Thriller and that Dick Tracy/UNtouchables style movie/clip.  Smooth Criminal.

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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/27/2009 8:52:22 AM   
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quote:

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There is no doubt that Jacko was an enormously talented man in his field, It is also clearly an enormous shock to his fans that he is dead, I hope for all of us that this gets established as the "tribute" thread and then there will be a lot less grief for those who wish only to praise him.

Pirate



lol, a tribute thread.
nawwww
I really just want to know what people's focus is when it comes to Michael.
If you have loved and listened to him all your life/over 40 years it is hard to focus on only the last 15 years.
Just understand Pirate those of us that love him, have loved him {long time}.
Many of us still see him as little Michael of the Jackson 5.
In fact, most of the music that I love from Michael was produced over 30 years ago.
 
This song right here/Got to be there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTxvWW667Mg
made me cry 35 years and at least 5 songs from MJ can still make me cry.
That is the love many have for Michael.


I posted this very late, with a wonderful cocktail, listening to Jackson 5 tunes.
I have not cried for 35 years straight! 
  I take breaks from crying!!
I meant "made me cry 35 years ago" and many of his songs can still have that effect.



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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/27/2009 9:03:43 AM   
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You all might get a chance to see MzMia, next week on t.v.!

I am planning on hopping on a bus and going to NYC {$50 round trip}  to sign the wall at the Apollo,
lay flowers, make many memories, and videotape/take pictures.

Look hard, I will be the cute woman moonwalking!!

 
Off to make bus reservations for next weekend!
Got to be there!



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RE: Michael Jackson Mania/the good the bad and the dist... - 6/27/2009 9:05:15 AM   
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 Well tallented Yes ,  but I dont understand how many view him as he was some type of  John Lennon  ?  



You don't? I'm sorry. I'm not a Michael Jackson fan by any means, but this doesn't mean to say I'm not a fan of someone who was in some way influenced or inspired by Michael Jackson. I would even go so far to say that this is arguably one of the greatest losses to both music and culture of the past century.

Even among the numerous great and talented people that Motown produced - Stevie Wonder, Lionel Richie, Diana Ross, Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson, Mary Wells, Arethra Franklin to name but a few - Michael Jackson stood out not least for his genius and ingenuity for near on four decades.

John Lennon was also outstanding, but so too were all the four Beatles in their way, Paul MacCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr. But it was never anything like Michael Jackson. What Michael Jackson had was pure genius, and he showed this consistently throughout his career through his ability to mix and create new genres, his ability to write songs and create music, his abilities as a performer and not least his contribution and innovation when it came to dance.

There's the many stars he's influenced in pop, R&B, hip hop and soul, people like Mariah Carey, Usher, Justin Timberlake, there's his humanitarian causes, the 750 million records he's sold worldwide as the most successful solo male artist, the World Music Awards Best Selling Pop Male Artist of the Millenium award, 13 Grammy awards, 13 Number One singles in his solo career, numerous Guinness Book of Records entries....

..and it is on the basis of all this I have formed my opinion - his achievements.

This is not considering Michael Jackson, the person, nor the allegations, nor his eccentricities, but purely in terms of his achievements.

And it's those achievements which will stand the test of time, and history.


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