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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 3:34:46 PM   
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It sums it up...poorly, because youve let your donkey colored glasses interfere. Without the coloration, it is a trend that shows that people are finally linking the policies to the man. That should be a concern to his supporters, because his policies have not polled well for months.



Speaking of policies, I'm still waiting to see the justification for your claims that the national debt will exceed 100% of GDP and we will have double-digit interest, along with some substantiation of the "well-informed" prediction of double-digit inflation.



National debt >100% GDP is from the CBO. Double digit inflation...read some history of monetary policy.

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 3:36:14 PM   
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Obama Averages 61% Job Approval in JuneObama at 89% approval among Democrats, 25% among Republica

PRINCETON, NJ -- U.S. President Barack Obama averaged a 61% job approval rating for the month of June, down from his 65% average in May, and one point below his previous monthly low of 62%, recorded in March.

Obama's June average is based on 14,914 Gallup Poll Daily tracking interviews conducted in June. The 61% average represents a five percentage-point drop compared to his 66% average for his first 11 days in office, Jan. 21-31, 2009.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/121511/Obama-Averages-61-Job-Approval-June.aspx

when you cant be sure.. go to the original source... the Gallop poll's web site itself

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 3:39:51 PM   
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National debt >100% GDP is from the CBO. Double digit inflation...read some history of monetary policy.


Nope, sorry.

If you're going to throw out this bullshit then you're going to have to back it up.

It's not "I'm right until you prove me wrong".

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 4:29:33 PM   
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National debt >100% GDP is from the CBO. Double digit inflation...read some history of monetary policy.


Nope, sorry.

If you're going to throw out this bullshit then you're going to have to back it up.

It's not "I'm right until you prove me wrong".




National Debt by President

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/thefederalbudget/ig/Political-Economic-Measures/Debt-GDP-by-President.htm

Debt here says its more like 87%, not over 100%

http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2006/04/the_best_debt_c.html

An interesting site about why spending works in times like these

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 5:26:31 PM   
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National Debt by President

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/thefederalbudget/ig/Political-Economic-Measures/Debt-GDP-by-President.htm

Debt here says its more like 87%, not over 100% You apparently have a problem with the defintion of the word "projected". It means future, the 87% is today



http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2006/04/the_best_debt_c.html

An interesting site about why spending works in times like these Where does the linked article say that?



http://zfacts.com/p/318.html


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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 5:34:17 PM   
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How We Get Out of the Great Depression II
By Steven Stoft, March 2, 2009
Here we go again: Hoover got us in, and WWII got us out. Bush got us in, and

to his credit, starting trying to get us out. Though, mostly he threw money at bankers.
In the Great Depression, Roosevelt tried deficit spending, but he was too timid. Then he stopped in 1937 and the economy nose-dived. It took the humongous deficits of WWII to pull us out of the Great Depression. Those deficits blasted the economy from depression into overdrive.


It goes on from there.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 5:42:38 PM   
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National Debt by President

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/thefederalbudget/ig/Political-Economic-Measures/Debt-GDP-by-President.htm

Debt here says its more like 87%, not over 100% You apparently have a problem with the defintion of the word "projected". It means future, the 87% is today



http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2006/04/the_best_debt_c.html

An interesting site about why spending works in times like these Where does the linked article say that?



http://zfacts.com/p/318.html





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It will take a miraculous deception for Obama to be re-elected. He can no longer pretend that he hasn't taken to heart the philosophies of his radical associaties, and with inflation nearing double digits, the national debt approaching or exceeding 100% of GDP, interest rates in double digits and (if he manages to get a health care plan passed) no improvement in Health Care, and no change in the ME or North Korea he will go the way of Jimmy Carter.




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It sums it up...poorly, because youve let your donkey colored glasses interfere. Without the coloration, it is a trend that shows that people are finally linking the policies to the man. That should be a concern to his supporters, because his policies have not polled well for months.



Speaking of policies, I'm still waiting to see the justification for your claims that the national debt will exceed 100% of GDP and we will have double-digit interest, along with some substantiation of the "well-informed" prediction of double-digit inflation.



National debt >100% GDP is from the CBO. Double digit inflation...read some history of monetary policy.



apparently you have a problem with including the word projected.
you stated it as a fact now.. not a projection. try and remember what you write please.

it isnt here... where is it?


< Message edited by tazzygirl -- 7/9/2009 5:43:23 PM >

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 5:50:43 PM   
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How We Get Out of the Great Depression II
By Steven Stoft, March 2, 2009
Here we go again: Hoover got us in, and WWII got us out. Bush got us in, and

to his credit, starting trying to get us out. Though, mostly he threw money at bankers.
In the Great Depression, Roosevelt tried deficit spending, but he was too timid. Then he stopped in 1937 and the economy nose-dived. It took the humongous deficits of WWII to pull us out of the Great Depression. Those deficits blasted the economy from depression into overdrive.


It goes on from there.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html



He is talking about WWII, not deficit spending, as pulling us out of the GD. Mobilization put people to work, it wasnt the deficit spending to pay for the war, it was the jobs and return to productivity.

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 5:53:21 PM   
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apparently you have a problem with including the word projected.
you stated it as a fact now.. not a projection. try and remember what you write please.

it isnt here... where is it?



Apparently you have a critical reading problem. The post was clearly in reference to his 2012 reelection That is in the future for most of us.

< Message edited by willbeurdaddy -- 7/9/2009 5:54:29 PM >

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 5:53:55 PM   
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The main thing to remember is that, with consumer spending going down, business is going to lay people off—not hire them. You can't blame business for this. It's just a vicious cycle the economy gets into. Any you can't blame consumers for not spending in bad times. The only way out of this, if we don't want to wait 10 or 20 years, is for the government to spend, pay unemployment insurance, or give tax breaks to people who will spend (not the rich). Of course there's also the problem of the banks. Obama should stop saving the bankers, and just take over the bad banks. Once they're working they can be sold back to the private sector.


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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 5:55:33 PM   
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apparently you have a problem with including the word projected.
you stated it as a fact now.. not a projection. try and remember what you write please.

it isnt here... where is it?



Apparently you have a critical reading problem. The post was clearly in reference to his 2012 reelection That is in the future for most of us.


more like you have a problem associated with your political bent.. backpeddaling.

more than once i have shown your numbers to be wrong.

are you here to pick a fight?

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 5:56:45 PM   
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apparently you have a problem with including the word projected.
you stated it as a fact now.. not a projection. try and remember what you write please.

it isnt here... where is it?



Apparently you have a critical reading problem. The post was clearly in reference to his 2012 reelection That is in the future for most of us.


more like you have a problem associated with your political bent.. backpeddaling.

more than once i have shown your numbers to be wrong.

are you here to pick a fight?


You havent shown any of my numbers to be wrong. Are you here to embarass yourself like DomKen, who is in hiding after his asinine claims about the money supply going down?

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 6:03:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		From where I sit she's doing anything but embarass herself willbeurdaddy.You on the other hand........

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 6:11:25 PM   
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You havent shown any of my numbers to be wrong. Are you here to embarass yourself like DomKen, who is in hiding after his asinine claims about the money supply going down?

Naughty. Don't make claims that aren't true.

Your claims are based on one source that doesn't source the data or reveal methodology. The facts are all the indicators are contrary to those claims.

You can continue to claim things you can't prove but I'd watch the ad hominen I've been being gentle with you because you're new and I figured Mod XI would take care of you soon enough.

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 6:22:56 PM   
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willbeurdaddy gawd your research numbers are as bad as your manners.
CNN was at 67% not 76% in feb...so a six point drop, ....
from CNN TODAY
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/29/obamas-approval-rating-remains-steady-poll-says/
The 61 percent approval rating is down one point from May and down six points from February. "Since March, Obama's approval rating has gone down one percentage point each month in CNN polls," notes CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "In March it was 64 percent; in April it was 63 percent. Last month his approval rating stood at 62 percent and now it is at 61 percent."
Lucy







http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0709/obamab.html

"The poll, published today by news channel CNN, put President Obama's overall job approval rating at 61%, down from 76% in February."

"The poll, published today by news channel CNN, put President Obama's overall job approval rating at 61%, down from 76% in February."


Your numbers are from 6/29, mine from today. (And the 76% was 2/6-2/8)

< Message edited by willbeurdaddy -- 7/9/2009 6:36:16 PM >


Problems with your links.... the RTE site you posted is an Irish site. Not saying they arent good.. but.. you really should check down your sources before posting.

Second... i went to the CNN site. The CNN site links us back to this site http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

the Rasmussen Report has a graph oh, about half way down... and.. what is this? it DOESNT show Obama's approval ever being 76%. In fact, they dont show it ever being over 50%.

Now, seems obvious to me, they are using a different scale. takes a bit of time to back track all this. bit, amazingly, i get into all this fact checking.



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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 6:24:13 PM   
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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 6:34:42 PM   
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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 6:38:51 PM   
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willbeurdaddy gawd your research numbers are as bad as your manners.
CNN was at 67% not 76% in feb...so a six point drop, ....
from CNN TODAY
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/29/obamas-approval-rating-remains-steady-poll-says/
The 61 percent approval rating is down one point from May and down six points from February. "Since March, Obama's approval rating has gone down one percentage point each month in CNN polls," notes CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "In March it was 64 percent; in April it was 63 percent. Last month his approval rating stood at 62 percent and now it is at 61 percent."
Lucy







http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0709/obamab.html

"The poll, published today by news channel CNN, put President Obama's overall job approval rating at 61%, down from 76% in February."


Your numbers are from 6/29, mine from today. (And the 76% was 2/6-2/8)


Im just quoting from CNN itself about their own poll numbers, what part of that changes to what an Irish  website says. They are as bad as misquoting CNN as you are.
well rats I see Tazzy has pointed out the error of your ways already....soo back to the forum....buh bye.


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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 6:45:10 PM   
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Well, the way I see it, you can do one of three things.

1. You can ignore the shoe, step over it, act like it’s not even there. But I warn you, eventually you will trip on it and land flat on your face eye level with that stinky shoe.

2. You can kick the shoe under the bed, the couch, into the closest…where ever you can to simply get it out of your sight. But you always have the constant nag of knowing the shoe is there and will need to be picked up eventually.

3. You can pick up the shoe, find it’s mate, and figure out why it dropped in the first place. Only then can you put on that pair of shoes and use them to walk forward.

None of these choices are easy. They all have consequences associated with them. But I firmly believe that the most productive option is the third one. It is much better to walk around with shod feet than to constantly walk on egg-shells bare footed.

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RE: Palin to resign as governor - 7/9/2009 6:49:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps that is what she is doing. If so, i commend her. doesnt ring that way, we will just have to wait and see.

When she was nominated, i was so excited by the prospect of a woman running for high office again. Didnt take long for that excitement to turn into cringing.

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