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WyldHrt -> RE: Too poor to see a Pro-Domme? (7/8/2009 11:10:26 PM)
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So following that vein of thought, if a pro-mistress makes 12000 per month at the rate of 3000 per week over the course of 4 weeks, are you still seriously saying that rent, mortgage, etc. costs that much? Wow, I really would like to know where someone is living that expenses are that much!
As has been said by others, your math is incorrect. Most pros don't make anywhere near that kind of money, and there are many other expenses involved (thank you to the ladies who have posted about that [:)] )
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Are you sprinkled with gold dust or something to be able to charge that??
Ummm... was that a general "you"? I'm a submissive and am not, nor have I ever been, a pro Domme. I just get sick of hearing the whining of subs who think they should get sessions on the cheap or free, and even more sick of hearing how professionals who have spent years perfecting their craft don't deserve to be paid for their time.
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Actually, uhmmmm, yes laywers do end up cutting their fees when loans and things are paid off. Why? Because that is what the market can afford to pay at any given moment and any professional who has outrageous fees will soon find their clients going to cheaper alternatives.
Horseshit. Honestly, what world do you live in? Lawyers will charge what the market will bear, just like any other business person. The better their record and reputation, the more they are able to charge for their services. A lawyers fees go up as they gain experience, not down. Unsurprisingly, the same is true of pro Dommes. Reputation, experience, and range of activities offered will often be reflected in the fee charged.
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Are you further suggesting though that a Pro-domme's money needed to start her business is somehow equivelent to that of student loans taken out by laywers and doctors? Kind of insulting to laywers and doctors isn't it? To say that all their years of schooling means nothing in comparison to someone who can snap her fingers and charge the same hourly rates without the benefit of an education.
As a matter of fact, I discussed this thread with a close friend who is both an MD and a Dom, and he laughed at the idea that he should be insulted nearly as hard as he laughed at the idea of a doctor's or lawyer's fees going down when their student loans are paid off. From the pro side, I think Calandra covered the education issue quite well. As for "snapping her fingers" yadda yadda, you really don't know much about pro Dommes, do you? There is a bit more involved than owning a leather outfit, high heels, and a flogger, FFS. I must say that your opinion of pros is shining through quite nicely, though.
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Okay, I thought it might be kind of difficult for pros to be able to get loan amounts like that for their business from their local lending institutions.
Correct. That means that the money for all of her equipment, play space, classes taken, costumes, wigs, single use items, makeup, and everything else probably came out of her own savings.
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So lets see here, maybe 5000 dollars (high end amount here obviously as there are pros who do this with less than 300 dollars worth of equipment) to start out with.
If you think a pro with $300 worth of equipment who is just starting out is getting the kind of money top pros with thousands of dollars worth of equipment, costumes, etc and years of experience, reputation, and education make, you are quite deluded.
As I said, I'm a sub. I have also spent a hell of a lot of money (somewhere over $1000) on "equipment", even though I have made rather than bought most of my own impact toys and both my wardrobe and toybag are quite minimal compared to what a pro D is expected to have. Do you know what a single corset, leather flogger, or pair of thigh high "bitch boots" costs? I suspect not.
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Yes, its a business. No dispute there. Yes, clients will pay money for sessions. But 12000 per month?? Very few if any single owner businesses make that and so instead of justifying it with outragious claims of rent, mortgage, upkeep, etc. why not be honest and say that it is good old fashioned greed for money? Nothing more, nothing less.
This has been addressed. You are taking an amount made by few if any pros and trying to turn it into what all pros make.
Lastly, since it is evident that you see pro Dommes as greedy, uneducated money grubbers taking advantage of poor, innocent submissives, I suggest you avoid them completely. Most will probably thank you for that.
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