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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/1/2006 5:25:25 PM   
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Oh lol! How can they do that, when I'm so naieve, innocent and demure ;) thanks for letting me know I hadn't realised :) and thanks for the generous offer but I have a domain name and hosting for a site that I'm working on now. Will re link my posts when that is ready to go. :)

Back to Starhawk's words, I so agree with her in that respect. It's like the word 'fat', or 'slut' or 'bitch' or 'whore' or whatever derogatory term someone wishes to throw at someone else...it is so freeing and refreshing and be able to turn around to someone who is slinging them and say 'yeah I am, you have an issue with that?' or some such other retort that claims the term for yourself.


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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/6/2006 9:06:23 PM   
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A "funny" story I have to share.
I once new a sub - gorgeous, useful, financially secure, smart...
He was recovering from the end of his D/s relationship - a relationship HE ended.

He had been a full-on slave to a beautiful lesbian dominant. This relationship was straight out of a book - she kept him under her stairs, he would sign over his paycheques on pay day, in the home he was a naked slave to do her bidding at all times.

Then, she ended her realtionship with a woman and ended up in a hetero romance. He was outraged. That she could suddenly develop a love for cock and NOT HIS...

He became sullen, then angry and then he ended his relationship with her. I don't know where he's at with this now (this was over 10 years ago and I have not seen in almost as many as he left the scene altogether), but the last I heard he was still angry about "what she did to him."

Ironic.

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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/6/2006 9:54:52 PM   
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Ironic.


That's not ironic.

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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/7/2006 8:05:31 AM   
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Ironic.


That's not ironic.


*Smile* You're right.
It is not ironic.
It is typical.

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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/9/2006 7:29:17 AM   
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i believe that, for me, servitude would best be expressed in a heterosexual relationship where i belonged to a dominant Mistress. But if She were to lend me to others..a lesbian couple, for example..i would obey Her. tern

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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/9/2006 11:28:36 AM   
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< Message edited by BlondBlueSub4U -- 3/9/2006 11:29:30 AM >

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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/9/2006 11:42:18 AM   
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Ironic.


That's not ironic.


The thing is, he supposedly gave up complete control. But after he gave up complete control, he was then upset that he was no longer in control.

Sounds ironic to me.

irony: the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning


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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/9/2006 11:48:24 AM   
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i believe that, for me, servitude would best be expressed in a heterosexual relationship where i belonged to a dominant Mistress. But if She were to lend me to others..a lesbian couple, for example..i would obey Her. tern


Well then my friend, you shouldn't jump into a relationship with a Domme that demands you surrender complete control. Make sure her having sexual relations with you are part of the deal before hand. The fellow descirbed above said one thing, and did another.

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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/9/2006 12:01:46 PM   
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The concept of Female Supremacy is a fallacy. There is no such thing as one sex being supreme over the other. People are individuals.

In fact due to the male's superior physical strength, in barbaric societies, history has recorded men enslaving women. It's not happened the other way around on a large scale. Or course some Female Supremacy advocates believe that will happen in the future. I'm sorry, but as male submissive I scoff at that idea, even if it does turn me on.

On a personal basis my kink runs toward the idea. Not that I could submit to every female. No way. Not to every Domme either. My submission would need to be earned. Only then would complete surrender happen.

Could I live long term in a typical "Female Supremacy" type relationship? I have to be honest and say I don't know at this point. But one thing I can say is that I'd love to visit it for an extended stay.

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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/9/2006 12:35:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TeeGO

The concept of Female Supremacy is a fallacy. There is no such thing as one sex being supreme over the other. People are individuals.

In fact due to the male's superior physical strength, in barbaric societies, history has recorded men enslaving women. It's not happened the other way around on a large scale. Or course some Female Supremacy advocates believe that will happen in the future. I'm sorry, but as male submissive I scoff at that idea, even if it does turn me on.

On a personal basis my kink runs toward the idea. Not that I could submit to every female. No way. Not to every Domme either. My submission would need to be earned. Only then would complete surrender happen.

Could I live long term in a typical "Female Supremacy" type relationship? I have to be honest and say I don't know at this point. But one thing I can say is that I'd love to visit it for an extended stay.


I don't think you took the time to read the thread entirely.


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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/9/2006 1:20:47 PM   
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quote: Teego


The thing is, he supposedly gave up complete control. But after he gave up complete control, he was then upset that he was no longer in control.

Sounds ironic to me.

irony: the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning


Hey Teego, you took the words right out of BlondeBlueSub4U's mouth! Ha ha. How many profiles you got anyways? Are you male or female? Inquiring minds want to know!

Well troll, i don't consider it ironic because the outcome of the scenario does not run contrary to expectations. There is no expectation that the lesbian is going to get with the male slave, so when she doesn't, it isn't ironic. It is something, I'll give you that, and if you and Alanis want to believe it is irony than that's fine by me.




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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/9/2006 2:29:58 PM   
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Now this is ironic.

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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/9/2006 8:48:00 PM   
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I'm no Troll. But I do share the computer with blondblue and I do make that mistake now and then.

As for the topic, you are entitled to your opinion, as am I.

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RE: Gynarchy and Female Supremacy - 3/9/2006 8:53:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

I don't think you took the time to read the thread entirely.



Yes I did. If I was responding to your post and views I would have said I respect your opinion and was most enlightened to hear that point of view in that way. But to the OP (one that believes females are in fact supreme over males) my remarks were a contrast to his and he was asking for opinions.

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