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rulemylife -> RE: Attorney General May Probe Bush Torture Policy (7/16/2009 7:13:57 AM)
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
The only time I stop responding is when it becomes a circle of repetition of the same false claims until its pointless to discuss. It is a tactic you are a master of.
And you still don't understand that your endless links and posts that it is circumstantial ad hominen. You have yet to post anything in denial of these specific allegations, just information (debatable at best) about prior books. Hint: try and find some first hand denials of the reporting in this book.
Until you do its just your tired game of shuck and jive.
Are you really this gullible?
The claims in the new book were a repetition of his claims in previous books. Two of the people he cites as verification for his claims, Salinger and Schlesinger, were directly quoted saying Heymann's claims were fabricated.
As far as first hand denials of the new book, I'll consult my psychic and see if I can get further comments on it from the spirit world.
Because that's the mark of a true con-artist, which Heymann is, create a scenario that can't be directly disproved. In this case, because he waited until his critics with first-hand knowledge were all dead. I mean really, if he had this supposedly true information as far back as 1993 why do you think it took him 16 years to write the book?
But let's try and reach down deep into our reservoir of common sense and look at his overall credibility from the links I provided:
His publisher was forced to pulp a first edition of a biography of Woolworth heiress Barbara Hutton after a Beverly Hills doctor, who the writer accused of over prescribing drugs for Hutton, pointed out that he was 14 years old at the time of the alleged incident.
The Manhattan district attorney investigated Heymann for fraud over allegations that the Hutton diaries on which much of the book was based were fake.
Heymann also drew scepticism when he appeared on the front of newspapers and on television a decade ago claiming to have been drinking with JFK's son, John, shortly before he was killed in a plane crash. Critics questioned whether John Kennedy would have been friendly with the author who wrote a scandalous biography of his father and the bar owner said Kennedy had not been there for two years.
One of the guiding principles to being a good con-artist is to make sure your lies can't be traced:
Ms. Adams did not question Mr. Heymann's tale, which essentially portrayed the Bessette sisters as demanding women who unintentionally led Mr. Kennedy to his death, nor did she question why Mr. Kennedy would be having a friendly chat with the man who in 1989 published a salacious biography of Mr. Kennedy's mother, A Woman Named Jackie , and last year penned R.F.K.: A Candid Biography of Robert F. Kennedy, which claimed that the late Senator had been physically intimate with Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis as well as with dancer Rudolph Nureyev. Ms. Adams, who said she has known Mr. Heymann for 20 years, said she made no attempt to check the facts. "With whom?" she said. "John? He was dead."
He said Mr. Kennedy visited him at his apartment in the Belnord on the Upper West Side in 1995, to drop off a wedding gift, because he hadn't been able to come to Mr. Heymann's wedding to an English book publicist. (They are no longer married.) Mr. Heymann said Mr. Kennedy arrived with a gift, which Mr. Heymann described as four items of "Tiffany gold." "It was a wedding present which we promptly lost," Mr. Heymann said. "She and I had a fight. She went back to England, and in the course of it I drank myself into a stupor and fractured my left elbow, went into the hospital. When I got out-maybe a maid took them or something-they were gone."
Mr. Heymann said Mr. Kennedy also visited him in his country house in Sherman Connecticut in 1997. Asked if he could provide any witnesses, Mr. Heymann, through his attorney Mel Wulf, put The Observer in touch with Roberta Feinberg, a former girlfriend of Mr. Heymann's who is a freelance photographer and copy editor.............."I mean, I did want to be there, but because I had this allergic reaction, I couldn't. So I was pretty much in one area of the house, so that I was not privy to the actual meeting, other than I was a little curious and when I heard the door close I looked outside and I saw the back of a figure leaving the house with dark hair. That was it. To the best of my knowledge, he said he was meeting with John F. Kennedy Jr. and I assumed it was John F. Kennedy Jr."
Mr. Heymann said that while he was researching his R.F.K. book, Mr. Kennedy had helped him by calling "close family friends" and encouraging them to cooperate. "One of the conditions of his helping me is that he didn't want to be acknowledged," said Mr. Heymann. "He was like his father. He was very private. I did ask him to intervene to interview Ted Kennedy, but on that he said, 'Look I'm not going to ask Ted Kennedy because I know he's not going to talk.'" Mr. Heymann declined to provide The Observer with names of any Kennedy family friends who might have received a prompting call from Mr. Kennedy.
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