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FirmhandKY -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 6:52:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


Just a quick google on photoshopped trig palin photos:

Wonkette Goes After Trig Palin Again

Palin Derangement Syndrome - Photoshopping Trig

Deranged progressive bloggers photoshop Trig Palin to mock the disabled

Firm

Nice try. I did like the two links to whines about the same photo.

However the first link should have edited the caption out so it wasn't clear the picture was an attack on Palin and had little if anything to do with the baby and also left out the revealing info that the stuffcame from the somethingawful forums. SA is not a liberal or conservative site and viciously attacks anybody that draws their attention.

The second manip is sort of an attack against trig, it protrays him as crosseyed, but precisely how is that comparable to calling an 11 year old 'whore' and 'trash?' Furthermore how do you think those two photos compare to the manips posted on Free Republic attacking Michelle and Malia?

Try scrolling down.

Firm




slvemike4u -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 6:53:29 PM)

There is a line.....and it is obvious that there are those on both sides of the aisle willing to cross that line.The shame of it is,and many of us(myself included)here...are guilty of this..... we start to identify the many by the actions of the few.It becomes "they do it"....and "you guys did it first".
Most decent people are apalled at this shit....then there are those who seem to be inspired to move the line just a little further in some sense of retaliation.




TheHeretic -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 6:56:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Most decent people are apalled at this shit....



         Really, Mike???  How about you find me the links to any of our local lib/left/dem posters crying foul on a Palin thread.  What does that do to your  hypothesis above?




slvemike4u -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:36:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Most decent people are apalled at this shit....



        Really, Mike???  How about you find me the links to any of our local lib/left/dem posters crying foul on a Palin thread.  What does that do to your  hypothesis above?
Nah,Rich...I'm not much for searches.....besides the fact...we probaably disagree just where this line is.....I for one have no problems with the heat this woman and her policies receive...you on the other hand seem offended at any criticisms directet at her.
Methinks you all (on the right) protest too much...way too much.




kittinSol -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:40:51 PM)

Apparently, according to our saintly right-wing posters, two wrongs do make a right [8|] .




rulemylife -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:45:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Some of the comments were pretty fucking bad.


Overall, relatively subdued, compared to some of the stuff that has been posted on this forum.

Firm


And since they troubled you so much I assume you can provide us the quotes in question.




slvemike4u -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:45:25 PM)

My bad,sorry.....




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:45:48 PM)

It's that "sense of scale" thing again, that Ken noted the other day. Palin was insulted, Obama's kids were insulted, it's all the same.

Only somehow the insults to Palin were much worse, because... well... we don't know. There's been no answer to that yet. It's just the way it is, that's all. 




kittinSol -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:47:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

My bad,sorry.....


Don't you start apologising for no reasons, Mike :-) .




kittinSol -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:48:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda
There's been no answer to that yet. It's just the way it is, that's all. 


Yep. Just like the young Earth thing. And you'd be a fool and a communist to argue otherwise [8D] .




rulemylife -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:50:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

      I'm having a very strange glitch with your link, Ken, and it is annoying.  I don't wish to see these comments so I can defend them, but so I can say they are negative, unwarranted, nasty, vile, or whatever the case may be.  In other words, I'm completely prepared to offer the sort of response that I would have expected from decent people on the left regarding the attacks on the Palin clan.

     The page won't load properly for me though.  It starts fine, and I see that it is comments regarding President Obama's daughter in a "peace" t-shirt and shorts, but then it shrinks to an illegible point, and I can't expand it sufficiently to read.  Sorry.  I can't comment.  I believe there is something there that bothers you though. 

   (Whatever the glitch is, it doesn't affect anything else I do on the internet, so please don't suggest I reconfigure anything.)


You should be able to expand it by moving the cursor over the the small print and click on it when you see the zoom icon.

The same thing happened when I tried initially.




harddaddy4u -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:51:16 PM)

"this woman and her policies" ?

What does that mean?

She has a belief system, and it's conservative in nature. More power to her. As governor of Alaska, she had certain policies, but unless you live there, they are none of your business. The continual, never ending, day in and day out obsession with Sarah Palin by the liberal left is bordering on the psychotic.

The thread is about attacking her children, but I notice you avoided that aspect of the discussion. The attacks on Palin's children have been vicious, outrageous, vile, hateful, and disgusting, not to mention relentless.

There are no prominent, nationally known conservatives who have "attacked" the children of any prominent liberal. You might find a rare case of someone obscure doing that, but not at the national level. If you're going to allege that children of prominent liberals have been attacked, then name names and be specific. But you can't, because it hasn't happened.

But because you disagree with her "policies", those attacks are just A-ok with you, eh?

Ah, liberalism, thy name is hypocrisy.






slvemike4u -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:52:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

My bad,sorry.....


Don't you start apologising for no reasons, Mike :-) .
I started a post.....posted it,the only problem was I hadn't actually written it yet....half a sentence....so I edited it and apologised for the empty post.Really quite simple kittin...I do wish you would keep up.
Not like I insulted any children though.....




kittinSol -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:53:26 PM)

Sorry 'bout dat. My mind reading skills have shut down for the night.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:55:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: harddaddy4u
The thread is about attacking her children, but I notice you avoided that aspect of the discussion. The attacks on Palin's children have been vicious, outrageous, vile, hateful, and disgusting, not to mention relentless.

There are no prominent, nationally known conservatives who have "attacked" the children of any prominent liberal.
You might find a rare case of someone obscure doing that, but not at the national level. If you're going to allege that children of prominent liberals have been attacked, then name names and be specific. But you can't, because it hasn't happened.


How about some examples of all the "prominent, nationally known liberals" who have been launching these "vicious, outrageous, hateful, disgusting, and relentless" attacks against Palin's children?





FirmhandKY -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:56:08 PM)

Let me tell you what DomKen's dirty little secret about this thread is, Rich.

It's a distraction.

Plain and simpe, he is hoping that either no one notices or that he can quail any comment about what really happened here.

What really happened - and this is not in dispute - is that an Obama kid wore political statements in public. Not only are the two t-shirts political statements made in public, they specifically comment on the US policies, in a place and during a time in which they can not have been a mistake.

One of the major arguments of the left, on why the Palin kids are "fair game" is because they were supposedly used for "political purposes".

Now, by their own same definition, Obama's kids are also open to the same crap.

That's really DomKen's agenda with this thread. He's goal is a pre-emptive strike, in an attempt to intimidate anyone from taking advantage of the situation.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

Firm




slvemike4u -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:57:36 PM)

Kittin....I was of course kidding?




FirmhandKY -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 7:59:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Some of the comments were pretty fucking bad.


Overall, relatively subdued, compared to some of the stuff that has been posted on this forum.

Firm



And since they troubled you so much I assume you can provide us the quotes in question.

No need.

Open any thread with "Palin" in the title.

Firm




slvemike4u -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 8:12:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: harddaddy4u

"this woman and her policies" ?

What does that mean?


Harddaddy when trying to interpet the meaning contained within a statement.....start with the words,in this case they are fairly self evident....I don't like this woman nor her policies.I do beleive it is my right to hold these veiws...


She has a belief system, and it's conservative in nature. More power to her. As governor of Alaska, she had certain policies, but unless you live there, they are none of your business. The continual, never ending, day in and day out obsession with Sarah Palin by the liberal left is bordering on the psychotic

"They are none of your business".....Why do you get to decide what is my business?Why is she none of my business,lets forget that she has and might yet again ran for a national office...am I allowed to care what the Governor of Utah is up to.
The  only thing that appears psychotic to me is your irrational attacks in defence of her.
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The thread is about attacking her children, but I notice you avoided that aspect of the discussion. The attacks on Palin's children have been vicious, outrageous, vile, hateful, and disgusting, not to mention relentless.

Try and keep up here,this thread is about the attacks conservatives have made against Chelsea Clinton and...the Obama girls(btw I'm old enough to remember the attacks on Carters daughter)
You do seem to have a need to make it about the Palin children,shouldn't "you" people leave those children alone.Stop making them the poster children for your own sense of impotence
There are no prominent, nationally known conservatives who have "attacked" the children of any prominent liberal. You might find a rare case of someone obscure doing that, but not at the national level. If you're going to allege that children of prominent liberals have been attacked, then name names and be specific. But you can't, because it hasn't happened.
And we have your word for that...so this is now an officially dead subject....thank you.By the way...if you look some of those links have been provided by some friendly liberal posters....just scroll up.

But because you disagree with her "policies", those attacks are just A-ok with you, eh?
Please show me where I said that.
Ah, liberalism, thy name is hypocrisy.
Ah,delusion thy name is......well you get the point.See you inn the funny papers.






rulemylife -> RE: Conservatives would never attack a politician's children, right? (7/14/2009 8:22:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: harddaddy4u

"this woman and her policies" ?

What does that mean?

She has a belief system, and it's conservative in nature. More power to her. As governor of Alaska, she had certain policies, but unless you live there, they are none of your business.


I see from your profile that you don't live there either, so I guess that begs the question of why you are defending her since you just said that her policies are none of your business.

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The continual, never ending, day in and day out obsession with Sarah Palin by the liberal left is bordering on the psychotic.


Well, as I mentioned before, if she disappears back into the wilderness we would have nothing to talk about.

Unfortunately, she is going out of her way to keep herself in the public eye while complaining about it at the same time.

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There are no prominent, nationally known conservatives who have "attacked" the children of any prominent liberal. You might find a rare case of someone obscure doing that, but not at the national level. If you're going to allege that children of prominent liberals have been attacked, then name names and be specific. But you can't, because it hasn't happened.


Maybe if you go back and actually read the thread you will find the specific examples you requested in John McCain and Rush Limbaugh





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