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Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:13:20 PM

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http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1139969.html

Orly Taitz, asks the court to consider granting his client's request based upon Cook's belief that President Barrack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of U.S Armed Forces.

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:32:14 PM

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That seems like a real long shot to me. Obama has enough political enemies that if his citizenship were in any way questionable, it would've been an issue long ago.

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:38:31 PM

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Oh my god we have been through this shit so many times before

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How can Obama not be a 'natural born citizen' of the United States when he was born in Hawai? Birth within the territory of the USA is all it takes to be one of you guys.

I suppose there is comic relief to be found in this ridiculous 'story'

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:42:17 PM

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His place of birth has never been proven, but if it were true the Republicans ( me included ) certainly would be very happy. I say he is a citizen...

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:43:28 PM

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Actually this is quite shameful...a Major in The United States Army is trying to avoid deployment to a hazardous station.....and dressing it up in this fashion.Shameful....at best,downright cowardice from a professional soldier at worst.

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:44:58 PM

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Nothing is next for the Armed Forces as a whole. The guy is fucking idiot. He is a Major, he knows better. He doesn't want to go to Afghanistan, so he trying this bullshit in the slim hope he gets discharged. If you don't want to get sent overseas to war zones, don't join up. It's that simple.

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:46:14 PM

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quote:

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His place of birth has never been proven, but if it were true the Republicans ( me included ) certainly would be very happy.

Oh man

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:47:49 PM

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His place of birth has never been proven...

Other than the birth certificate, of course.

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:48:21 PM

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That seems like a real long shot to me. Obama has enough political enemies that if his citizenship were in any way questionable, it would've been an issue long ago.

It was in question for a good while, and the powers to be held it in the courts til after the election was over, then refused to hear it

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1139969.html

Orly Taitz, asks the court to consider granting his client's request based upon Cook's belief that President Barrack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of U.S Armed Forces.

If proven that he is not, then yes he is not eligible to be the President of The United States........this has been an issue long before the election, with Obama himself refusing for a very long time to produce his birth certificate.....it came out months before the election that the grandmother stated she was there with his mother when he was born NOT in the United States, but in his fathers home village instead........the birth certificate which was produced shows to be his birth place as Hawaii.....at same time the process for birth certificates are issued in Hawaii came out, thus showing how he can be born in one country and obtain such documents.....sorry but i no longer have all those articles, as at one time I did)

Do I believe is is or was born in this country, NOT A CHANCE....just shows what money can do!

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:50:15 PM

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You have the right to be completely misguided. And the major that's refusing to serve... will not fight for your right to be wrong

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:54:28 PM

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GOOD GRIEF , CHARLEY BROWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 7:54:46 PM

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       My first thought from your snippet was that we had yet another enlistee who decided, after he had signed the contract and taken the oath, that he really didn't want to be in the Army/other branch, and was going to sue his way out, based on a head full of barracks bullshit. Nope

     I hope the major enjoys the other-than-Afghanistan duty station that is found for him while his case is pending. If he doesn't like his CIC, he should resign. I also hope this backfires on him badly. It stinks of mutiny.



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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 8:00:37 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slutslave4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: UglyTruth

That seems like a real long shot to me. Obama has enough political enemies that if his citizenship were in any way questionable, it would've been an issue long ago.

It was in question for a good while, and the powers to be held it in the courts til after the election was over, then refused to hear it

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1139969.html

Orly Taitz, asks the court to consider granting his client's request based upon Cook's belief that President Barrack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of U.S Armed Forces.

If proven that he is not, then yes he is not eligible to be the President of The United States........this has been an issue long before the election, with Obama himself refusing for a very long time to produce his birth certificate.....it came out months before the election that he grandmother stated she was there with his mother when he was born NOT in the United States........the birth certificate which was produced shows to be his birth place as Hawaii.....at same time the process for birth certificates are issued in Hawaii came out, thus showing how he can be born in one country and obtain such documents.....sorry but i no longer have all those articles, as at one time I did)

Do I believe is is or was born in this country, NOT A CHANCE....just shows what money can do!

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The terms of citizenship are interpreted very strictly. A President must be a natural bornbornborn citizen, meaning that immigrants are not eligible to run for President, no matter how long they have lived in the United States. If a child of American citizens is born abroad, he or she is technically considered a natural born citizen, and can therefore hold Presidential office. In addition, a Presidential candidate must have actually lived in the United States for at least 14 years, presumably so that he or she is aware of general issues which impact the American populace

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Unless you can provide proof that neitheer of his parents are/were natural born citizens, it makes it a moot point.

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 8:00:40 PM

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If he really wants to get out, he can start drinking heavily. It gets you out everytime, with a nice vacation at a rehab.

. Note: I stress drinking not drugs. Drugs will get you a general discharge, which doesn't look good. But hell, a drinking problem will get sympathy and an honorable. He's grasping at straws with this bullshit, and he should know better. I'm guessing he wants to keep his commission without having to go to Afghanistan. Like I said, a drinking problem is his best bet.

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 8:06:27 PM

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He is a Major. If he didn't like serving under Obama he should have retired last November. I have no sympathy for this guy..

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 8:10:09 PM

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Well, give the idiot extra points for creativity.

In the event that Obama were for any reason found to be unable to serve, then Joe Biden becomes President. Very simple. So we have a valid President in office whichever way. Not that the identity of the President affects his obligation to serve.

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 8:12:15 PM

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For that very reason, I hope nothing ever happens to Pres. Obama..Biden is an idiot..

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 8:13:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: slutslave4u

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ORIGINAL: UglyTruth

That seems like a real long shot to me. Obama has enough political enemies that if his citizenship were in any way questionable, it would've been an issue long ago.

It was in question for a good while, and the powers to be held it in the courts til after the election was over, then refused to hear it

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1139969.html

Orly Taitz, asks the court to consider granting his client's request based upon Cook's belief that President Barrack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of U.S Armed Forces.

If proven that he is not, then yes he is not eligible to be the President of The United States........this has been an issue long before the election, with Obama himself refusing for a very long time to produce his birth certificate.....it came out months before the election that he grandmother stated she was there with his mother when he was born NOT in the United States........the birth certificate which was produced shows to be his birth place as Hawaii.....at same time the process for birth certificates are issued in Hawaii came out, thus showing how he can be born in one country and obtain such documents.....sorry but i no longer have all those articles, as at one time I did)

Do I believe is is or was born in this country, NOT A CHANCE....just shows what money can do!

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The terms of citizenship are interpreted very strictly. A President must be a natural bornbornborn citizen, meaning that immigrants are not eligible to run for President, no matter how long they have lived in the United States. If a child of American citizens is born abroad, he or she is technically considered a natural born citizen, and can therefore hold Presidential office. In addition, a Presidential candidate must have actually lived in the United States for at least 14 years, presumably so that he or she is aware of general issues which impact the American populace
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Unless you can provide proof that neitheer of his parents are/were natural born citizens, it makes it a moot point.

lol, knew that was coming too

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 8:17:10 PM

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So, what's the answer to it, then? I'm genuinely curious. Sounds to me as though she's right, and has a pretty good point. What's the flaw in it? I'm not seeing it.

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RE: Refusal to serve.. whats next for the Armed Forces - 7/14/2009 8:23:40 PM

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Yanno this is all Alexander Hamilton's fault....fucking furinnor and a bastard to boot!

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