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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/15/2009 9:07:25 PM

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Thank you for the original question Gauge. Reading between the lines, it would appear the question is in some way related to another thread and refers to some specific incident or comment. I haven't looked into it to find out more and so have answered the OP based only on its question posed.

The question indeed refers to another thread and a comment made on there. It kind of intrigued me, ergo the question.

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/15/2009 10:37:03 PM

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I take the opposite opinion to the core of the question of the thread.

If someone does NOT have an open profile to read, to look at, it's like using "bots" for spam, it's like some punk-ass kid throwing oranges at cars on a highway knowing the drivers can't even stop to get a good look at the culprit, it's like pathetic turdlings that bitch about their cuts in welfare due to who's in the White House or Canberra when they 1. never voted 2. didn't pay proper and full taxes.

having a REAL profile here, if you want bitching rights, is like voting and Paying Uncle Sam or Brother Ruddybuck their due.

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/18/2009 4:55:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: Gauge

In another thread someone posted an interesting perspective saying that a public profile posted on the Internet for all to see is somehow invalid when entering into a debate with someone.

I do agree that dragging personal attacks into a debate is paramount to a magician's sleight-of-hand used to distract the audience, but if something in the person's profile is relevant to the discussion then why is it off limits when it is a public profile?

For instance and this is just a silly example:

-User's Profile: I am a vegetarian and a member of PETA.
-User's Post: There is nothing that I like better than a nice, juicy steak.

One contradicts the other assuming of course that the person writing the post is the same as the one who wrote the profile. I fail to see how using this information cheapens a debate. Would it not be valid to point out the inconsistency?

So, please let me hear your thoughts.

When someone's personal profile is dragged into a debate, that is when it stops being an objective difference of philosophies or opinions/beliefs, and becomes a personal attack. That is, to me, a sign of desperation to have the upper hand in an argument/debate, and a sign that the person who feels they have to resort to personal attacks, knows they are losing.

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/18/2009 7:48:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

I take the opposite opinion to the core of the question of the thread.

If someone does NOT have an open profile to read, to look at, it's like using "bots" for spam, it's like some punk-ass kid throwing oranges at cars on a highway knowing the drivers can't even stop to get a good look at the culprit, it's like pathetic turdlings that bitch about their cuts in welfare due to who's in the White House or Canberra when they 1. never voted 2. didn't pay proper and full taxes.

having a REAL profile here, if you want bitching rights, is like voting and Paying Uncle Sam or Brother Ruddybuck their due.

i dont necessarily agree.

my profile is there because i get my email from my long distance dominant there. its the *only* reason i keep a profile. it doesnt tell much about me, or my likes or dislikes, yet i've been here a couple of years (through 2 incarnations, this is the second screen name i've had on collarme/collarchat).

i've been accused of "not wanting" to cut out unwanted mail because i dont use the mail filters (someone checked on my profile, which states clearly that i am not looking, and please refrain from emailing if you are searching for someone) because if i do? i cannot get email from my former in-person dominant, who is still in my life.

my opinion (of my own profile) is that if i'm not looking, why have a totally tricked out profile? and i've not ever been accused of being a fake person on the boards (now, of course, i will be!) for not having that filled out profile. then again, i dont tend to get into some of the more mud-flinging debates.

but that's me.
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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/18/2009 8:10:33 AM

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ORIGINAL: KateyCaine

When someone's personal profile is dragged into a debate, that is when it stops being an objective difference of philosophies or opinions/beliefs, and becomes a personal attack. That is, to me, a sign of desperation to have the upper hand in an argument/debate, and a sign that the person who feels they have to resort to personal attacks, knows they are losing.

k.

Katey (and Gauge), I know the thread in question well and know where the question comes from since I participated in it. Many times, I don't bother looking profiles and base responses to posts. However, there are times when a post comes across as argumentative, opinionated and judgmental in a bad way that warrants a peek. The flip side is that at times, good stuff also warrants a peek. ;) A profile is an additional source of information that can help a person relate or understand a poster more clearly. In the original thread, one particular person came across as very opinionated and judgmental, while, let's call it "speaking her mind very strongly" to be polite. And said person never let up but just kept sniping back at various posters.

Her profile wasn't dragged in but mentioned, and she's the one who went off..... I wonder why she was so defensive about that, because unless a profile is hidden, it's like any other public source of information. Like Gauge said, if someone posts one thing in their profile and then something different in a post, you bet I'm gonna call them on it. And in this day and age, many people have various different relationships and how they met. To judge someone negatively and slam others because they met online while admitting that you've met your last 2 partners online is, well, wrong, IMO Just because you met within a few weeks, not everyone is in a position where they can just hook-up, especially when there are long distances involved. (Or different countries.)

So, to answer the OP, yes, I believe at times profiles are very relevant to posts. No, not to insult, judge and attack someone for their personal preferences but in relevance to the posts.

Just my two cents....

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/18/2009 10:29:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

I take the opposite opinion to the core of the question of the thread.

If someone does NOT have an open profile to read, to look at, it's like using "bots" for spam, it's like some punk-ass kid throwing oranges at cars on a highway knowing the drivers can't even stop to get a good look at the culprit, it's like pathetic turdlings that bitch about their cuts in welfare due to who's in the White House or Canberra when they 1. never voted 2. didn't pay proper and full taxes.

having a REAL profile here, if you want bitching rights, is like voting and Paying Uncle Sam or Brother Ruddybuck their due.

I see, so if I put a bunch of words on my profile, suddenly I am real? You don't really believe everything you read on profiles, do you?

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/18/2009 2:35:06 PM

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In a debate that has nothing to do with anything personal and a thread containing no "I am a..." statements but rather "this is my opionion about an abstract matter" statements, dragging in someone's profile and trying to discredit the person because you can't or won't address the ideas he brought up seems pretty damn lame. But I already said that, didn't I? :)

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/19/2009 12:05:47 AM

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"I see, so if I put a bunch of words on my profile, suddenly I am real?"

No, but if you don't bother ot HAVE a profile, you are LESS real than people that do versus wanktards that don't, won't take any heat while adding heat to others, etc.

You don't really believe everything you read on profiles, do you?

Not at all. And I believe LESS the posts of thoses that don't have the balls or tits to have a profile. The 2 are not mutually exclusive...

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/19/2009 2:34:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
I see, so if I put a bunch of words on my profile, suddenly I am real? You don't really believe everything you read on profiles, do you?

Excellent point.

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/19/2009 2:36:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton
No, but if you don't bother ot HAVE a profile, you are LESS real than people that do versus wanktards that don't, won't take any heat while adding heat to others, etc.

Why do they need a profile to "take heat" when the person wishing to give 'heat' can just as easily post it in the thread?

Oh wait...I think I get it. You want to be able to send "hate mail" to those whose posts you don't agree with, and get mad when you can't, is that it?

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/19/2009 6:32:50 PM

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Back to the OP:

Nope. I don't think it's any more or less relevant than you want to make it. I really doubt you'd see the kind of smoking gun "ah-ha" information as what you suggested (re: the vegatarian saying they liked steak) but even still, things change. What a profile created years ago might say might be out-dated and irrelevant itself.

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/20/2009 10:29:23 PM

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"Why do they need a profile to "take heat" when the person wishing to give 'heat' can just as easily post it in the thread?

Oh wait...I think I get it. You want to be able to send "hate mail" to those whose posts you don't agree with, and get mad when you can't, is that it? "

No, it's nothing more than what I said.

Non voters and non tax payers don't get to bitch about anything.

If you wanna re-write what I posted (as is your wont with myself and others) without having the balls to have a profile, so be it, but nadless is nadless.

and no profile while being a snark is NADLESS.

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/20/2009 10:39:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton
Non voters and non tax payers don't get to bitch about anything.

If you wanna re-write what I posted (as is your wont with myself and others) without having the balls to have a profile, so be it, but nadless is nadless.

and no profile while being a snark is NADLESS.

You just get funnier and funnier. Or is that...more and more sad? Whichever, it's still entertaining. And because it's obvious that you're unaware of this fact, you *do* realize that despite being linked, collarCHAT and collarME are really two sites, right? As I look to the top of this page, I see a link that says "My profile." When I click it, it takes me to my profile on THIS site.

One should not (and does not) need a personals profile to post on a message board. Just because you think so doesn't mean others agree with you.

It's really funny though, that you've decided to take the stand that those without profiles are "nutless" and yet you've already admitted that you're fully aware that a profile can and often is total bullshit.

You make no sense. You're entertaining....but you make no sense.

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/20/2009 10:51:15 PM

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typical catchcry of an adolescant refusing to answer issues on a point by point basis.

gutless excuse making as per above.

if your opinion means so much, why don't you have a profile up?

if it means nothing, why have you POSTED A REPLY in less than 30 minutes to what I said?

obviously it means a great deal to you, and you feel the need to reply FAST, just like when you replied so fast in the Palin thread that you self-admittedly left out an entire sentence in your snark-ass post that was required for your post to make sense at all.

so you realllllllllly aren't anyone to snark about making sense, kiddo. since you leave out entire sentences that are required for your own posts to make sense.

did you edit one of your initial snarky-whinges so it made sense, after leaving out AN INTEGRAL SENTENCE, in the Palin thread, yes or no?

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/20/2009 11:02:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: Gauge

So, please let me hear your thoughts.

In the context of something like your example, it serves well to point out clear contradictions.

As far as for the purpose of making inferences from someone's profile where not applicable (e.g."You identify as a TPE slave so obviously you have no interest in the individual rights of humans") it is a fallacious argument knows as an argumentum ad hominem (which is now commonly misused to describe someone just insulting them personally).

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/20/2009 11:11:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton
typical catchcry of an adolescant refusing to answer issues on a point by point basis.

gutless excuse making as per above.

if your opinion means so much, why don't you have a profile up?

I don't know whether it's your childish rantings or your misguided nature that cracks me up more.

As I said, if you look at the top of the page, there is a profile link. Mine indicates that, on this site, I do have a profile.

However, that being said. I 'assume' you're referring to 'another' site on which you demand people have a profile. And what purpose would this profile serve? What possible use could it be to me? I am not seeking a relationship, so I don't need to have a personal ad up. I have my own e-mail address, so I don't need the site to provide that. Anything I 'might' put on that profile would be of no use to anyone, least of all to me. So why put one up?

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton
if it means nothing, why have you POSTED A REPLY in less than 30 minutes to what I said?

I posted a reply because I find this humorous. As I said, you crack me up. You're kinda sad, but you still crack me up.

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton
obviously it means a great deal to you, and you feel the need to reply FAST, just like when you replied so fast in the Palin thread that you self-admittedly left out an entire sentence in your snark-ass post that was required for your post to make sense at all.

Ahh. So here we get to it. You're still pissed over an exchange in a thread that's been dead for over a week, so you whine about my not having a personal ad up for you to send hate mail to. Childish. Funny, but childish.

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton
did you edit one of your initial snarky-whinges so it made sense, after leaving out AN INTEGRAL SENTENCE, in the Palin thread, yes or no?

I'll be happy to answer that question if and only if (as with the other thread) you can show me how it is in any way relevant to the current topic. If you cannot, then you're once again hijacking a thread.

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/20/2009 11:20:49 PM

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well, since you're having a go point by point, I clearly DO make sense, and haven't needed to utterly/nadlessly edit my reply to you do do so (unlike your first "drive by" at me in the Palin thread).

So I guess you have a new fetich for CollarMe: "incongruous" or "inconsistent".

and as with slaveboy, UTTERLY avoiding the issues at hand, so, why is that?

why have NO profile and come back SO soon to answer me after stating I make no sense?

If I am so childish, what gets you off on my posts so much that you come back SO FAST to spend your ISP $ in replying, "Fartful Dodger"?

and the subject of this thread sort of says it all in regards to your leaping here to pull the usual "no profile" sideswipes. Which comes from FEAR.

FEAR of having a profile.

what are you scared of, Loki?

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/20/2009 11:27:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton
well, since you're having a go point by point, I clearly DO make sense, and haven't needed to utterly/nadlessly edit my reply to you do do so (unlike your first "drive by" at me in the Palin thread).

So I guess you have a new fetich for CollarMe: "incongruous" or "inconsistent".

and as with slaveboy, UTTERLY avoiding the issues at hand, so, why is that?

why have NO profile and come back SO soon to answer me after stating I make no sense?

If I am so childish, what gets you off on my posts so much that you come back SO FAST to spend your ISP $ in replying, "Fartful Dodger"?

and the subject of this thread sort of says it all in regards to your leaping here to pull the usual "no profile" sideswipes. Which comes from FEAR.

FEAR of having a profile.

what are you scared of, Loki?

Gawd you are cracking me up. This is like watching someone slowly lose their minds. It's really hilarious.

So now...because I don't have a profile *you* think I should have......I'm afraid of something. Wow, for someone who accuses me so much of dodging questions, you sure dodged an aweful lot I threw at you.

Furthermore, I already pointed out that I had a profile. On *this* site. It may not be the one you want me to have, but it *is* a profile.

Also, what in the blue hell does someone's profile or lack of a profile have to do with the speed at which they reply to a thread?

You're making less and less sense as you go. And then you start in with personal attacks and name calling. Wow...and I thought I would get no entertainment tonight.

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/20/2009 11:50:16 PM

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and yet, you keep replying, point by point.

so you either REALLLLLY get off on this or are the worst of dissemblers, really.

and replied SO fast, SO desperately.

so passionately.

MY MY.

I don't think you are scared, Little Loki, and I think I know WHY you have no profile.

(drum roll........................)

you want me.

you want me BADLY.

shall I put on fishnets and a corset for you, pseudo-pagan-norse-god boy?

(in a hoarse whisper):

"Will THIS make you happy?"

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RE: Is someone's profile relevant to a debate? - 7/21/2009 12:00:57 AM

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You remind me of the trainwreck celebrities that just have a total and public collapse. Are you having a mental breakdown? It sure looks like it. Either way, it is humorous. Keep it up. Watching where your mind goes from one type of attack to another is just mind-blowing. Shrinks could study you...if they could stop laughing at your lack of sense.

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