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a simple question - 7/17/2009 11:06:08 PM   
darkangel6989


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i want to know if any Dominant knows the answer to a simple question.... What direction does power flow in a true power exchange between a Master and slave?
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RE: a simple question - 7/17/2009 11:07:51 PM   
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RE: a simple question - 7/17/2009 11:10:23 PM   
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RE: a simple question - 7/17/2009 11:10:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Which Ever Direction that they decide to function within.

Also can you define True? Or Master? Or Slave? Because your particular definition of those words will color what the concept of a Power Exchange is.

In Short there is no Accurate answer to this question as a Power Dynamic is often as different from couple to couple as telephone numbers are from house to house.

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RE: a simple question - 7/17/2009 11:28:18 PM   
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"True" is probably not going to get you a lot of non-flamatory response.  Believe it or not ds is not some magical or logical program with a predetermined outcome.  It is a relationship and as such will wind and evolve according to the direction of people, who are not so magical or logical.
Aesop might have had a fable for your question but most people I know would say just enjoy what you do. 
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ORIGINAL: darkangel6989

Okay so my first post sucked and was very disrespectfull but i'm trying again here E/everyone......

i want to know if any Dominant knows the answer to a simple question.... What direction does power flow in a true power exchange between a Master and slave?

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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 12:17:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: darkangel6989

Okay so my first post sucked and was very disrespectfull but i'm trying again here E/everyone......

i want to know if any Dominant knows the answer to a simple question.... What direction does power flow in a true power exchange between a Master and slave?


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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 12:22:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Master= the top of the relationship
slave=bottom of the relationship
true= it's correct for the two or more people involved.

i know D/s is not some magical or logical program with a predetermined outcome and that it is what W/we make of it the outcome being up to who ever is involved.

i believe that the slave GRANTS the power to the Master and with it the free will of the slave…. but in accepting that power, the Master also accepts complete responsibility for the well being of the slave if he/she does not, he/she is not worthy to receive the power. When the slave grants her power (free will) to the Master, she/he also accepts total obedience to the Master. Whenever a Master fails to control or see to the well being of his/her slave, it is the right of the slave to withdraw that power and conversely whenever a slave fails to obey her/his Master. it is his/her right to punish/discipline or dismiss the slave.... that is what this girl was getting at E/everyone.... and i'm not saying there is a right or wrong way.... or even one set way... E/everyone is very different and i love that about people... it's an AMAZING ride through life.

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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 12:40:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well at least this time you have learned to cover your ass, but your question sounds as if you wonder if dominant's really know the answer.  Like you have something to enlighten us all with, like before, just said a bit more tactfully. You are preaching to the choir here.

Look, you have a long distance relationship with someone you have never met and you are young, you have a lot to learn. So when asking a question, it ought to be a question you want or need answers to, not a platform to make a personal statement... even tactfully done.

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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 12:43:53 AM   
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Like I said.. it goes both ways.   Without one there usually isnt the other....

how can he have power over me, if I dont grant it?  How can I have any power with him if he doesnt allow it?  and I refuse to give up my personal power.   I give over to him because he has given me reason to.  He gives me power because he recognizes that I wouldnt be the person I am without it.


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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 1:02:10 AM   
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Well at least this time you have learned to cover your ass, but your question sounds as if you wonder if dominant's really know the answer.  Like you have something to enlighten us all with, like before, just said a bit more tactfully. You are preaching to the choir here.

Look, you have a long distance relationship with someone you have never met and you are young, you have a lot to learn. So when asking a question, it ought to be a question you want or need answers to, not a platform to make a personal statement... even tactfully done.



 
  M’am i do not have a relationship at all, please look at my profile for that information if you want that’s all… not disrespect at all….. and i was just putting something up to see what people would say that is all. Yes i am young you are very much so correct and i do have allot to learn but that does not mean that i do not have something to bring to the table… That was a very bad side to me on the 1st post i did, it was my bratty side and i hate that side of me soooo much so i sincerely apologize to You and E/everyone.

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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 3:40:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: darkangel6989

Okay so my first post sucked and was very disrespectfull but i'm trying again here E/everyone......

i want to know if any Dominant knows the answer to a simple question.... What direction does power flow in a true power exchange between a Master and slave?

In the best of all possible world’s power is reciprocal as in:  
1.    given or felt by each toward the other; mutual; or
2.    performed and in return felt; or
3.    corresponding; matching; complementary; equivalent. 

‘Cos if it’s not I ain’t playin’ anymore.
(Prin: abiding by the Law of Reciprocity).

< Message edited by Prinsexx -- 7/18/2009 3:41:51 AM >

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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 3:43:28 AM   
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true power exchange


you answered your own question

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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 3:46:41 AM   
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What direction does power flow in a true power exchange between a Master and slave?
it comes from both equally...from my heart into his hands and his into mine.

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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 4:12:37 AM   
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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 4:17:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: darkangel6989

Okay so my first post sucked and was very disrespectfull but i'm trying again here E/everyone......

i want to know if any Dominant knows the answer to a simple question.... What direction does power flow in a true power exchange between a Master and slave?


That answer is a varied as the number of relationships, in My relationship it is a four way street however, it flows thus:
 
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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 7:14:44 AM   
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Counterclockwise.
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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 2:55:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: darkangel6989

Okay so my first post sucked and was very disrespectfull but i'm trying again here E/everyone......

i want to know if any Dominant knows the answer to a simple question.... What direction does power flow in a true power exchange between a Master and slave?

You answered your own question - it's called power *exchange* because Dom and sub feed off and complement each other's needs.

But no, the sub doesn't "GRANT" power to the Dom - that's NOT an exchange! A Dom without a sub makes for a lonely Dom and that's EXACTLY the same for a sub without a Dom. The point is that there can be no power exchange without both - which makes individual Dom and sub power equal. What isn't equal is how the control dynamic is implimented for power exchange to flow.

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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 3:07:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		i like that answer Sir thank you very very much.... that made me think allot and it is very true. i do not feel complete at all with out a Master and it sucks big time, my life is completly unfullfilling.... thank you for your post :)

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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 3:18:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Focus50
 it's called power *exchange* because Dom and sub feed off and complement each other's needs.
Pretty much matches what I say. I call power exchange a symbiotic relationship.

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RE: a simple question - 7/18/2009 3:56:28 PM   
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