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Sunnyfey -> Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/20/2009 10:59:19 PM)

A class I wish to present soon, so my darling Leathermen, care to help a girl out?

What are you specifics when it comes to your scotch,brandy,port ect? How do you wish them served? What kind of glass?

Ciagrs, What kind do you like? How do you like them cut? butane torch lighter? Or wooden matches? Do you worry about cigar hangovers?

Whats kind of saftey issues, are most important to you? Should you carry asprin for heart problems? What kind of health issues should a new Leather boy or girl be particularly worried about when thinking about serveing Leathermen/Leather women?

Leather care 101, cleaning and careing for your leathers, what do you perfer your Leather boy or girl to use? How often do you wish your Leathers to be cleaned?

Leather boy/girl carry all, What are good thing for a Leather boy or girl to always have on them? Small med kit? Lighters? Boot Polish? EMT shears?

Any and all ideas are very appreciated!!! Thank you for your time!





NihilusZero -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 12:50:23 AM)

*Sits in a corner and stares just to make you comfortably uncomfortable. Sips Drambuie. Lights clove.*




Whenready -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 12:54:34 AM)

Scotch is for hot toddies.

Whiskey (the real stuff, not the scots whisky follow on) should be served in a square cut glass. The only thing in a glass with whiskey in it should be more whiskey.

An Irish single malt (Bushmills is a good one) is in my (here not at all humble) opinion best. The Irish blends are superior to scotch, canadian, japanese and any other pretenders.

Biased? MOI?




CatdeMedici -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 4:30:40 AM)

How can you present a class when you don't know the content? 
 
 
 




CaringandReal -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 4:52:43 AM)

Leatherpeople are now composed exclusively of (former) readers of Cigar Afficianado? When exactly did this happen? Either I've slept though another sea-change or this is one of those arcane west-coast-behavioral things that only they understand. :/

Seriously, is this a joke or a joke class? I'm afraid I can't quite tell because all these fast-flying stereotypes have whacked me in the noggin so many times that they have temporariliy addled my wits.

This thread does have potential, though. I've always loved a good cigar...used properly. La Gloria Cubana maduros aren't bad.

PS: You forgot the keys on a long chain.

Aside to NZ: I think that a person capable of making a thread like this is going to need a lot more than a long stare to make her uncomfortable.




Missokyst -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 6:16:23 AM)

When I read it my mind immediately went to the days of the Playboy clubs (do they still have those?), with guys in smoking jackets and open necked shirts.  But the only leather they used were in the loafers or the thick wallet full of cash.
Kyst




SimplyMichael -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 6:41:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

*Sits in a corner and stares just to make you comfortably uncomfortable. Sips Drambuie. Lights clove.*


NZ and I rarely agree but Drambuie is divine.

The trick with presenting classes is getting outside of your own head and experience and presenting a subject in a way that will appeal and inform a wide audience.

Most kids today don't know that certain forms of alcohol were meant to be served in sometimes rather specific glass and stemware.  I would certainly talk about that.  Talk about the traditions behind various forms of "manly" alcohol, what should be served neat, which ones over ice, etc.  Someone mentioned Playboy and something I have always loved, smoking jackets.  Talk about how to evoke certain moods, the playboy era, the smoky backroom, a dark leatherbar with a well worn pool table that is rarely used to play pool on, etc.

However, I think mixing drinks and safety seems a bit overly broad.




chiaThePet -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 6:55:16 AM)


I was going to say, Popeye's, Red Bull, Lipitor and Cialis, but then I realized you said Leathermen, not Letterman.

My apologies to you and Dave.

chia* (the pet)




DesFIP -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 7:19:51 AM)

The Man prefers Canadian whiskey but thankfully doesn't smoke. And cigars are just nasty.

My kid the cowgirl uses Bick's for leather cleaning; chaps, tack, saddle. And those leather wipes are superb for last minute touch ups.




Sunnyfey -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 8:10:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CaringandReal

Leatherpeople are now composed exclusively of (former) readers of Cigar Afficianado? When exactly did this happen? Either I've slept though another sea-change or this is one of those arcane west-coast-behavioral things that only they understand. :/

Seriously, is this a joke or a joke class? I'm afraid I can't quite tell because all these fast-flying stereotypes have whacked me in the noggin so many times that they have temporariliy addled my wits.

This thread does have potential, though. I've always loved a good cigar...used properly. La Gloria Cubana maduros aren't bad.

PS: You forgot the keys on a long chain.

Aside to NZ: I think that a person capable of making a thread like this is going to need a lot more than a long stare to make her uncomfortable.



Being apart of the Leather Community in my town, these are things I notice about the Leathermen I  know. Most of them drink some form of scotch/whiskey/Drambuie ect, I have noticed pretty much all of them smoke cigars, obviously, they all have some form of Leather that needs to be cared for. I myself know how to cut a cigar the way they like it, serve a scotch they way they like it. As for the Leather care part of it, I am a bootblack, I know how take care of Leather. I know about 15 different way to do it, and everyone has a slight difference in their Leathercare rituals ect. And as for the safety part, I know of at least 3 of them have heart problem ect, so, I know how to take care of it, but alot of others dont. So yes I KNOW what I need to do to take care of the Leathermen I love.

But others do it differently, thus my reasoning for the thread.

I could easily teach a class about The Feeding and Care of Leathermen....In Tulsa. I started the thread to learn about other peoples way of doing things so I can cover a larger base of ideals ect, in my class.







Sunnyfey -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 8:36:15 AM)

As for the alcohols, its rare I dont see someone drinking scotch or whiskey at the Eagle. Though, I do have quite a few notes on serveing Drambuie *ahem*. Then theres always the few who perfer a particular beer around here. I probly should have mentioned that. *mutters about corona and lime*. I dont think I've noticed anyone drinking rum while enjoying their cigars but I can imagine how a rum would flow well with specific brands of cigars.

One thing that needs to be mentioned, drinking WATER while smoking cigars is a good thing. I made that mistake...once. God help me if I ever do it agian. So I can cut and light a cigar, but far be it from me to smoke one without wanting to kill myself for it the next day. I never whould have though you could get a hangover from smoking one...bleh.




NihilusZero -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 8:42:01 AM)

This thread is making me inspired to want to take up pipe smoking again. Suddenly getting flashbacks to a nice cherry cavendish...




Sunnyfey -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 8:44:48 AM)

Oh pipes I forgot about pipes.......I bet you'd enjoy the winter berry blend from the local shop here. It taste like warm nights by the fire...sort of carmaly but still has the hints of blackberries ect. Very refind sort of taste, my grandfather used to enjoy it in the evenings, and oddly enough my old shop forman enjoyed it in the winter.  Every now and then he would roll a cigarette of it in the morning for me during our break. Very nice stuff.




HeavansKeeper -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 9:55:46 AM)

Sunnyfey, it makes me smile that such a young soul has an interest in the old world debaucheries.

The only articles of leather I wear daily are belts and boots. As far as I'm concerned, belts scarcely ever need care. I like my boots polished every two weeks. Ignite the wax, let it cover nearly the entire pot, snuff it with the lid, wait a few seconds, then get to it. Strong but not forceful rubbing in, quick (but not hasty) buffing.

For basic boozery, short glasses are fine. Square is nice (personally I'm a fan of etched bottom round glasses). My rule of thumb: Cheaper booze, more ice. Ice inhibits certain complicated flavor and aromatic compounds. If very cheap, add soda/water.

Cigars... Truthfully, I cannot tell between butane and match lit in a double blind test... Especially if a pretty brunette has started it for me. Matches are a nice touch, though. I prefer a mid sized slice, but very straight. I want to see the cigar closing slightly before the cut is made... Too open and it falls apart. Too tight and I have to suck too hard to enjoy the flavors and texture of the cigar.

A good cigar can become a bad cigar in just a few days. Overnight, depending on climate. Humidor is key... I'd rather smoke a moist Gas Station Dominican than a crackled Montecristo. If you are starting stogies for the man, puff only until the smoke trickles out of the mouth end. Using your mouth like a stoker makes the experience less pleasant.

Health and safety is a personal thing... My medkits always contain Neosporin, bandages (Ace style), band-aids, butterflies, gloves, a small sewing kit, a pain killer, small scissors, and common OTC drugs: Pepto/dramamine.... If Sir is diabetic, that has special concerns - maybe some glucose tablets or just sugar packets. Though I'm not a leather person myself, I can't imagine any health related issues correlating with being into leather... Maybe chaffing and carpet-like burns..?

Again, with leather... It reshapes over time. A large piece like a harness or jacket will wrinkle if allowed to sit in a pile for too long. Overnight should be fine. Long term care: condition and hang. Belts and buckles, I wouldn't hang over a hanger. They take a harsh bend in the center, roll it into a ball and set it in a drawer (no direct sunlight). Leather care and repair goods... If you don't know how to repair leather (and don't want to ruin the piece) don't try. But yes, EMT shears (dull nosed, short blade, often serrated) make short work of leather. (This is because of a lever action by having long handles and short blades - I'm such a dork).

In short, if comes down to the personal tastes of each person... But certainly express your interest in pandering to these whims. That's very sexy.




Sunnyfey -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 10:03:37 AM)

*dies a little inside*

Fireing polish will make the various good for leather chemicals in the wax disipate over time and render the wax useless.
Boots like to be conditioned and so do belts

[:D] Sorry, lol as a bootblack, I go all ocd over things like that.




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 10:04:32 AM)

quote:

Lights clove.
quote:

ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

This thread is making me inspired to want to take up pipe smoking again. Suddenly getting flashbacks to a nice cherry cavendish...


First clove... now cherry cavendish.... *fans myself*

Woosh.. Carry me back to ole' Virginny...

Frankly, I am not a huge fan of cigars -- but a pipe... clove or clove and vanilla cigarettes... Well... those and English Leather can go a LONG way with me!

Dame Calla




Sunnyfey -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 10:08:44 AM)

*purrrrrs* mmmm english leather.......




leadership527 -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 5:48:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NihilusZero
This thread is making me inspired to want to take up pipe smoking again. Suddenly getting flashbacks to a nice cherry cavendish...


*laughs* Oh god I wish you hadn't said that. Back in college myself and a friend used to smoke a pipe. He actually disliked the smoking part but loved teh smell of a good pipe tobacco (as do I). We always swore that when we grew up and got rich, we'd pay someone to walk around behind us and smoke a pipe all day *laughs*.




Honsoku -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 5:57:07 PM)

1: Rum, chilled.

2: I don't smoke.

3: N/A

4: Don't own any leathers (except for shoes)

5: A general purpose multi-tool and floss.




LadyPact -> RE: Care and Feeding of Leathermen 101 (7/21/2009 9:25:19 PM)

My dear fey......

Remember always that not just the stemware is important.  The style and grace in which these things are done is more important than any crystal.  The palm of the hand, the angle of the head, the position of the eyes are just as great as this.  A drink can come in the prettiest glass in all of the world, but served incorrectly, it will lose it's allure.

Personally, I like My drinks served in formal style.  Palm of the hand serving the glass, steadied with the other only if there is a stem, kneeling upon presentation, eyes lowered, glass raised.  The drink itself depends on the prior events of the evening. 

For smoking, butane is preferred in My case.  I do happen to like flavored tobaccos.  The key is to find the right match for the drink.

As for safety issues, this is one place that a lot of us fail.  We're quick to ask bottoms about their health concerns.  This isn't always true the other way around.  Is it not in the bottom's best interest to know if the top has health issues?  What if that top has heart problems, diabetes, or some other physical ailment?  How many folks play with tops and they don't know their medical history, even though we preach it that every top should know these things about the bottom?

If you would like, when I'm good and settled, I'll send you some notes that I have on the matter.




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