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CaringandReal -> RE: The Great Collarme Pissing Contest (7/26/2009 8:01:07 AM)
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ORIGINAL: barelynangel
Michael you run around stalking Leonidas in everything he posts outside of the Gorean forum, you look like a bitch in heat looking fir his attention. And your insecurity is showing that you actually issued a challenge based on a public online DISCUSSION BOARD. Are you kidding me?
angel
One part of this characterization is pretty inaccurate, methinks. Leonidas chases SimplyMichael just as much as SimplyMichael chases Leonidas, so if you are going to describe this behavior as a 'bitch in heat looking for his attention," then I hope you know you are describing both men, unless you believe that when Man A does something it means X but when Man B does the very same thing it means Y. (there's a word for that, you know, I believe it begins with an "h"?) What you call stalking was engaged in heavily by both parties, and is what I call "inflamatory" responses to the others' posts. Once something got going, neither one backed down or didn't respond to the other until their conversation was many, many, many exchanges deep.
Some examples, perhaps? I'm assuming the person who engages the other first is the "stalker." If you respond to someone who writes you a message that diagrees with you and you disagree with them back, I don't exactly see that as stalking, I see that as debate, particularly if both parties use the same sorts of language when engaging in such a debate, and as far as I can tell in each of the threads I am quoting below, both parties used equally heated language.
Here are the three recent "big" ones (in terms of number of back-and-forth posts)
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2720981/mpage_1/tm.htm (aka the thread that started the pissing contest)
SinplyMichael voices his opinion on the topic of the thread on my page 1, post #18. It's a response to another poster, but not Leonidas and it doesn't quote Leonidas.
Leonidas also voices his own opinion to the thread on my page 1, post #15.
Then Leonidas responds to Michael on my page 2, post #26, and if this isn't an inflamtory "bitch in heat" comment, then nothing is: "I cannot even imagine what it must be like to live in the hellhole that you call a mind."
After that remark, there was a lot of heated back and forth between the two
Due to the inflamatory nature of the comment, Two Stalker Points Assigned - Leonidas
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2712356/mpage_1/tm.htm Why Demonizing Bad Doms is bad
SM started that thread. Post #1, everyone's Page 1
After that remark, there was a lot of heated back and forth between the two
L. responds to SM, my page 2, Post #21. One Stalker Point Assigned - Leonidas
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2702003/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2702156 Qns about 24/7
My page 1, post #10: SM responds to L with an inflamatory comment: "So when your wife pays for your boat, you are still somehow "always dominant"?
After that remark, there was a lot of heated back and forth between the two.
Two Stalker Points Awarded - Simply Michael
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Yes I know, only three examples. I stopped looking after I reached page six in an individual's posting history. I have a house to clean today. :) But I did check the content of several other threads in that posting history (about 10 total) and found no other history of SimplyMichael chasing Leonidas around or vice-versa.
So who is actually stalking who? I'd say that this contest is close to a dead heat, although maybe not a bitch in heat, unless you are willing to apply the term to both parties equally. FWIW, as far as the actual ideas are concerned my opinions are much closer to L's than to SM's, but simply because I agree with one more than the other doesn't mean I can swallow the idea the one I disagree with is therefore a bitch-in-heat stalker...unless there is clear evidence for that.
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