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brumindubsub -> Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 8:05:57 AM)

I was talking to a pro Domme on here, and do any of you on this site belive like i have now come to belive that domme who ask for tribute or for nice things are in fact subs.Now dont get me wrong i have no problem with pro dommes/blackmail dommes money dommes etc.They provide a service and are needed.
When a sub tributes a domme then the sub is getting a service he is telling the domme i want you to do this and i will give you this,so the sub in fact is being dominant by telling the domme what he wants.The Domme is now the sub and bending to the wishes of the sub..And yet some of these dommes then say real life and live the life as a domme..Now maybe im thick but how are they,this were my problem is you carnt but a domme its not real.Subs who pay dommes are not subs at all.Again nothing wrong with this,just people need to be more honest in profiles and say the truth it makes it easier then.As many of you no so many fakes messers fools liers con artists on this site.Pro dommes should have a special section then this way they can look for subs who want to domme them with money and leave geniune people alone.I myself would not enterain the idea of the domme i belonged to have other people pay her money she would then only be a sub in my eyes..Its a domme i seek not a sub or money motivated person..




Apocalypso -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 8:09:42 AM)

No.




DarkSteven -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 8:10:54 AM)

So you live in Dublin....

Pro Dommes have a job.  They do it, they get paid.

When they go home, they're liable to be anything.  Dom, sub. Mistress, slave.  Hell, some of them make their money Topping men and they're actually lesbians.

BTW, the dynamic where the bottom tells the Top what to do, is known as service Topping.

Welcome to cm, if in fact you are new.




subtlebutterfly -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 8:13:20 AM)

Correct me if I'm wrong..but isn't lobodom also Irish?




Arpig -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 8:14:52 AM)

I am going to put in my [sm=2cents.gif]. No taking money to domme a sub does not make them subs, it makes them employees. A sub giving money does not make him  a dom, it makes him an employer. Not the same sort of relationship at all.




DesFIP -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 8:15:36 AM)

You are assuming that a pro domme will do anything a client asks for. They won't. They will do the things they want to do and let you pick from that list. What that means is that no matter how much money they offer you to sissify you, if they don't enjoy that, they will refuse you and suggest you go somewhere else.

And many of them are lifestyle mistresses as well. But since they have hordes of men begging them to do stuff, they earn money doing it before they go home to their own sub.




cloudboy -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 8:17:34 AM)


By this logic, all workers are submissive.




UnseelieCourt -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 8:19:26 AM)

Depends on the Domme in question.  I know or have known a few pro dommes over the years.  One is a lesbian-leaning, bisexual switch -- she's dominant to men and submissive to women.  She also prefers for her significant others to be women.  Working as a pro domme lets her exercise her dominant tendencies without damaging her personal relationships.  Another acquaintance who worked as a pro domme is dominant.  Period.  Not a submissive bone in her body.  However, she treated her clients the way a client should be treated in any business relationship.  She met their needs in a way that satisfied her needs.  She was professional and polite, but it was always all about the business relationship they had.  It just so happens she was always in control. 




SoulPiercer -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 8:37:50 AM)

No. But pro subs are really Dommes.

Pro sub: "Give your money and you can whip my ass."
Paying Dom: "Okay."
Pro sub: "Good boy."

Just sayin.




stella41b -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 9:35:08 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: brumindubsub

Now dont get me wrong i have no problem with pro dommes/blackmail dommes money dommes etc.They provide a service and are needed.



quote:

ORIGINAL: brumindubsub

And yet some of these dommes then say real life and live the life as a domme..



quote:

ORIGINAL: brumindubsub

As many of you no so many fakes messers fools liers con artists on this site.Pro dommes should have a special section then this way they can look for subs who want to domme them with money and leave geniune people alone.



quote:

ORIGINAL: brumindubsub

.Its a domme i seek not a sub or money motivated person..



What an interesting perspective. So what you are saying is that a pro-domme can neither be dominant nor genuine, simply because she asks for money?

Hmmmm.. Okay.




beargonewild -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 12:59:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: brumindubsub

I was talking to a pro Domme on here, and do any of you on this site belive like i have now come to belive that domme who ask for tribute or for nice things are in fact subs.Now dont get me wrong i have no problem with pro dommes/blackmail dommes money dommes etc.They provide a service and are needed.
When a sub tributes a domme then the sub is getting a service he is telling the domme i want you to do this and i will give you this,so the sub in fact is being dominant by telling the domme what he wants.The Domme is now the sub and bending to the wishes of the sub..And yet some of these dommes then say real life and live the life as a domme..Now maybe im thick but how are they,this were my problem is you carnt but a domme its not real.Subs who pay dommes are not subs at all.Again nothing wrong with this,just people need to be more honest in profiles and say the truth it makes it easier then.As many of you no so many fakes messers fools liers con artists on this site.Pro dommes should have a special section then this way they can look for subs who want to domme them with money and leave geniune people alone.I myself would not enterain the idea of the domme i belonged to have other people pay her money she would then only be a sub in my eyes..Its a domme i seek not a sub or money motivated person..



Wow....nipping a wee too much in the whiskey mate?




Lashra -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 1:08:25 PM)

No I do not think so. Perhaps some are, but certainly not all.

~Lashra




CatdeMedici -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 1:30:25 PM)

No one who demands payment for any service at that moment is submissive, YOU the payer are as you acquiesce to pay for the said service, be it ProDoming or getting a hamburger.




brumindubsub -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 2:51:52 PM)

Thanks you for all you input.
I think over all if you are a pro domme and take money this is your job,so no way your life style maybe once upon a time they might of been at the start.Its a shame people have to get involved in this life who are interested in only money,then again this is like most things in life money talks.But a sub that pays a tibute is indeed the domm awomen that recives payment for a service is the sub,When or if i meet a domme it will be 50/50 in antthing to do with money.I think this is fair and show both are serious and not into the make money side.




Apocalypso -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 2:53:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: brumindubsub
I think over all if you are a pro domme and take money this is your job,so no way your life style maybe once upon a time they might of been at the start.Its a shame people have to get involved in this life who are interested in only money,then again this is like most things in life money talks.

I'm sure there are some pro dommes who are 'only' in it for the money.  But I've known a fair few.  And I can honestly say I've never met one who was like that. 




Lostkitten3 -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 2:56:26 PM)

I tried it for a while, got bored and quit. The guys are just gross. They can't pay me enough to forget what they look like, and they act all needy and pathetic and manipulative. Ew.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 3:09:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: brumindubsub

I was talking to a pro Domme on here, and do any of you on this site belive like i have now come to belive that domme who ask for tribute or for nice things are in fact subs.Now dont get me wrong i have no problem with pro dommes/blackmail dommes money dommes etc.They provide a service and are needed.
When a sub tributes a domme then the sub is getting a service he is telling the domme i want you to do this and i will give you this,so the sub in fact is being dominant by telling the domme what he wants.The Domme is now the sub and bending to the wishes of the sub..And yet some of these dommes then say real life and live the life as a domme..Now maybe im thick but how are they,this were my problem is you carnt but a domme its not real.Subs who pay dommes are not subs at all.Again nothing wrong with this,just people need to be more honest in profiles and say the truth it makes it easier then.As many of you no so many fakes messers fools liers con artists on this site.Pro dommes should have a special section then this way they can look for subs who want to domme them with money and leave geniune people alone.I myself would not enterain the idea of the domme i belonged to have other people pay her money she would then only be a sub in my eyes..Its a domme i seek not a sub or money motivated person..



Yes....all Pro Dommes are actual subs.

(I'm here to help).




HeavansKeeper -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 5:53:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SoulPiercer

No. But pro subs are really Dommes.

Pro sub: "Give your money and you can whip my ass."
Paying Dom: "Okay."
Pro sub: "Good boy."

Just sayin.



... Well I thought it was funny...

I once asked a stripper how many girls have regular guys who come in requesting dances... Then I asked what happens when they change girls. Her answer: "It is what it is." I assume pro-dommes lean one of two ways. One: "No, bitch - You give me money and I do what I please." Two: "You pay me, we have a little fun... You like the acts, I like the acts... What's the big deal? If you want a woman to dominate you out of sheer enjoyment, go meet one."

I never understood what the hubbub is about pro-dommes not being genuine. Everything from a classy well known dominant and well established dungeon to a hooker with a whip - Buy what you want, don't buy what you don't want.




Joseff -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 6:34:43 PM)

If you parse words correctly, i suppose you can twist the logic enough to make every dominant a submissive and wise-versa. Then again, a skillful wordsmith can make a valid argument for just about anything. If your problem is that you want a dominant woman, and all you can find is Pro Dommes, I don't see how the logical gymnastics helps the situation.




peppermint -> RE: Are Pro Dommes Really subs (7/26/2009 6:49:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: brumindubsub
Its a shame people have to get involved in this life who are interested in only money,then again this is like most things in life money talks.


I have to agree with you here.  It IS a damned shame that people need money to buy food, to put a roof over their heads, and receive health care.  The world would be a better place if  no one needed money to stay alive.  Alas, it isn't going to happen in your lifetime so accept reality. 

Those Dommes who are only interested in money should be happy to buy clothing, buy toys, and sometimes buy dungeon time so that male submissives can have their itches scratched.  Any TRUE Domina will gladly buy butt plugs, floggers, strap ons, thigh high boots, and paddles rather than eat.  It's simple economics.  A TRUE Domina can not be TRUE if she isn't willing to sacrifice herself and her family for the kinks of the poor downtrodden male submissives who want to be itched for free.  Actually by having the male submissive paying for sessions, the male sub is paying his fair share of the Domina's costs.

It's also a shame that there seem to be many more needy male submissives than there are TRUE Dominas.  If this were not the case everyone could pair off in a TRUE D/s relationship and live happily ever after sharing expenses and playing at night.  As long as the inequity of numbers remains as it is, there will be jobs for ProDommes.  As to those male submissives who would never ever lower themselves to hiring a Pro...more power too you.  Hope you find your TRUE Domina.  There is lots of competition.  Whining on a message board is not going to improve your chances. 




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