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Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 1:13:13 PM   
bitch2hurt


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Status: offline 		I am going to be topping a man for the first time, and I'd like to get some ideas on humiliating him.  I have already thought of:
- taking him dress shopping, trying on dresses, showing me how he looks in them, and asking other shoppers what they think;
- making him walk downtown in his new feminine outfit;
- making him get down on his knees and ask every man he encounters if he may give them a blowjob, or clean their shoes with his tongue;
- taking him into a bar to do the above;
- verbal humiliation;
- making him pee into his pants out in public, then making him stand there and point out to everyone what he has done; and, at the end of the night:
- making him go skinny dipping in his motel pool, and locking him out of his room.

Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 1:17:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		wow so you going to be asking shopper and pub goers consent first? that will take ages

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 1:18:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd suggest  you reconsider the issue of whether it is valid to involve other people in your kinks without their express consent to do so.

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< Message edited by Apocalypso -- 7/26/2009 1:19:03 PM >

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 1:18:48 PM   
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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 1:22:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good ideas, BUT how do you know this will not get him off and not work the opposite way that you are looking for. You cannot humiliate anyone without knowing them or something about what would humiliate them. Also having him ask total stranger things is non acceptable as you are bring them into your kink without there consent and a few of those could land his ass in a lot of trouble.

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 1:26:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		YOU DO know that a couple of your ideas could put him in physical harm, especially having him ask every man to give them a bj? To me that doesn't sound like a situation I'd want to place anyone, and doesn't reflect upon myself in a positive light either.


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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 1:33:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's also an additional issue with this specifically.  Yes, it shouldn't be like this.  But realistically, there is a change of stirring up homophobia locally if you play up to the "sexually predatory gay man" stereotype in this way.  You try this out on the wrong person and you can't be sure they won't respond by going gaybashing later...

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 2:38:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		All good points.  Thank you for your input.

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 2:44:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bitch2hurt
I am going to be topping a man for the first time, and I'd like to get some ideas on humiliating him.

1. Have you met him in real?
2. What is his primary psychological kink?
3. What is his primary physical kink?
4. Would you be humiliating him primarily for your pleasure, or for his?


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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 2:49:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		What you are planning could get him and you killed. There are people out there that hate crossdressers and will not hestiate to hurt/kill them if they get the chance. Use common sense and think of his safety and your own. If you want to humilate him why not have him dress for you in private or with some friends you know are safe.

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 2:55:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you put a bit of work in, you could even talk to some friends and have them consent to be involved with this, without letting him know that you've talked to them.

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 3:38:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm rolling my eyes here a little. If you are going to include other people complete strangers into the mix, keep to offering him to lick their shoes clean with his tounge.

When it comes to including people without their consent into things, try to apply a little common sense. Also know the risks involved, some people might get offending and literally want to beat his and your ass for being freaks.

If you are in bar or club where other freaks hang out at, not that big of a deal.

In terms of humilation, you don't have to play upon gender. You just have to know what embrasses them or is humilating to them. This is individual specific.

Some guys don't find any humilation involved in being dressed up in women's clothing and dragged around town, if anything they get a charge off the reaction it instills in other people. Basically, where they love it because it's fucks with complete strangers head. So it's really not very humilating at all.

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 3:40:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd say your approach wouldn't make you a safe top to begin with, regardless of the gender of the person you are topping.

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 4:06:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		The best way you can probably humiliate him without involving the general public is... ask him to suck your ever so small cock!

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 4:07:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bitch2hurt

I am going to be topping a man for the first time, and I'd like to get some ideas on humiliating him.  I have already thought of:
- taking him dress shopping, trying on dresses, showing me how he looks in them, and asking other shoppers what they think;
- making him walk downtown in his new feminine outfit;
- making him get down on his knees and ask every man he encounters if he may give them a blowjob, or clean their shoes with his tongue;
- taking him into a bar to do the above;
- verbal humiliation;
- making him pee into his pants out in public, then making him stand there and point out to everyone what he has done; and, at the end of the night:
- making him go skinny dipping in his motel pool, and locking him out of his room.

Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated.


As said above, humiliation is very specific to the individual. Get to know him, and what humiliates him specifically. Talk to him about it. We can tell you all day long, what we think is humiliating. But it may have nothing to do with the kind of humiliation that would work for him.

Also as said above, your ideas for public humilation are not okay because they would nonconsensually involve others.
 
Also, would you really want him giving random BJ's to strangers? Think of the deadly, incurable or just plain yucky diseases that he could get.
Have you seen picture of herpes, and genital warts? Ew. 

Plus there really is a lot of homophobia out there. Strangers whom you approach may be armed with weapons, or just beat one or both of you to death with their bare hands. And I agree that your ideas may fuel later homophobic acts, as well.

Verbal humiliation is yummy to my slaveboy and I, and if you want to know more of the stuff that works for us you can read my journal. Just remember, ask your boy what works for him. Because maybe none of the stuff that we like would. Talk with him at length about this for your answers. Get a good feel for him.  
 

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 4:37:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lasha expressed the risks involved better than I did. If you do this make certain you take him out to a Gay Bar or a place where cross dressing is acceptable.

One Cavet in including or trying to incorperate other people into things, is that you better have fucking people skills. If you don't have people skills or don't do very well with social settings, you might want to rethink things.

You have to have a knack for making friends quickly with somebody who just might otherwise want to kick your ass. I'm trying to think how to best put this into words. You almost have to had a talent or social knack for it.

If you are not very good with dealing with a lot of different types of personalities that various people have. If you suck at reading body language, and you suck at striking up conversations and doing crazy things yourself. You best better not drag a submissive into the mix and attempt this. You need to have good skills at quick diffusion and verbal control of situations. If you have not mastered the art of making friends with people that would otherwise want to kick your ass. You might want to rethink this some.

I don't know what your real time people skills are like, even if they are great you are taking a risk. Be aware of this too, you might end up in a situation where you will become the one being more humilated by a complete strangers than the bottom/sub is. People will look at you because it's obvious you are the one running the freak show.

Now, you can simply make an appearence somewhere, and see who is drawn or attracted to you guys in a positive way. Those people are generally pretty safe bets at including in on this. Other people just might want to watch for their own entertainment. Be on the look out for those that take offense. Some people will shun away without saying a word. Some people can become confrontation.

I'm sort of sitting here thinking about how much easier things would be without gender cross dressing, or offering him to suck cock or lick shoes with tounge.

You could play upon forcing him to act dumb as a box full of rocks. Call it a form of male bimbofication. Basically just force him to act stupid and as retarded as his can get. Make him act like he has the mind of a 3 year old child or something.

Have him go hit on extremely beautiful women, every time he get's turned down that's a little humilating. If he's good at hitting on extremely beautiful women well find something else.

Have him hit on extremely beautiful women while acting as dumb as a box full of rocks. That should be humilating in itself.

Force him to talk a million miles a minute. Have him talk as fast as he can when interacting with other people while you are out and about.

You don't have to play upon sexuality for things to be humilating.




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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 5:02:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just don't believe this. I mean, you're not serious about wanting to go through with this, are you?

I mean, you've taken on something about which you don't seem to have a clue about with someone you don't know and probably don't understand and then you come to a general message boards for ideas?

Isn't there like some village which is missing your presence?

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 5:13:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Think of it like this, Stella.  It's a PSA of the types of tops to avoid if the bottom would like to avoid harm.

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 7:03:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a question for you, why do alll your ideas center around humilation involving the use of other people or public places?

You should be able to humilate somebody in private and without the use of other people.

If you are good you can focus the act of humilation to be a learning experience for the sub/bottom in question, To better illustrate this point. Take somebody who is Wall Street type of person and force them to be a garbage man for the day. This may or may not be a humilating experience for some, but I think the example sort of illustrates the point.

If somebody is very vain, dress them up in old beat up ugly clothing. There are so many ways the act of humilation can serve a purpose. However, first and foremost you need to know them.

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RE: Ideas on humiliating a man - 7/26/2009 7:32:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		The OP states in his profile he has no experience topping which would explain why this sounds like a poorly thought out "Public Disgrace" video.

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