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BitaTruble -> RE: Breath Play (2/20/2006 9:31:44 PM)
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I'd like to apologize if I've ruffled any feathers, since apparently my dislike of scare tactics was taken as a personal attack and an offer to rip apart my previous post.
You see scare tactics, I see clear warning. I ripped apart your post because it needed to be done. A newbie reading your post could have inferred there were little or no dangers to breath play because of your choice of words and phrases. Using things like 'normal' and 'safe', and 'use your head, all will be well' don't hold hands very well with cutting off one's air supply.
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I do so love playing Devil's advocate, though.
Given the context of your post, I believe you're misinformed on what it means to be a devil's advocate.
devil's advocate (n.) One who argues against a cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply for the sake of argument or to determine the validity of the cause or position.
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I completely agree that if there's some form of edge play that's just something you aren't comfortable with then don't do it, everyone has that right.
I agree.
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But when giving out advice, please try to be accurate and objective.
Yes, please do.
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I've been doing a little research myself. For instance, I found that the nervous cells in the brain will start to die within 3-7 minutes after complete oxygen deprivation. The average human can hold his or her breath for 1 minute. So... I think it's pretty safe to say that a person isn't going to die from holding their breath until they can't take it anymore.
And you would be wrong to say that ... that's my point. You make statements which you are ill prepared to make or defend with scientific facts and while they 'seem' logical, there is no veracity to them at all. You think it 'sounds good' and that you are speaking from a place of expertise when you most certainly are not.
'It's the oxygen in your blood stream not your lungs which matters. Once you have breathed in and held your breath for about ten to fifteen seconds there will be little further gaseous exchange of oxygen into your blood, so it is irrelevant whether you keep holding your breath or not. The feeling of having to
breathe in is caused by the build up of CO2 in your blood (& lungs to some extent), so it may help relieve the feeling a bit if you trickle your breath out slowly, but it won't actually affect your survivability other than making you a bit more comfortable. Carbon monoxide (CO) is not produced by the body, but is, rather, a by-product of the combustion of hydrocarbons, so is found in car exhaust fumes and gas boiler outlets etc. It islethal and once in to your bloodstream is stable and very hard to remove. So unless you want to die a nasty death, or get brain damage, don't mess around with carbon monoxide. For that matter Carbon dioxide (CO2) will also kill you if you get enough of it.'
Perhaps you missed that information in your research. I would suggest you do more research if you think that the only danger in breath play is when you get to the point where you are struggling to breath. Damage and death can happen WELL BEFORE you get to that point.
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When that happens, it's time for the Top to LET GO. That's using your head, and it's totally controllable.
There is not a Top in the world that can gauge how much CO2 has gone into your blood stream. It's totally uncontrollable.
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It is a calculated risk.
A calculated risk has variables which are known and considered whereas breath play has variables which are unknown and cannot be considered. It's not a calculated risk, it's just a risk and a deadly risk at that.
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For me, it's a highly enjoyable one.
As it is for many people and most are clueless as to the risk they take in engaging in such play.
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Do learn all that you can about it, and ask questions know all the angles. Listen to me, or don't --
I would suggest, emphatically, that no one do listen to you because, frankly, you don't know what you're talking about.
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Just find the facts for yourself.
That's one of the few pieces of advice which you give that I can agree with and it's a piece of advice I think you should consider following yourself.
For the record, yes, my feathers get VERY ruffled when the clueless try to speak from positions of authority and give out information which can KILL people.
Celeste
sources:
http://breathing.com
http://www.chestjournal.org
http://www.emedicinehealth.com
http://health.yahoo.com
http://drgreen.com
http://delsea.k12.nj.us
http://factmonster.com
Websters Universal Encyclopedic Dictionary
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