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angelic -> RE: Breath Play (2/22/2006 8:47:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie Smothering seems to be a less risky alternative, no? Actually with smothering you can't see the persons face or whats going on. We do choking (hands, belt, rope) and have played around with plastic bags, but I would consider smothering more dangerous than those because you just don't have the same kind of feedback and its hard to tell with say a pillow exactly how much air you are cutting off. C~ plastic to me seems extraordinarily dangerous... just my opinion, tho

michaelGA -> RE: Breath Play (2/22/2006 8:50:25 AM)
i have heard that orgasms are more intense during such play...is this accurate?

angelic -> RE: Breath Play (2/22/2006 8:56:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA i have heard that orgasms are more intense during such play...is this accurate? hi Michael... for me it's indescribeable... but again as has been stated here very emphatically it is DANGEROUS... and personally having read this thread, i would probably rethink ever doing it again... what good is a GREAT orgasm if i'm dead?

michaelGA -> RE: Breath Play (2/22/2006 8:59:19 AM)
if ya gotta go, go with a smile

IronBear -> RE: Breath Play (2/22/2006 10:10:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA if ya gotta go, go with a smile A smile and a loud bang michael.. Better to be as noisy as possible as you go..... "Ya gota play the game. It's all in the game and how you play it!"

IronBear -> RE: Breath Play (2/22/2006 10:12:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA if ya gotta go, go with a smile A smile and a loud bang michael.. Better to be as noisy as possible as you go..... "I came....I went, and no one noticed.... I came with a loud noise and I went with a bang and even the angels in heaven sat up and applauded..." "Ya gota play the game. It's all in the game and how you play it!"

friskiesub -> RE: Breath Play (2/22/2006 11:11:39 AM)
For BitaTruble: I loved it, thanks for making me smile. Loved your idea of when/when not to inhale. thanks, friskie

Wildfleurs -> RE: Breath Play (2/22/2006 1:34:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA i have heard that orgasms are more intense during such play...is this accurate? I can only say for me that its not about the orgasms. Except for some very rare instances, I find that sexual stimulation just detracts from the experience of doing breath play. C~

DragonNphoenix -> RE: Breath Play (2/22/2006 8:17:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA i have heard that orgasms are more intense during such play...is this accurate? For me, usually, I almost achieve orgasm just from the breath play alone. I think that if My Dragon touched me there while doing this I would explode. 1st Girl Phoenix

MistressLorelei -> RE: Breath Play (2/22/2006 9:00:08 PM)
My very first submissive whom I grew to trust was very experienced with breath play and is a Scuba diver... I became interested and did a lot of research... eventually trying it with extreme caution. I grew to like it a great deal, but I don't think I could go there with another submissive, but the way in which we practiced breath play were... An oven bag... the clear type you cook a roast with.... over the head.. duct tape firmly, but loose enough to not be choking) around his neck... he would take several breaths... and quickly I would cut a small hole in the corner of the bag.... he was able to breath, but had to learn to control it, occassionally I would pinch the hole for a second or two... make him beg for air (but he knew his code word). I could see his every breath and his face clearly. This worked very well... but I would not think that two people (Dom and sub) who have no breath play experience would be the best match for breath play activities.... maybe each of you could try it with another experienced person first? Oh, and another way (though I was only told about it) is to cover mouth and nose and have the submissive squeeze your arm or signal in some way when he/she is getting close to needing to breath.... once you feel that squeeze, know you have a few seconds... Breath play is a scarey thing... a very exciting, high-producing scarey thing... I expected the police to break down the door every time I had him in that predicament. Anyone should proceed with extreme caution or for safety's sake, not at all.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Breath Play (2/23/2006 12:10:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie Smothering seems to be a less risky alternative, no? Actually with smothering you can't see the persons face or whats going on. We do choking (hands, belt, rope) and have played around with plastic bags, but I would consider smothering more dangerous than those because you just don't have the same kind of feedback and its hard to tell with say a pillow exactly how much air you are cutting off. C~ ~ grins ~ He can usually tell by the rate in which my arms are flaily about [;)]

ShadeDiva -> RE: Breath Play (2/23/2006 9:39:22 PM)
Well, I will put forth what I find to be a very understated POV - which is the concept that not ALL breath play is dangerous. Yup. I said that. LOL. But really, there are forms of breath play that are pretty safe. That being said, my opinion is based on the fact that "breath control" is a part of breath play. Breath control being the operative phrase. Emphasis on control. Telling a submissive to hold their breath is indeed a form of breath play. There are a few risks, as with all things, but really - it's pretty safe too - just make sure they aren't in suspension or able to hurt themselves if they should possibly pass out but then I have never really ever asked nor expected someone to hold their breath long enough to cause that. Usually just enough to get that cherished look of panic. "Can I do that? Will she actually expect me to? Ack! My breath is running out!" Putting a gasmask on someone is a form of breath play. You are limiting their opinions for gaining air. You don't actually have to withhold air from a person to do breath play - just placing them in a situation where the concept/situation is that you could easily withhold air if you chose to do so is often very intense all by itself. That mindfuck alone can easily be considered breath play. Subjecting someone to smells, like dirty socks, fish, patchouly (I know someone that can't stand that smell, very effective for them - even the mere idle and off-hand threat brings a special look of utter horror and dismay lol) or introducing things like smoke for the ashtray folks into their air is a form of that. Blowing smoke into their mouths or faces is a form of breath play. If you tape a straw or a tube or hose over someone's mouth and cover the end for a second or two, really, it's breath play as safe as it could get (barring they don't choke, gag, etc - same issues bits and gags and hoods have) without any real risk of brain damage, throat injury, or substansial lack of air. The key is making the person believe that you WOULD do it at that moment and place and time to make it be effective. Unless of course the person feels the need to really push that envelope. But most folks would react to having a tube taped to thier mouths, nostrils taped closed and being told that at ANY time ... their option of breathing could be controlled and there is nothing they could do to stop that. So anyway, not ALL breath play requires constricting the neck, smothering, or even actually DOING it. Sometimes the mere threat or possiblity is more than enough - and in some cases, too much at that. Just like not using safewords does not automatically equate one's limbs being cut off or risking a command to kill ones self by their dominant - and just like S/m does not automatically equate being beaten or beating someone bloody (or any actual physical pain at ALL, for that matter) - breath play does not have to be the extreme end(s) of that fetish to be fun, effective or even fairly safe. Accidents naturally can happen with anything we do. There will always be exceptions. But not everything needs to be done to the extreme degree. There are shade of gray. Even with breath play. JMO, FWIIW.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Breath Play (2/23/2006 10:16:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShadeDiva Subjecting someone to smells, like dirty socks, fish, patchouly (I know someone that can't stand that smell, very effective for them - even the mere idle and off-hand threat brings a special look of utter horror and dismay lol) OMG was that you????? LOL kidding. But, i can't stand that scent!!

ShadeDiva -> RE: Breath Play (2/23/2006 10:30:42 PM)
I can't really anymore either. I think I wore out my lifetime quota of tolerating that scent after too many years of Dead shows and "natural folks". I can remember when I thought it smelled good, but it hasn't smelled good in the here and now for nearly two decades now LOL.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Breath Play (2/23/2006 10:39:33 PM)
LOL i have been to one and only one Dead show, in Watsonville...i think! Never did like that scent. The again at the Dead show, i think the scent of pot covered up the patchuli. [:D]

ShadeDiva -> RE: Breath Play (2/23/2006 10:45:52 PM)
It's also used to cover up lack of deodorant, lack of bathing, or lack of clean clothes ... or all three combined. Which is why I think I can't stand it now, LOL.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Breath Play (2/23/2006 10:49:55 PM)
Uck

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Breath Play (2/24/2006 12:11:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: darkersolace quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble If all else fails and you decide to choke her or suffocate her, know you can kill her and will probably end up in prison for 1st degree murder. If you are both willing to take the risk, I hope it's everything you're looking for because it's probably going to be your last scene unless you count the body cavity searches and your bunk mate named Bruno. Celeste ::edited to add:: Himself has said it probably won't be 1st degree murder, but more likely reckless homocide or even manslaughter. That should make a world of difference to Bruno. Really now. Let's all try to scare the living crap out of anyone who wants to do any sort of edge play, shall we? YES, breath control is dangerous -- lots of activities people engage in in the lifestyle are dangerous! A Top could accidentally kill a sub by putting them in bondage -- not improper bondage mind you, but still the chance of a blood clot forming and travelling to a lung or the heart is still a possibility. The sub could have a car accident on the way to the Dom's house and die -- do you really want to take that risk?? Calculated risks are a part of everyday life, lovely people. Breath play is very enjoyable, and as long as the Top is responsible, I really don't see what the huge deal is. My Master has two methods which he uses when we have this sort of play: 1) He will choke me, not by cutting off my airway, but by pressing on the arteries in my neck and cutting off the blood flow to the brain. The result is a pleasant lightheadedness, though a sub could easily black out if the Dom isn't paying attention to him/her. About 30 seconds of pressure is more than enough to get giddy. 2) He will place his hand over my nose and mouth, which prevents me from breathing. This is normally safe for a bit longer (a couple of minutes), since it takes a while to run out of air and then start panicking. All in all, this is just another form of control that yes, could get ugly if someone gets sloppy. So just USE YOUR HEAD, and all will be well! [;)] I couldnt have said it better. Yes there are risks if someone gets sloppy.I know when I started to try breath play,I was very cautious,I think when doing something new you tend to be that way.Not to say I'm not still cautious,I have safety measures in place.There are some forms of breath play I still wont do.But then again I never thought I would do breath play to begin with,slave bishop finally won out and I like that W/we tried something new that W/we both ended up loving. I do think that sometimes after doing something many times you can get into a certain confidence level that can lead to trouble,for instance a cd bottom friend who has been it 20 years is into self bondage and breath play,decided one night to do both,nothing bad happened other than some slight fumbling with the keys(nothing but that....okay).To Me that is an over confidence level within yourself and thats when things get scary.This person is very much into NO LIMIT PLAY(no safe words).I think its dangerous to get into that type of play. But "edge play" with safe words and safety precautions is very powerfully intense wonderful play for both.

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