Loki45
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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
I'm not going to quote. Hey Loki, I knew you were going to disagree with me. No problem. I'm not mad at you brother *smiles*. I've been trying my hardest to get along with you, because I didn't want to go down that road again. It's just stupid. You and i are too mature for that stupid shit. We disagree with each other on a few things. I knew we'd disagree on this. Hell, I knew a lot of folks would disagree with me on this.
I'm reminded of the scene from American Wedding where Finch and Stiffler are acting nice toward each other. You can see it's unusual for them and they don't know how to feel about it. Suddenly, Stiffler says "I fucking hate not hating you." To which Finch replies "I did fuck your mother.........twice." After which Stiffler says "Oooooohhhhh that's better, fucker!"
Back on point...
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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
I used to be for the death penalty. I didn't listen to others. I was for it. But I changed my mind. I started to see that innocent people might actually die for crimes they didn't do. I couldn't get my head wrapped around that. It bothered me. So I can't support it anymore. I have met prison inmates. I am good friends with some of them. I can't place myself in the outside position role anymore. I've met these people. Not all of them are bad. Most of them made a foolish mistake. They deserve another chance. They deserve forgiveness. I can't walk away from that. I have to oblige their request. I feel obligated. I grew up in an upper middle class family. I drank, I did drugs, I got into fights, etc. I got away with all of that. If I had lived in a poor neighborhood, I would have got sent to jail. I can't ignore that. It's not fair.
I know there are those who 'just made a mistake,' but at some point, the mistake excuse no longer holds up. Stole something once? Ok, moment of weakness. Stole twice? Well, c'mon now...you know that's wrong. Stole three times? Alright, that's just a pattern.
For drugs...hell I don't think drugs should be illegal. I don't use either way, but, like alcohol, I don't give a rat's ass if someone else does. I think making them legal would help to empy the prison systems of all the bullshit offenders and make room for the ones that need to be there. But hating on the system put in place to enforce our laws doesn't seem to do much. I hear (supposedly) they are on the verge of considering legalization of pot in some cities in California. They didn't accomplish that merely by blasting the prison system. They did a multi-faceted attack including highlighting the medicinal purposes and a whole host of other things to get to where they are now.
As for the death penalty....I know it's a flawed system. But it's all we've got. I want the system improved so innocent ones don't get the death penalty, but I don't feel that ceasing its use altogether is the answer. Because as I pointed out in a previous post....what is a person's motivation not to go on a killing spree or commit some other heinous act if the worst thing we can threaten them with is free room and board for life?
To those with a concience, prison is bad. To those who genuinely don't give a fuck....prison doesn't mean a damned thing.
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. But onto your point if the death penalty is the only deterrent that has any weight, then why isn't the murder rate much higher in countries without the death penalty? Or even in states without the death penalty for that matter?
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