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truesub4u -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 11:03:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DestinyCommander


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ORIGINAL: Bella1

what are "Munchies" ? how do u find them.

*Bella*



Munchies are a new brand of trail mix made by Frito-Lay. I happen to like the ones with Sun Chips, Doritos, and Cheetos.


My favorite as well.... yum yum...

great.. now i'm hungry... time for a snack...




Bella1 -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 1:04:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DestinyCommander


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ORIGINAL: Bella1

what are "Munchies" ? how do u find them.

*Bella*



Munchies are a new brand of trail mix made by Frito-Lay. I happen to like the ones with Sun Chips, Doritos, and Cheetos.



I LOVE it.......ty *Bella*




Bella1 -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 1:16:51 PM)

I want to ty all for the E mails, however I'm very Happy with my Husband and am only trying to find more ways to Please him and make our intimate life the best it can be.... As much as I'm flattred with the offers I'm not interested. I hope I'm not offending anyone. I am trying to get his permission to ......oh well never mind....lol.....((((Bita, I think u'll know what I'm thinking. lmao))))))

*Bella*




BitaTruble -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 1:38:51 PM)

Bella,

You might want to set your profile up to reflect that you are married and not looking. That won't completely stop the emails, but it should slow them down a bit.

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.....((((Bita, I think u'll know what I'm thinking. lmao))))))


If you're thinking what I think you're thinking, I'm thinking UTAH.. if not.. CALL ME! lol

Celeste




Bella1 -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 2:13:11 PM)














The forum is open and I'm sure you'll get lots of answers, some good, some horrible and some which speak to your heart.. if you only have the courage to ask. I will make you a promise. I, personally, will not laugh or scoff at any question in this thread which is posed by someone new, but I can't speak for what others will do. Deal?

Grandma Celeste


Can you explain the difference between Top, Dom and Master? I've read that everyone defines for themselves, but I don't have the book so have no idea where to even start. I thought I could get a basket of fruit to choose from and not spend all my time in the meat section when I'm looking for something sweet.


*Bella* ((((((someday to be Bita's Pain Puppy))))))




MsNdsisuv -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 4:05:01 PM)

::perks:: UTAH???? ::big grin::

I am so loving this site[:)] Okay So I have a few books, and bella and I were discussing where to go and find some more.... where are some good resources for getting more books and what are some good books to readto fulfill our constant thirst for knowledge...
more input....

T




BitaTruble -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 5:03:41 PM)


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Can you explain the difference between Top, Dom and Master? I've read that everyone defines for themselves, but I don't have the book so have no idea where to even start. I thought I could get a basket of fruit to choose from and not spend all my time in the meat section when I'm looking for something sweet.


Here's some apples from Himself - these are generic in terms of general BDSM ::there are MANY subcultures including Gorean, IDIC, Female Supremacy, Cyber, etc, etc::

A Master is a dominant ::usually male:: - the one who holds the authority. They exercise the right to exert the power which has been given to them or which they have taken from someone, but do so at their own discretion. Just like a man can't be a Father without a child, a man can't be a Master without a slave/submissive.

::throwing in a pear from me:: Masters have all control over their slaves/submissives in and out of the bedroom. The level of control a Master wishes to exert over his slave is up to him. Many Masters give their slaves autonomy to make decisions as necessary, often discussing major issues before coming to a conclusion for the given relationship. The final decisions rest with the Master.

~~~

A dominant - a verb denoting a personality trait. One can be dominant male or female and not be part of BDSM.

~~~

Top - one who has authority over another in a given session, scene or within a given time frame and within certain parameters as decided upon by both parties. ::note that 'time frame' can be life-long:: Generally, the top does 'not' have all control over the bottom, but only that control which has been negotiated, usually for a mutually beneficial outcome, often only during a scene or session. In a S/M scene, the Top is the one giving the pain and the bottom is the one receiving the pain.

As you continue to educate yourself you'll come across other terms.. sadist, masochist, switch and others, but take your half-baby steps and absorb one thing at a time so you don't overwhelm yourself. :)

I hope you get a lot more responses to this question so you can make your fruity choices that fit 'your' definitions. Feel free to embrace those things which speak to you and discard those things which don't.


Celeste








Bella1 -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 5:16:40 PM)

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::perks:: UTAH???? ::big grin::



yep UTAH! :: BIGGER GRIN::
[8D]
{{{{cybe hug to ya}}}}

*Bella*






BitaTruble -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 5:26:16 PM)

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where are some good resources for getting more books and what are some good books to readto fulfill our constant thirst for knowledge...
more input....


{{{{{miss}}}}}}} welcome to the boards! It's about time you got here. ;)

S/M 101
Screw the Roses, Give me the Thorns
The Ethical Slut
Partners in Power
Erotic Surrender
The New Bottoming Book
Safe, Sane and Consensual and Fun
Learning the Ropes
The Compleat Spanker - <-- this one's for Bella. ::grins::


Do a 'keyword' search for any of the titles and you should be able to find any of these books via the web. You might have to resort to used copies for some of them, but they read just the same as when they were new. This is a 'small' sampling of what's out there and by no means complete, but it can give you a good start. :)

Celeste




caitlyn -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 5:29:16 PM)

My question revolves around contrary feelings.

I've had a few experiences, and seemingly enjoyed them while they were happening. The next day, I have strong feelings of regret.

I had a very negative experience about two weeks ago. I was really aweful. The day after, I felt like abandoning all hope. I wouldn't want to go throught that again. I've had really hot sexual fantasies about that experience, every night since.

The idea of having a master is appealing to me ... someone to govern me, someone to serve. The moment a boyfriend tells me what to do, I usually drop them instantly. I never listen to anyone.

Why am I even interested in this? Is this something I do to fit in, or because I don't want to fit in? Is it something that really only appeals to me, because I know some around me would find it unacceptable? Is it just the excitement? Is my interest in this sort of relationship, tied to so many crummy vanilla relationships?

I know these are not the sort of questions anyone can answer, but me ... but try as I might, I just can't get my thoughts around any of this. It's very confusing ... please someone, make some sense out of this.

Thanks ... cc

P.S. I bet you wish you had never asked if anyone had any questions. [;)]




Bella1 -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 5:39:44 PM)

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I hope you get a lot more responses to this question so you can make your fruity choices that fit 'your' definitions. Feel free to embrace those things which speak to you and discard those things which don't.


Celeste, ty so much for the info. It's been a great help, and I'm sure I'll have many more ?'s to ask.

And I hope that I get loads of infomation from ev1.

*Bella*




BitaTruble -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 9:14:09 PM)

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It's very confusing ... please someone, make some sense out of this.


Caitlyn,

Why am I like I am? I 'know' it's not normal. I hate it. I love it. I can't live with it. I can't live with myself. I can't live without it. It makes me feel so good.. and it makes me feel so bad. Peaks and valley's. From joy to crash in burn at the snap of a finger. Major ass mood swings without any hormonal imbalance. WTF?

Back and forth, back and forth.

That was me 24 years ago. And that was typical of my internal self talking when I first jumped into BDSM. Those conversations with inner 'me' took place for about 15 years. But each day I woke up and decided that for 'that day' I'd keep going. Just for that day I would continue to embrace 'me' as I 'thought' I should and needed to be. Then, one day I woke up and found acceptance. Not from any community, not from a Master or slave or family member or friend. But from myself. I figured out that regardless of how I was raised, what anyone thought of my choices or how society viewed my 'sickness', it didn't matter. Acceptance came when I finally figured out that I really didn't need it, not even from myself. It was OK to be confused, to be unsure. It was OK to let life take me where it would ... sort of like winning a vacation but no one tells you the final destination or how you're going to get there. The Amazing Race for the leather set. :) It was OK to be weird, because damn if everyone around me wasn't a bit weird too. :)

I didn't listen to anyone either.. mainly, I hadn't found the person I wanted to listen too yet. I mean, how could I when I wasn't listening or understanding myself yet and especially.. what if they said something I didn't want to hear? What if they told me to do something I didn't want to do? What if that meant I wasn't what I was? Scary stuff for me. It didn't help that almost everyone I met told me I wasn't a submissive, I wasn't a slave, I was too young ... but there were a few, a very few who saw it. Who saw what I was as I saw it. Those are the people I with whom I connected.. the ones who recognized what I was so desperate to have recognized. Unfortunately, those weren't the best people I could have chosen to associate with in BDSM, but that's another story because none of those relationships worked out and when I met Michael, I was free to belong to someone who recognized me as I was.. and who had the ability to take that person and the power which came with me and use it, mold it and train it to his satisfaction so that the person I was did not change, but got enhanced by his tweaking. Exactly what I needed and wanted but more than that.. exactly what was the very best thing for 'me.' Long haul, long road and each time I stumbled, it gave me another mark on the map to review and reflect upon.

Why you are interested in BDSM is something which may take you 5, 10 or 15 years to figure out.. the fact that you 'are' interested in it is clear indication to go another day .. and if you wake up tomorrow and decide you don't wanna go there anymore, that's OK, too. No contracts here. :) You don't have to sign anything in blood to continue to learn what's out there and to explore what's inside.

The reason's.. truly, it's nice to know them, but it's not necessary at this point in time. Being interested in BDSM because it's acceptable or unacceptable to someone else won't matter in the end and by the time it does matter, you're going to know anyway. And when you know.. it won't matter. So, you see.. either way.. it doesn't matter.

Ok, now I'm going to say something that you're going to hate. <-- that's your fair warning to stop reading if you don't wanna hear.. :)

You are young. Everyone over the age of 40 knows that you don't figure out the mystery's of the Universe until your 37th birthday. Unless you're a man.. then it's your 42nd birthday at which point you either grow up or you're Peter Pan forever, but that's another thread. :D Ok, that was somewhat tongue in cheek, but my point is, you don't have to 'know' everything right now, today. You can take as many steps in which ever direction you choose and you have the luxury of youth, not the burden of it. If you take some steps, find they don't work for you, it's easy to start off in a different direction. It's said that those into BDSM are not any less judgmental than any other chosen lifestyle.. but in the end, you are the judge of 'you' so fuck anyone who doesn't like it. They don't have to live in your body with your brains or your feelings. You do.


You've talked about having had a very negative experience. Count your blessings, Caitlyn, because many don't get such an incredible opportunity to grab onto a positive. Without the lows on occasion, it's hard to tell how great the highs are, so embrace it, reflect upon it, accept it happened, then let it go and move on. Easier said than done, I know and I'm not going to patronize and tell you that it's easy. It's not. Nothing about BDSM is easy.. and you know why? Because it's 'life'.. and life isn't easy, hon. Someone wise said that life's to short to be miserable.. and an even wiser person said.. life is to damn loooong to be miserable. You've said you don't want to go through that experience again, but you are having sexual fantasies about it. That one's hard to answer, because I don't know what you went through... but quite often the mind will try to protect itself rewriting history into a fantasy because then it's not real. It didn't really happen and the reality of the situation fuzz's with the fantasy until it becomes hard to tell them apart. It's reflexive. I'm not a psychologist, but if this truly bothers you, hon, it's not going to hurt to talk to a therapist about it. I'd give it a bit of time first though. Something traumatic requires a normal grieving process to get through.. and that's not done overnight or even within a few weeks. If it starts to interfere in your daily life, consider taking some steps towards a healing process.. because you might need some even if you don't recognize it as such. Again, it's hard to say without knowing what happened... but, no matter what 'did' happen, it's not a requirement that you go through it alone.

You've asked if you're interested in BDSM because of the excitement. That wouldn't be a bad thing. Sex, play, intimacy, danger, thrill.. all those things 'should' be exciting. Adds some spice to life and if that's the reason you are interested, that would not be a problem. It's sure in my top 10 list. :) Hell, if I wanted boring, I'd be a nun! Whether or not you've had crummy 'nilla relationship life may or may not contribute to wanting to explore BDSM, but I'd tend to doubt it. There are plenty of people who have crummy 'nilla and still shun BDSM. How ever you found BDSM is less important than the fact you did find it.. and now you want to explore. You are dead on accurate, Caitlyn.. you are the one who will determine in the end all the 'whys and wherefores' ... and you'll be the one to determine whether or not any of them are important to you or needed for you to enjoy your life it's the joy that you get out of living that matters.

It's not all going to make sense in a set time frame. I can't tell you not to worry because next Tuesday, the light bulbs are all going to come and you'll have an amazing clarity on everything. I wish I could.. I'd open my own psychic friends network and make a fortune! All I can say what comes from my heart and what my own experiences have been.. and I got through it and I was pretty much a mess for a long time.
You have incredible brains.. that's probably why you're having truble .. your thought process is very deep, but use that instead of working against it. Allow yourself to doubt, it's ok.. but trust yourself that you'll figure it all out when you need it, because you will.


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P.S. I bet you wish you had never asked if anyone had any questions.


Don't make that bet, Caitlyn.. I don't wanna take your money. :) The question is.. are ya sorry you asked me? lol

Take care, hon...

Celeste











Petruchio -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 10:00:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

My question revolves around contrary feelings.

I've had a few experiences, and seemingly enjoyed them while they were happening. The next day, I have strong feelings of regret.

I had a very negative experience about two weeks ago. I was really aweful. The day after, I felt like abandoning all hope. I wouldn't want to go throught that again. I've had really hot sexual fantasies about that experience, every night since.

The idea of having a master is appealing to me ... someone to govern me, someone to serve. The moment a boyfriend tells me what to do, I usually drop them instantly. I never listen to anyone.

Why am I even interested in this? Is this something I do to fit in, or because I don't want to fit in? Is it something that really only appeals to me, because I know some around me would find it unacceptable? Is it just the excitement? Is my interest in this sort of relationship, tied to so many crummy vanilla relationships?

I know these are not the sort of questions anyone can answer, but me ... but try as I might, I just can't get my thoughts around any of this. It's very confusing ... please someone, make some sense out of this.

Thanks ... cc

P.S. I bet you wish you had never asked if anyone had any questions. [;)]


caitlyn, I've seen this happen with subs before and there can be multiple reasons. One simple (or perhaps not so simple) is to learn the art of surrendering.

You may also be experiencing somethiing akin to the 'persurer-distancer' theory. The idea is that we all like a certain distance in a relationship– not too much, not too little. If someone closes in on you, you back away, but if they distance themselves, do you want to be closer to them?

Of course there's the usual suspect, at least when it's applied to males: Do you have a fear of commitment?

And finally, some part of your subconsious may be challenging you by asking if this guy is right for you and perhaps not liking the answer.




cloudboy -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/22/2006 10:56:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

The idea of having a master is appealing to me ... someone to govern me, someone to serve. The moment a boyfriend tells me what to do, I usually drop them instantly. I never listen to anyone.[;)]


It sounds like you need the right kind of dominant. When I began flirtations with my Mistress, we discussed our personality types (meyers-briggs). She said she was an INFP. At the time, I thought this was the anti-personality of a DOM. Why? Because I'm a INFP. I didn't see any way an "intuitive" could be dominant. At the time I thought the "the Field Marshall," type, ENTJ, was the prototype DOM. At a minimum, I thought a DOM should at least be a "J."

I actually asked my Mistress, "How can you possibly be dominant with that personality type?"

Somewhat offended, she said, "I have my way."

Now that I have been with her for nearly two years, I can say she definitely has her way, and it is distincitive.

She does not micromanage.
She likes a sub with emotional and intellectual intensity, not a robotic type who follows orders.
She reads limits very well.
Person to person time with her is highly important --- "the whole thing" is not a master-slave dynamic.
She can assert her authority at any time when she has it.
She has a rooting interest in me.
She does not believe is "forcing," but rather in having the control I submit.

From what you've said in your post, I think you might also respond well to an intuitive type who reads you well, has a natural feel for interpersonal bonding, does not micromanage, likes you to be you, and has a subtle yet strong way of unleashing your submissive side.

As MH likes to say, don't look at the toys, the activities, the protocols, or the labels ---- try to look at the dynamic --- the way you and others connect, the things you respond to, the types with whom you feel most compatible.

An intuitive DOM will never tell you "what to do" as you put it, they will just expect you to submit. If you cannot do this, then they'll just give up the futile project of dominating you.

Feeling submissive can at times be quite complicated. To a limited extent it can arise from our kinks and fantasies, but it goes deeper when you find someone worth submitting to --- someone who stirs your nature, gets you, and releases you from the bonds of yourself. Its not so much that you listen to a DOM, as much as it is that you want to submit and respond to their lead.

Don't get discouraged by the trial and error nature of relationships. The learning curve is what will indelibly make you what you are. Getting quickly from A to B will only make you a shallow dullard. Be glad for the complications. Its not you. Its just the way. Hell, I'm married and I'm still on the learning curve.

In closing, I'm currently reading THE BITCH IN THE HOUSE. If I find any relevant kernals of wisdom, I will pass them along to you. Two of the chapters have been really good reading, even though its all modern day stuff, way past all that Middle Age drama.

http://www.thebitchinthehouse.com/




BitaTruble -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/23/2006 12:06:29 AM)

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A dominant - a verb denoting a personality trait. One can be dominant male or female and not be part of BDSM.


::crosses out the word 'verb' and replaces it with adjective::

::sighs:: I hate fucking up.

Celeste




cloudboy -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/23/2006 6:25:11 AM)


Don't worry, its just a MB, not the New Yorker. With my editing skills, I would have to write posts. Edit them once. Let them sit for 24 hours. Re-edit them and then send them. There's simply no other way I'd fully correct my own writing given my dyslexia.

"Mistakes," therefore, never offend or turn me off here ------- What turns me off are others who treat this forum like THE NEW YORKER or THE SENATE FLOOR.

So, FORGETABOUTIT.




MTslave -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/23/2006 10:20:32 AM)

May I go back to the kid question for a moment? Thank you.

I am an owned slave, and I have children. Three of them to be exact and all under ten. Right now my chilldren are to young to comprehend any sort of explanation that I could give them concerning the lifestyle I chose to live. That does not mean however I completely hide it. My collar is a known thing around this house as are my slave bells. In fact I had to take my collar off my three year old the other day and my daughter is always asking for her own bells. I call my daughter a little Domina outloud and my son is definately gonna love spankings as an adult (I can't spank him... he laughs and wiggles his butt). At their ages however I don't think that most in ANY kind of relationship would discuess sexual prefrences and the sort. Now, when the time comes for "the talk" and all that yes I will begin with 'normal' sexual definations. The what it is what it does etc. I will not beat around the bush but tell it how it is. My kids know they can ask any question without fear. Now when they get older, late teens maybe early twenties, I will talk to them of my own lifestyle. There is going to come a time when they figure out what that collar is and why I act the way I do. I have no problems telling them BUT ....and this is what I think is most important.... BUT... I will make dang sure that they realize that they can be anything they want to be. If they want normal nilla relationships they need to know that is perfectly ok with me. That they are accepted and loved no matter what they chose in life. I also really really really need them to know that they can ask me.... tell me.. confide in me in anything. If they want to bring over their friends and want me to make sure the flogger and handcuffs are put away then fine... let them tell me that and I'll put them away. Not everyone has a tolerance or an understanding for this lifestyle. I know that, heck I have my own friends that would never understand.

Oh my I do ramble on. The point here is that when/if you have children. Make them feel safe and secure in being able to come to you at any time with any question or problem or anything. Make them feel loved at any cost and and reason. In turn they will respect you more and whatever decisions you've made in your life.

MTs slave




LaMalinche -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/23/2006 11:39:15 AM)

Okay, here it goes. . .

I am here for the message boards, sometimes after reading a members posts for a while, I will actually look at their profile, if there is one. While reading their profile, I will often come across a comment by them, that I would either like to ask a clarifing question about or I will read something that I would like to open a discourse with them about. However, like today, I was reading a profile, and wanted to send a message about something that they had written, but their profile also states that they will absolutly not deal with switches. Does this mean that they will just not consider them as partners? Is it rude to still send an email? I am not looking for a partner or anything like that, I was just looking for an intellectual discussion. At the same time I do not want to be seen as "uncouth" for not respecting the wishes that they have outlined in their profile. What is the protocal for this?

Okay that rambled a bit, sorry about that.

Best,

LaMalinche





BitaTruble -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/23/2006 12:07:16 PM)

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I am here for the message boards, sometimes after reading a members posts for a while, I will actually look at their profile, if there is one. While reading their profile, I will often come across a comment by them, that I would either like to ask a clarifing question about or I will read something that I would like to open a discourse with them about. However, like today, I was reading a profile, and wanted to send a message about something that they had written, but their profile also states that they will absolutly not deal with switches. Does this mean that they will just not consider them as partners? Is it rude to still send an email? I am not looking for a partner or anything like that, I was just looking for an intellectual discussion. At the same time I do not want to be seen as "uncouth" for not respecting the wishes that they have outlined in their profile. What is the protocal for this?


LaMalinche,

There is absolutely no reason in the world not to write the email. This is someone who's posts have interested you enough to keep reading them and if you start your email off with that statement, keep it polite and friendly, there will be very few who will be offended. Most of us like talking about ourselves and if we can clarify a statement so we're better understood, all the better. Having a polite discourse is a 'person to person' issue.. and not one of a Master or Top 'dealing' with a switch. You are no more a switch to them then they are a Master to you and the very worst that will happen is they can send you a blasting email and block you from writing again and if that happens, how much intellectual discussion were you going to have anyway?

Take the risk.. this is one where the potential benefits by far outweigh the hazards and you might open up a very enlightening dialogue with someone whom you already find interesting enough to read.

Celeste




MsNdsisuv -> RE: ?'s for the brand spanking new (2/24/2006 12:16:08 PM)

Okay.. so what are some suggestions for finding out how your "significant other" feels about stuff if you can't even get them to sit down and communicate with you? He is hot one day and cold the next... unfortunately I am finding that the spankings and biting are all happening in public ..building up this whole incredible feeling... then when we are together... wham.. its all vanilla... not that the nilla thing is bad.. because its great.. its just that i really want more... ~sigh~ I dunno... is upside down a bad thing? Because thats how everything feels right now...

T




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