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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 7:04:34 AM   
IrishMist


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ORIGINAL: nymphoshaz

i have been having problems with a certain master on here....i have made it perfectly clear i am not interested in him.........i have it posted in my profile that i am a domme and this master keeps insisting on being my master.......i dont want a master.......i do want to find a dom to teach me so i can treat my subs properly and safely....i know i can block this person but i dont think that solves the problem.......anyone care to comment on this problem?


How about

JUST SAY NO, GOODBYE and then ignore. It actually is a wonderful concept and works beautifully.




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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 7:31:08 AM   
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quote:

JUST SAY NO, GOODBYE and then ignore.


Or just say "Yes! Yes!, Oh PLEASE Master!" and then ignore.

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 7:55:45 AM   
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I got rid of one would-be Master by telling him, in detail what I would DO to him if he were My slave!

"Oh, if you had a REAL man you would end up submitting to him! You did it already!"
I had made the mistake of telling him that I'd interned as a sub for a year to fulfill the Old Guard leather tradition before earning My leathers as a Top.

He was insistent that if I tried to dominate *him* I'd end up over his knee begging to be... well, you get the picture.

So I told him what I *would* do if I had NO restrictions... I started with a descriptio of a urethral dilator and heated argyrol, went into the application of porcupine quills set in sterling silver handles, segued through scalpels, electrotorture, complete castration (penis and testicles) and ended with milk-duct dilation (a step beyond mere nipple play!) with side trips into subdermal insertion of remote controlled vibrators and the application of live leeches to the anal orifice prior to the use of fish hooks and weights.

He began to wriggle, crossing and uncrossing his legs like a three year old who has to "go" as horror, fascination, real fear, incredulity and confusion chased themselves across his face.

I delivered the coup de grace when I opened My toybag and drew out the urethral dilator AND the porcupine quills in their tin box.

"Yo- you're SICK!" he spluttered and headed for the hills! AFAIK he's still running.

I mean... really! The quills were for a CRAFT project! Some people are so gullible!

Tee hee hee!

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 7:57:54 AM   
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/gulps

Oh my

Remind me NEVER to get on your bad side LadySonelle



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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 7:58:41 AM   
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lol that actually reminds me of a funny incident on Yahoo I had after been messaged by a master who wanted me to sub to him... I was quite the horn dog at the time and played along, telling him what he wanted to hear, yes sir no sir three bags full sir, and he was getting into the whole cyber thing (which is so not my deal), telling me what to do, to describe what I would wear if we were to meet, etc.

Meanwhile I am thinking of a sub I had played with the week before and did a little self-loving and had myself a good time ;) silencing him in mid-sentence telling him I had just cum so it was pointless carrying on our conversation. He replied how unfair that was and that I shouldn't have done that. At which point I pointed out to him, no, what shouldn't have been done, was him trying to dom a dom.

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 8:12:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadySonelle
I got rid of one would-be Master by telling him, in detail what I would DO to him if he were My slave!


I just found another person that I wish where closer, you my dear would be fun company!

I've had the problem the other way round with a silly little girl who was SO sure she would break me... but you handled yours with far more class than I did mine. Cudos

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 10:15:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: nymphoshaz

i have been having problems with a certain master on here....i have made it perfectly clear i am not interested in him.........i have it posted in my profile that i am a domme and this master keeps insisting on being my master.......i dont want a master.......i do want to find a dom to teach me so i can treat my subs properly and safely....i know i can block this person but i dont think that solves the problem.......anyone care to comment on this problem?


If I get a man trying to "Dom" me in his first e-mail contact...the first thing I do is laugh..a lot! I then might respond to him by stating that he's clearly mistaken me for someone else, and then I suggest to him to try to read AND comprehend what a profile clearly states, if he's sincere in really trying to find someone compatible. I close by wishing him well in his search. I don't "block" him, as he's done nothing to offend me, but just showed how clearly ignorant he is by his words. Should he respond back, I immediately delete the e-mail, as there is obviously no reason to continue to correspond with someone that is a dimwit. If he contacts me again, it's usually under a new profile that either has him listed as a "switch" or a "submissive" now, all the while maintaining his Dom profile. He is playing. I am not.

Just ignore the email. Delete it. Forget it. If he, or another makes contact again that doesn't meet with your desires, just hit the delete button again. There is no reason to get upset, or argue with someone that has no significance in your life, as I see it. Let him play his games with someone else.

The OP profile invites the Doms to respond though, so I don't understand the need to complain when one does. I do think you should decide what it is you're seeking yourself, and exploring your "sub" side...then you need to realize that Doms will contact you. Your other solution is to change your profile and not bother to react to those e-mails that don't meet your desires. Let it go.

K

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 10:27:00 AM   
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quote:

petruchio..............i know i am dominate and i do have a male sub.............i am just asking a question here........i know i am new at this.......if i dont ask questions how do i get answers............i try to be nice but sometimes there are people you just cant be nice too

nymphosaz


Ma'am, may i ask why You wish to learn from a Man and not a Woman (Domme)?

Just curious.

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 10:40:56 AM   
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Sometimes... no mater how hard you try to remove dust mites.. (like Petruchio )... they keep sneaking back in.. and nothing you can do.. but spray bug spray again..


Sometimes it's fun watching them doing the slow death dance.. the begging.... the pleading...

(Damn I keep talking like that.. someones gonna think I'm a Dom too... LOL)

Oh sure truesub, why dont you just tease us a little bit! <veg>

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 10:50:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa


quote:

ORIGINAL: truesub4u

Sometimes... no mater how hard you try to remove dust mites.. (like Petruchio )... they keep sneaking back in.. and nothing you can do.. but spray bug spray again..


Sometimes it's fun watching them doing the slow death dance.. the begging.... the pleading...

(Damn I keep talking like that.. someones gonna think I'm a Dom too... LOL)

Oh sure truesub, why dont you just tease us a little bit! <veg>



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I do not think Petruchio's question was an offensive one. I think it was an out and out fair question.

[qoute]
i am a domme but i want to learn my submissive side for my subs sake...i want to learn from a dom NOT a master!.
[/qoute]

Dom or switch?... either or makes no difference to me... But knowing which ones answering the question.. alot easier.

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 11:55:31 AM   
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Nymphoshaz was clearly looking for some support and help with a very specific problem when she posted her opening message, it is up to an individual to define their own sexuality in their own way and think it is extremely rude for anyone else to question it, perhaps people think I am being overly sensitive?.

Though I would like to refer you to a thread called “domination and pain” in which petruchio, for whatever reason makes exactly the same attempt at questioning the person who posted the opening messages definition of their own sexuality.

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 3:02:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phoenxx


quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrTiger

I would just like to say that I found petruchio's question quite offensive, do you really think it is your place to question someone’s approach to their own sexuality?. You also qualified you question in offensive terms which makes you look like you were making a somewhat unsubtle attempt at being abusive.



Before jumping LOOK :
From nymphoshaz's ad:

i am a domme but i want to learn my submissive side for my subs sake...i want to learn from a dom NOT a master!.

Could be why Petruchio asked?
Maybe re-write your ad stating you are looking for someone to help you understand this life choice, someone to act as a mentor.


I thought Petrucio's comment was a bit offensive too.. until I read her profile. Dang thats confusing. It sounds like she's asking to be someone's sub, yet she is seeking a sub of her own.

As for telling people no... I find irritating the hell out of them works.. or MistressSassy's comments would work as well. Sometimes If I'm bored.. I'd reply back all coy just to see what they say.. but then.. I like messing with people. Whats even more fun.. answering questions with questions... Or asking them stupid questions.

"Bow down and kiss my feet"
"So you want me to bow down?"
"Yes, bow down and kiss my feet"
"ok, well how should I bow? I want to do it right."
"(explanation of bowing)" or some rant about how come I don't know how to bow
"ok.. So I'm supposed to bend at my waist? should I be kneeling? What if I hurt my knees? How long should I kneel?"

And so on and so forth.. it takes more time but it can get quite fun. Like having a staring contest to see who blinks first.

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 3:12:52 PM   
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What an excelent idea SimplyV. Perhaps an alternative is to do what kids do to parents and keep asking "Why".... I'm stealing some of you post here so a thankyou is in order....

"Bow down and kiss my feet" WHY?

"Yes, bow down and kiss my feet" WHY?

"Because you will submitt to me" WHY?

"I command you to submitt and kiss my feet!" WHY?

"I am a Dominant and you must obey." WHY?

"Stop asking why and just do it!" WHY?

"You aren't very submissive are you?" WHY?

"No your a bratty wannabe sub" WHY?

(Probably best to have the paramerdics handy by this time incase of cardiac arrest of the ?Dominant?


< Message edited by IronBear -- 2/22/2006 3:13:41 PM >


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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 3:18:53 PM   
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I found the OPs profile confusing as well. Dom wishing to sub so they would know what it is like to be a submissive? Hmmm......sounds, from my perspective, like someone who is questioning whether or not they are dominant or submissive and want someone to treat them like a sub so they will know for sure.

Perhaps the OP might want to rewrite her profile to be more clear. Other than that, I have always found blocking to be quite effective.

And Petrucchio can post anything he wants cause he's just so damn funny most of the time!

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 4:32:48 PM   
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I have been reading Petrucchio's posts for quite some time now and never found anything offensive in them and I didnt see it offensive this time either.
Frankly after reading the OP and profile IMO a good question.

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 4:35:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: nymphoshaz

i have been having problems with a certain master on here....i have made it perfectly clear i am not interested in him.........i have it posted in my profile that i am a domme and this master keeps insisting on being my master.......i dont want a master.......i do want to find a dom to teach me so i can treat my subs properly and safely....i know i can block this person but i dont think that solves the problem.......anyone care to comment on this problem?


First.. the problem is his not yours

second ... yes block him.... but as you say he can get new profiles. so. my advise is the following

1 Do not respond to him ! EVER not matter what or how long NEVER respond to him

2. Every new message of a profile that gives you the instincts it's this person again with a new nic... DON'T answer or respond to... EVER! Just block the profile!

3. His behavior is of a stalking kind.... each time you respond you are rewarding his behavior! He is not concerned for what is in your response, he just wants a response.... So QUIT giving him the response... Quit Rewarding him!

4 If you quit rewarding his behavior... he will eventually leave you alone. I am not saying the person is a stalker... but this is a stalking behavior you don't need.

I have personal experience with this. I briefly conversed with someone and after a few emails, well lets just say my hair was raised on the back of my neck... I sent a email that I wouldn't converse with the individual Ever. Well she has sent me 7 emails since that one email... all an attempt to get me to respond. now I could of easily blocked the person, but actually I enjoyed the exercise of self-discpline of not responding.





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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 5:08:41 PM   
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quote:

I have personal experience with this. I briefly conversed with someone and after a few emails, well lets just say my hair was raised on the back of my neck... I sent a email that I wouldn't converse with the individual Ever. Well she has sent me 7 emails since that one email... all an attempt to get me to respond. now I could of easily blocked the person, but actually I enjoyed the exercise of self-discpline of not responding.


Oh silly Dom. You're just playing hard to get. I know if I send twenty more you're bound to answer.




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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 5:24:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

This might sound a little harsh but IF you are a Domme then act like it. Ignore this pestering insect like you would a cockroach in your garden. He can only bother you if you let him!


Amen. A Domina friend had trouble with a similar pest. She led him down the path to "what would we do if we were together," then told him. The woman in question is a major edge player who described the series of tortures she was planning for him with profound and informed detail. Never heard another word <whistles innocently>... This works best if, first, you can visualise something very extreme. Anything that involves items like hooks, blades, fire, etc. in sensitive male areas works quite well. Second, it helps if you're not dealing with the sort of fake who will turn sub on you just to get off. As she said, not only did she get rid of the jerk, she had a great time doing it.

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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 6:10:35 PM   
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The very best thing you can do is to not respond to him. Don't answer his chats, and don't try to justify yourself or your choices. With someone who can't understand and let go, the only real solution is to just ignore him.

For myself, I don't even bother to block these people. I just delete their mail and ignore their requests to chat, and go on with my life. Any attention given to them is often enough to let them justify continued contact with the concept that your continuing to respond is your "secret" way of really accepting what they have to offer.

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ORIGINAL: nymphoshaz

i have been having problems with a certain master on here....i have made it perfectly clear i am not interested in him.........i have it posted in my profile that i am a domme and this master keeps insisting on being my master.......i dont want a master.......i do want to find a dom to teach me so i can treat my subs properly and safely....i know i can block this person but i dont think that solves the problem.......anyone care to comment on this problem?


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RE: opinions on telling someone no - 2/22/2006 6:56:21 PM   
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If it was me I would think a dominant would at least know to capitialize things like i when in refrence to themself since it's proper grammer and know that too means also, and was the wrong sense of the word in the case it was used.



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