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Jaded2005 -> Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 2:42:43 PM)

Not really sure where to post this but I thought here might work.....

As I scan the profiles, I am amazed at the approach people take to confirm their position.
In order for me to believe that they are a dominant, they capitalize "M's" as in My/Me, even when the letters appear midsentence.
This way a sub knows they mean business!
Or when you see;

the sub must do blah-blah in.....
the Dominate may do as They please without the sub complaining....
WTF.. lower case letters say the same thing....lol
If you spend all your waking hours thinking about this, the lifestyle and how you communicate your position, I'll pass.
For me, it does just the opposite.

It demostrates a lack of confidence, along the lines of having a on line master/mistress,
if you want to believe, then it's true.
 
~"Did you punish yourself like I told you?"~ 

Everyone needs something to believe in, I believe I'll have another beer, thanks.




GreedyTop -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 2:50:09 PM)

Jaded.. while the capitilization thing drives me batshit, usually, I also understand that it is a personal dynamic thing.. so I dont sweat it.




VanityFix -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 3:02:37 PM)

i typically ignore all senses of punctuation and grammer, i forget to capitalise names and places often and find slashy speak foolish, in writing i will try to remember to capitalise names i respect and places i hold dear, i will purposely not for names that lose my respect, im an odd duck tho..




GreedyTop -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 3:04:06 PM)

slashy speak *cringe*

almost always an immediate IGNORE for me...




LadyPact -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 3:13:51 PM)

Here we go again.  (I should just put some of these things into word documents so I can bring them up when needed.)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I almost kind of laugh when this topic comes up anymore.  Everybody familiar with Me on these boards knows I'm one of the biggest offenders on the cap thing.  I sit back and read the posts from folks who say they skip over those of us in the minority who do the protocol capping, and even worse <gasp> instruct our submissives to do it.  That proper English horse gets pretty high as some (not all) look down their noses at us protocol cappers.

Yet, darn near every time the subject comes up, I go back and look at those who say they skip over posts where Dominants cap themselves, and nine times out of ten it's someone who has said on the boards or written a private message to say they respected or admired something I wrote.  This leads Me to believe that the whole big deal about that huge capital "M" issue, isn't really that big of a deal at all.  Like undergroundsea said, it's more about the content than the capitalization. 

As to the OP, the answer is simple.  Do what your Dominant has instructed you to do.  Lacking that instruction, express yourself in the way that best fits you.  If that's proper English caps, protocol caps for the D and lowercase for you, third person speak, or any other way you want to write that conveys the message that's inside of you.  At the end of the day, that's usually more important than what other people think anyway.

From the desk of the imperfect, protocol capping Lady Pact.



I've got about sixteen other quotes from other times the subject has been done to death, but that one will do.

Point being, I happen to be a Dominant female who has My own writing style, regardless of the way other people are going to attempt to tell Me how to do it.  I also happen to be on a kink related site, where a lot of this goes back to personal expression.  I find it ridiculous that anyone is going to pop on here and tell other people not to cap pronouns, stop talking in third person speech, or any other thing that is related to who they feel they are.  If it bothers you that much, don't get involved with people who do these things. 

Enjoy your beer and be well.




Jaded2005 -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 3:23:35 PM)

  I find it ridiculous that anyone is going to pop on here and tell other people not to cap pronouns, stop talking in third person speech, or any other thing that is related to who they feel they are.  If it bothers you that much, don't get involved with people who do these things. 

Enjoy your beer and be well.

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My point wasn't to tell people anything. Words alone are enough to communicate a position, why waste the extra keystroke?? If someone wants to jump up and down about an upper case word, so be it, Life is too short to break a sweat over dumb $hit.

BTW.....The Boston Lager is going down Very well!! 




GreedyTop -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 3:24:00 PM)

LAdyP..  when YOU do it, it doesnt bother me because you dont come across as a pretentious twat ;)  

now, if ya started in with the slashy shit, I'd have to reconsider *grins*




LadyPact -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 3:31:07 PM)

Boston Lager?  Hideous stuff.

See, it's all about personal preference.  [8D]




LadyPact -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 3:32:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

LAdyP..  when YOU do it, it doesnt bother me because you dont come across as a pretentious twat ;)  

now, if ya started in with the slashy shit, I'd have to reconsider *grins*



Thanks, GT.  Though I will admit to throwing a slash in here and there for things like r/t to be short for real time.




lobodomslavery -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 3:39:03 PM)

To cap or not to cap that is the question.
Whether it is nobler in the mind to take arms against a sea of troubles
Or by opposing end them and obey the Mistress who asks you to write in lower case if you are sub and write Mistress's name in higher case
(With apologies to the Bard)
Personally I think it s bunkum. I used to write my name in lower case. But I have to say it does nothing for the submissive and just tells the Domme in question that you have problems. Well some Dommes think that. And like others have said no Domme wants an obsequious fawning sub straight from the beginning. There is no challenge in that and its best not to get kinky from first base with many. The Domme by and large wants to know the normal person first.  This is what Im getting from reading these boards and looking at the views of Dommes. So no I dont lower case me. I write myself in normal case and while I might higher case the Lady, I have now stopped telling Women that Im inferior. Because Im not. And it only lends a view that I am somehow inadequate or think of myself as inadequate which I dont.
Kevin




Apocalypso -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 3:57:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Yet, darn near every time the subject comes up, I go back and look at those who say they skip over posts where Dominants cap themselves, and nine times out of ten it's someone who has said on the boards or written a private message to say they respected or admired something I wrote.  This leads Me to believe that the whole big deal about that huge capital "M" issue, isn't really that big of a deal at all.  Like undergroundsea said, it's more about the content than the capitalization. 
.

I agree with you on caps.  I have no problem with your posts because they're not harder to read.  Which is all I care about.  Which we seem to be in agreement on I think- it's about the content.

Where I have an issue is when the format interferes with the content.  Third person speech often does this.  It doesn't always.  Beth of Mercnbeth is incredibly good at it, so it's never an issue.  In fact it's impressive and a credit to both of them.  When less skilled writers do it, it's embarassing and they bring shame on themselves and their dominants by showing off their lack of competence in that manner.  Learn to write well, or don't use advanced techniques, at least not in public.  This isn't a private venue   And people own their words.

And that always applies to slash speak.  If you do it, you're making your writing harder to read so I have no interest in taking you seriously.

quote:

I find it ridiculous that anyone is going to pop on here and tell other people not to cap pronouns, stop talking in third person speech, or any other thing that is related to who they feel they are.

Fair enough.  But who I feel I am is somebody who takes both the art and craftsmanship of writing seriously and looks down on those who use language poorly.  Am I equally free to express that on here, or is my individuality less important?

Because if anybody thinks all language is created equal, imagine the response if somebody started posting txt spk on here reguarly.




sweetsub1957 -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 4:08:53 PM)

I think the Upper Case/lower case thing is just an individual preference.  I used to do the upper & lower case thing and the slashy speak.  Now I'm training myself not to because it irritates so many people & the slashy speak was even starting to irritate me, even though I was using it.  hahaha  But the bottom line is, life is too short to get irritated by the small scheiss that other people do.  When what you're doing starts to irritate you, that's really bad.  lmao




LadyPact -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 4:09:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Apocalypso

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact


I find it ridiculous that anyone is going to pop on here and tell other people not to cap pronouns, stop talking in third person speech, or any other thing that is related to who they feel they are.

Fair enough.  But who I feel I am is somebody who takes both the art and craftsmanship of writing seriously and looks down on those who use language poorly.  Am I equally free to express that on here, or is my individuality less important?

Because if anybody thinks all language is created equal, imagine the response if somebody started posting txt spk on here reguarly.


Equally free to express it, of course.  The difference is that you only get to make that choice for yourself and those under your control.  If it's important to you, it might help you to determine compatibility in that certain area (writing) but you can't change anyone else.

Your example of text speak is a good one.  Personally, I do find it a rather lazy form of expression on a message board.  I feel the same way about Ebonics.  A very good way for Me to know that I'm not going to enjoy communicating with someone.




DavanKael -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 6:33:56 PM)

I vacillate, though tend toward capitalizing names and not things like Me, Mine, etc.
I did decide that I prefer typing 'bdsm' rather than 'BDSM' as the lower-case doesn't seem like yelling and I'm thinking that perhaps the baseline psychology could make it seem a little less daunting to some folks, lol!  :> 
  Davan




PsyVamp -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 6:46:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Here we go again.  (I should just put some of these things into word documents so I can bring them up when needed.)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I almost kind of laugh when this topic comes up anymore.  Everybody familiar with Me on these boards knows I'm one of the biggest offenders on the cap thing.  I sit back and read the posts from folks who say they skip over those of us in the minority who do the protocol capping, and even worse <gasp> instruct our submissives to do it.  That proper English horse gets pretty high as some (not all) look down their noses at us protocol cappers.

Yet, darn near every time the subject comes up, I go back and look at those who say they skip over posts where Dominants cap themselves, and nine times out of ten it's someone who has said on the boards or written a private message to say they respected or admired something I wrote.  This leads Me to believe that the whole big deal about that huge capital "M" issue, isn't really that big of a deal at all.  Like undergroundsea said, it's more about the content than the capitalization. 

As to the OP, the answer is simple.  Do what your Dominant has instructed you to do.  Lacking that instruction, express yourself in the way that best fits you.  If that's proper English caps, protocol caps for the D and lowercase for you, third person speak, or any other way you want to write that conveys the message that's inside of you.  At the end of the day, that's usually more important than what other people think anyway.

From the desk of the imperfect, protocol capping Lady Pact.



I've got about sixteen other quotes from other times the subject has been done to death, but that one will do.

Point being, I happen to be a Dominant female who has My own writing style, regardless of the way other people are going to attempt to tell Me how to do it.  I also happen to be on a kink related site, where a lot of this goes back to personal expression.  I find it ridiculous that anyone is going to pop on here and tell other people not to cap pronouns, stop talking in third person speech, or any other thing that is related to who they feel they are.  If it bothers you that much, don't get involved with people who do these things. 

Enjoy your beer and be well.



Oy... and then I come along... and sometimes I am Me and sometimes I am me, depending on if I have enough energy to hit the shift key on the "m"'s...
[:D]




kttqnp -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 7:00:40 PM)

Good grief, didn't anyone notice that was post number 666 for Kevin? 




Rule -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 8:19:49 PM)

Lower / upper case does not bother me much. I consider it psychologically healthy for those who use it correctly.

I do suspect that it is wrong for a true submissive to use lower case when referring to self, though. I suspect that reality would be better reflected if they used I instead. (Am I wrong or am I right, true subs?)

I seem to recall that I have once hidden the posts of someone who used slash speak excessively. I have also hidden the posts of a fair number of people who use illegible font.




Arpig -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/8/2009 8:55:01 PM)

Really, who gives a crap! Sure I think its kind of dumb and I don't do it, nor would I have my sub do it, but it really doesn't matter all that much. I agree about beth being really good at the third person speech, but then again I get the impression that both of them are pretty sharp tacks to begin with,so that doesn't surprise me.




MistressRouge -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/9/2009 2:18:43 AM)

I cap My M's and I's, just habit I guess [:D]

The W/we O/our slash type, if I am honest, hard to read that's all lol




Politesub53 -> RE: Lower case, upper case letters (8/9/2009 3:37:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

LAdyP..  when YOU do it, it doesnt bother me because you dont come across as a pretentious twat ;)  

now, if ya started in with the slashy shit, I'd have to reconsider *grins*



C/cant W/we A/all J/just G/get A/along   [8D]




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