RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE".....

RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Ask a Mistress

Message

Misstoyou -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 12:41:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus ... Men like him remind me that these guys we encounter on the internets are so far from our real life reality that they don't deserve the keystrokes it takes to TRY and set them straight... Happily it has been my experience that guys I've encountered on the internet (even through CM! gasp!) also can turn out to be these guys in our real life reality as Lady Hibiscus described. Granted, not an especially large number, lol, but nevertheless, I have been pleasantly surprised more than once. (As an aside, especially this most recent time.) On the other hand, I totally agree with the conclusion in her post. Until I meet someone, I personally see no point in wasting emotional energy on what any virtual person says to or about me on the internet....good or bad. [:D]

Starbuck09 -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 12:42:25 PM)
Venatrix I agree with you that men who are unwilling to do anything or a woman and still exect a relaionship to blossom are woefully misguided but I haven't seen that an argument from more than one or two posters on this thread., that's all. Lady expecting gifts in a relationship is in my opinion fine. But thawas not hat startd this debate. I first posted as I objected to 1 being referred to as an inferior man because I did not tribute and 2 I found it deeply distasteful that the nature of gifts given is a measure of the depth of one's feelings for a partner that's all. I cannot speak for other men on this hread but I myself am not jealous I am happy with my sexual and emotional life. It's one of the reasons I have never once made a post denigrating any of my partners.

Starbuck09 -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 12:45:03 PM)
Noreen I see that you are ignoring my posts and are instead insulting others something you do with depressing regularity. If I were you I would go back and look at the tone and content of your pots before you attempt to paint people with the bitterness brush. By the way just to let you know you still haven't apologised for insulting my female partner.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 12:45:24 PM)
I really think that the men and women read those "lowly worm" remarks of the OP differently... me, I was seeing humour there. And, I saw a lot of men responding with the defensiveness borne of insecurity. MissMarie, I wasn't terribly clear about "those guys"... I have met some very decent men via the internets! Just not that many. [;)]

Starbuck09 -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 12:49:58 PM)
I didn't see humour Lady I saw something deeply unpleasant. Apparently Texxasmaam felt the same way as she has since said it was a mistake to use such terms.

Venatrix -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 12:51:22 PM)
Starbuck, I'd love to keep doing this dance with you, but I just bought a Chicago deep-dish pizza pan and am in the middle of trying my hand at making deep-dish pizza from scratch. That strikes me as being a lot more rewarding than waltzing around in the same "what do femdoms want?" circles. At least I'll get a decent meal out of it, paid for by no one but myself. Enjoy your day. I intend to do the same with mine.

Starbuck09 -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 12:52:16 PM)
No worries Venatrix enjoy your pizza.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 12:52:40 PM)
Me too, V! Though no pizza for me, coffee cake! Happy trails, everyone!

blackpearl81 -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 12:53:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus Truly, Starbuck, I don't know why we keep trying to explain to the complainers WHY they don't attract and keep dominant females in their lives. If those guys who think that paying for the coffee means that they are being exploited, who feel that doing something useful that will help the lady's day go more smoothly is just TOO much trouble unless there is an orgasm attached, who think that D/s is somehow quid pro quo think that their way is working for them, who are we to try and intervene with a little common sense? Who are we, just dominant women! My date last night brought me a coil of GLOW IN THE DARK rope. He didn't need to, but he knew I liked lime green, and grabbed it. And dude! IT GLOWS IN THE DARK!! Now, how difficult was that for him? Not so very. He showed that he was thinking of me while NOT naked, and bonus, now he knows of my enchantment with glow in the dark things! He even PAID for DINNER, even though I was expecting we would split the bill. Men like him remind me that these guys we encounter on the internets are so far from our real life reality that they don't deserve the keystrokes it takes to TRY and set them straight. So, if the guys who are holding on to their wallets with their kung-fu grip think that I am bitter, grasping, shrewish, whatever, I just don't care. Those men are not for me, any more than I am for them. Who complains about spending a lousy 2.89? (I prefer iced coffee. For some absurd and completely not understood reason, ice - yes, ICE - adds another .30 cents to my coffee) I mean, really? If anything, thats a helluva bargain: $2.89 cents for an hour or two of a Ladies company, and good conversation?

OttersSwim -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 1:02:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NoreenSwan It's funny, you keep calling me angry. For some reason you seem to know how I'm feeling and for some odd reason my being angry seems to be what you want and seems to be something that makes you feel better. O.K. little mr. baby, you can think what you want, whatever it takes to make you feel more secure, you'll be alright... I'm not angry, but we all know the reason you keep saying it is because you just don't like my opinion of this issue. So I think given the preponderance of the evidence, we both know that your posts come across as angry and just a little bitter... quote: ORIGINAL: NoreenSwan ^^^^^^ O.K.......now that's that outta the way, these are my two questions, 1. Talking about dommes and their subbies here. Does Feminine power and influence over men frustrate you? Do you fear feminine stregth? What do you think about when you see women influencing men and getting what they want simply through the power of her Feminine ways, the power of her persuasion, rather than having to rely on force and bulling? You really haven't been paying attention, have you? Maybe a look at my profile and some of my past posts... The answer to your first two questions in your first larger question is "No, in fact I embrace feminine strength." What I think about Ladies getting what they want through feminine ways and persuasion over force or bullying is frankly a slight sense of arousal. quote: ORIGINAL: NoreenSwan 2. How come when you want to shoot below the belt to certain posters, mostly men, you don't do it directly, and instead you hop on another persons post to attack indirectly? Yea, let's not go overboard on the whole "attacky" thing. Again, if you had been paying any attention, that is not my modus operandi (or however that's spelled). What I did is called "banter" and a number of the other male subs and many of the Ladies also engage in this highly refreshing and whimsical form of interaction on this forum and others! It is often used to interject humor into conversation as I did with the "going dutch" post...you should try it some time. It was also my version of a finger wag at the poster for what I felt was a very strident post.

WyldHrt -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 2:05:39 PM)
quote: My date last night brought me a coil of GLOW IN THE DARK rope. He didn't need to, but he knew I liked lime green, and grabbed it. And dude! IT GLOWS IN THE DARK!! Now, how difficult was that for him? Not so very. He showed that he was thinking of me while NOT naked, and bonus, now he knows of my enchantment with glow in the dark things! We really HAVE to be at least distantly related, Francine! Any idea where he found said glow-in-the-dark rope? [:D]

AAkasha -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 2:05:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Venatrix quote: ORIGINAL: Starbuck09 That's fair enough Lady but then presumably they in turn will not care what dominant women think of them on this thread, so there would be no point in telling them that they are bitter and hateful towards women? Again, SB, I can only speak for myself, and as I've said before, a lot of my complaints about men are intended to enlighten them about what they are doing wrong, in the hopes that they will correct their behaviour and thus have better luck. After 50 pages of posts, I see the same damned men shooting themselves in the same damned foot. Clearly, there is none so blind as the sub who will not see. My reasoning for even being involved in these debates is similar, but I also feel it's important to point out to the new people who may be reading or lurking that the opinions of this group of fairly eloquent and seemingly "well put together" submissives is NOT the way to attract a femdom. There's a group of really vocal subs who seem to talk like they know how to attract and have successful relationships with femdoms but in reality what they preach is a very poor approach. At the very least, subs need to know that courting a femdom requires at the mimimum the same respect and rituals vanillas provide. Some men are promoting the idea that just because some scammers require "tribute" and some unethical women (and men pretending to be women) use terms like "generosity" in their demands means that they need to be completely stingy and cheap toward any woman until she proves to be worth the investment or sacrifice. While many femdoms don't have any strict guidelines for this kind of treament, they sense immediately which guys are painfully cheap, and it ruins their chances out of the gate. As for women who simply state up front what their expectations are, rather than get bent out of shape if the guy feels it's not his cup of tea, it seems these men are blasting the women for being up front about their expectations regarding gifts or generosity; these same men don't get bent out of shape if a woman is clear about her sexual or sensual expectations (again, he can agree or move on), but the minute it has to do with money, even small amounts, they think it's ok to call this woman a gold digger. Akasha

PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 2:26:39 PM)
It's funny, you keep calling me angry. For some reason you seem to know how I'm feeling and for some odd reason my being angry seems to be what you want and seems to be something that makes you feel better. Noreen, everyone on this thread knows what everyone else is feeling. Words are a mere distraction, because everyone's crystal ball is working splendidly. The OP was lying in her latest post when she said that she had, in fact, meant it when she described a class of subs as 'limpdicks', 'not real men', etc, etc. Many of the dommes saw through this and realised that the OP's words were, in fact, just awkward expressions and that the OP was, despite what she finally said a couple of pages ago, joking or had just been a bit clumsy with her words. The subs who claimed that they felt aggrieved by being insulted weren't, of course, insulted by that at all. (In fact, they probably enjoyed it and got boners from it.) Instead, they had a rich variety of financial/social/sexual problems and it was these, of course, that led to their feeling what was plainly "bitterness". Or they were manifesting their huge egos. Or - the old favourite - they weren't and aren't true subs. Or whatever. It doesn't matter, because words aren't needed. All the kids in the playground have their crystal balls, and they're all working splendidly. You, Noreen, are the only exception: because although your own crystal ball is better than most people's, no-one can read your mind at all! I would suggest we all try to cut out the 'clairvoyance'. It isn't working. And the amateur psychoanalysis is just as crap. The thread has been an "eye-opener" to lots of people, yet their eyes are being opened to entirely different sights. We can all "just see" the "obvious", yet we're "just seeing" different "obviousnesses". It would all be more plausible if many of those arguing here had a prior reputation for being stupid and unbalanced. Yet, they mostly haven't. The most plausible reason for this argument's longevity is a breakdown in communication. A giant breakdown, apparently.

PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 2:36:33 PM)
Some men are promoting the idea that just because some scammers require "tribute" and some unethical women (and men pretending to be women) use terms like "generosity" in their demands means that they need to be completely stingy and cheap toward any woman until she proves to be worth the investment or sacrifice. Which men on this thread, Akasha?

PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 2:47:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyIsaac quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer Do you have examples? Take a look in the mirror, Mr. sit and spin on it. That was you who used the colorful phrase, correct? Yes, it was said in defence of my own outlook on relationships, not in attack on the way others conduct theirs. quote: What is "incorrect"? Please, enlighten me. Since you introduced the term 'political correctness', you'll need to enlighten me as to what its opposite is.

ElanSubdued -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 2:53:12 PM)
quote: PeonForHer to NoreenSwan: We can all "just see" the "obvious", yet we're "just seeing" different "obviousnesses". It would all be more plausible if many of those arguing here had a prior reputation for being stupid and unbalanced. Yet, they mostly haven't. The most plausible reason for this argument's longevity is a breakdown in communication. A giant breakdown, apparently. This hits the proverbial nail on the head for me. The OP's words were misguided and misunderstood. OP has since addressed this. Others started discussions of their own loaded with disparate views from the OP. Since then, all hell has broken loose. But I'm with Sea on the world domination (or at least forum domination) possibilities of this thread so I'm still contributing in a cursory way. Viva la revolución! Elan.

LadyPact -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 3:13:55 PM)
I don't want to take up the space to quote everyone directly. These are just a few comments in reply to snips from the last few pages. Sea, you are quite welcome for the response. Like you, I would love for the conversation on the topic to be on a deeper intellectual level, as well as get to the meat and bones of why some of the responses have come across the way they did. I absolutely believe that in some cases, past experiences are fueling certain types of comments. Elan, in My opinion, if you ever were to be in a location to catch one of Sea's presentations, going would definitely be to your (or almost anyone's) benefit. Not only is he knowledgeable, but he has depth. I think he has a wonderful grasp on understanding the drive of the male submissive. Issac, while I appreciated your links to the terms you were using, I can assure you that I didn't need them. I don't think it is so much that some submissive males are attempting to shut down Dominant women. It has been unfortunate that the thread has gone all over the map on financial tribute, rather than be focused on that subject when it relates to a long term dynamic. I think some forms of authority are more appropriate to implement in a later stage. Others may disagree with Me, but we're not all the same. Pryo, don't feel bad. I haven't read Harry Potter either. Noreen, I'm going to attempt to be as polite as possible about this. If you ever spoke to My boy in the same way you have interacted with some of the male submissives here, you wouldn't be dealing with anyone else but Me. In My opinion, when you insult these submissives, you also insult the Dominant. It's not something that I would tolerate. I don't know who you have in your service, but you would be lucky if it were someone like otters. I have had the opportunity to meet him as well as his Lady Nikki. I can promise you that he is quite devoted to her and in no way deserves your treatment of him here. I will ask you to respect him, by extension her, as well as the other good submissives in this thread.

PeonForHer -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 3:17:33 PM)
But I'm with Sea on the world domination (or at least forum domination) possibilities of this thread so I'm still contributing in a cursory way. Viva la revolución! By Jove I'm with you there. But first, I'm going to the pub for last orders. A pint of bitter, called Tribute. Dave the barman will already have lined it up. (I'm really not joking!)

NoreenSwan -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 3:35:05 PM)
Cool.

NoreenSwan -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 3:37:07 PM)
Don't point your finger lady, you and your friends are just as guilty of snarky remarks, who are you kidding. Stop acting like you're not. You've made your own fair share of condenscing, egotistical, snarky comments to various OPs and lets not pretend otherwise. Maybe if you weren't so full of yourself, you would see how hipocritical you are. Please come off your self-made pedestal or better yet, step away from that high budget cross and realize not every one here is impressed with you. I'm glad Otter is in service and happy. That's good to know!!!!

Page: << < prev 50 51 [52] 53 54 next > >>

Collarchat.com © 2025

Terms of Service

0.0625