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Starbuck09 -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (9/5/2009 6:30:55 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Venatrix
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ORIGINAL: Starbuck09
That's fair enough Lady but then presumably they in turn will not care what dominant women think of them on this thread, so there would be no point in telling them that they are bitter and hateful towards women?
Again, SB, I can only speak for myself, and as I've said before, a lot of my complaints about men are intended to enlighten them about what they are doing wrong, in the hopes that they will correct their behaviour and thus have better luck. After 50 pages of posts, I see the same damned men shooting themselves in the same damned foot. Clearly, there is none so blind as the sub who will not see.
My reasoning for even being involved in these debates is similar, but I also feel it's important to point out to the new people who may be reading or lurking that the opinions of this group of fairly eloquent and seemingly "well put together" submissives is NOT the way to attract a femdom. There's a group of really vocal subs who seem to talk like they know how to attract and have successful relationships with femdoms but in reality what they preach is a very poor approach.
At the very least, subs need to know that courting a femdom requires at the mimimum the same respect and rituals vanillas provide. Some men are promoting the idea that just because some scammers require "tribute" and some unethical women (and men pretending to be women) use terms like "generosity" in their demands means that they need to be completely stingy and cheap toward any woman until she proves to be worth the investment or sacrifice. While many femdoms don't have any strict guidelines for this kind of treament, they sense immediately which guys are painfully cheap, and it ruins their chances out of the gate.
As for women who simply state up front what their expectations are, rather than get bent out of shape if the guy feels it's not his cup of tea, it seems these men are blasting the women for being up front about their expectations regarding gifts or generosity; these same men don't get bent out of shape if a woman is clear about her sexual or sensual expectations (again, he can agree or move on), but the minute it has to do with money, even small amounts, they think it's ok to call this woman a gold digger.
Akasha
Akasha you've siad this a number of times but who are these men? MY own stance has nothing to do with what you have written but this is not the first time you have quoted my posts to make this point. I'll say again I never complain about my relationships or partners because I am happy, they work for me and they work well. You seem to be ignoring what i am arguing and inserting a different viewpoint into my posts that simply is not there and frankly it is extremely offensive.
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