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LaTigresse -> RE: BOIZ, LEMME TELL YOU HOW IT'S DONE....THAT TIRED OLD TOPIC, "TRIBUTE"..... (8/14/2009 7:47:31 AM)
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Peon, No my post was not directed at you. Though if the shoe fits.
Myself, I cannot even imagine even thinking about demanding any sort of material anything, from someone I was considering. (Aside from living expenses if they live with me) But I have used it to chase off persistent male s-types that are convinced I am interesting in their services. (example:"what difference does it make if it is a man's tongue or a woman's tongue in your ass?"). Knowing that most guys run like the wind at the mention of spending money for no sexual return.
And yes you could see it as I am ranting about ranting, ironic eh? But that is not my intent at all. If so, I would be ranting about all the whining males that cannot find their perfect dominant woman, when the reality is, most of those doing the whining haven't got a submissive bone in their body. Just one kinky bone.
My point is, MOST lifestyle dominant women do NOT ask for any sort of material "tribute". At least not those I know. However, a male submissive that appears to obsess about that aspect and rant on and on about it, makes himself appear less than attractive because of his constant ranting about it. It make him appear cheap, like he is expecting everything for nothing. EVEN if that is not the case. I never said you, or any of the other guys were cheap, just saying that the constant fussing about the subject, sometimes makes you look that way. You are so obsessed with seeing the issue through your own green coloured glasses, you entirely missed my point.
There is a difference.
As for vanilla dating. If you think dating vanilla will remove the whole tribute factor, good luck with that. The ONLY difference, and baby I know LOTS of hetro vanilla women, is that the dominant women are sometimes more honest about it. The vanilla just use stealth. You are not going to escape the issue, just the forthright demand.
As for my own personal opinion. It doesn't matter. If a woman is honest about her expectations and a man is willing to fork it out, more power to her. It has been part of humanity since the beginning.
There have been great courtesans since the beginning of time. Some were very powerful women that rose above the gender limitations of their time to have great influence on the men in their lives and the world around them. Some used their power for good and others, less so. Regardless, if an adult man is going to submit to a woman, he is responsible for making that choice. It takes two. (or more)
That all being said, it's not something I have ever done, or ever see myself doing. I've worked to provide for myself and those in my care since I was 13. I've always been obstinate like that. Always wanted to make sure I was paying my own way, not needing anyone else. Those are MY issues. I continue to work hard to avoid projecting them on others. In the past, my views on financial female dominants were less than flattering because of MY issues, not theirs.
So, my reading of threads like these, was more an exercise in learning and becoming more tolerant and understanding of the practice.
It has been during this self imposed learning process, that I realized that my opinion of the men that constantly bashed, was becoming more negative. I looked at it and thought I would share that outlook, for the men's benefit. Thinking that they, with a little self introspection, could realize that they are just shooting themself in the foot. Because, as I said, I really have no stake in this one way or another.
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