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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/25/2006 11:35:39 AM   
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Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him. To rub things in even more, the malesub is expected to "satisfy" the Mistress orally, bringing her to multiple orgasms while he's locked up.

Next, the malesub is often put "in service" for up to one to two hours giving oral. A pussy collar may be involved, a special bondage chair, or some such other device.

This is the storyline.

My question is, does this in anyway correspond to reality?


This storyline is real in O/our home. i am locked up 24/7 and have not orgasmed this year. W/w don't use a pussy collar or chair. When my wife wants oral sex she just directs me to service her. I crawl under the covers of our kingsize waterbed and do as directed while she watches whathever show is on the tube.

If the show she is watching has her attention i can be down there for over an hour. If the show doesn't have her attention then i will be there 45 minutes to an hour. By the time she is finished with me it will be like a sauna under the covers and my dick will have been straining at its cage the entire time.

As an extra tease we always place my pillow under her ass prior to to my worshipping her pussy. When W/we are finished my pillow is soaked. Talk about sleeping on the wet spot. Actually i have two pillows and don't sleep on the wet spot. But every night when i sleep her scent fills my dreams. The fact that my pillows smell of my Wife/Master is so very intoxicating.

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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/25/2006 2:15:20 PM   
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Thank you so much! Reading that this type of service is a reality, and not merely the stuff of fiction, has provided more inspiration to keep searching for a domme. . . .as if I ever stopped. . . :)

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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/26/2006 6:49:10 AM   
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Thanks to everyone here for responding. In general, men feel a little lost down there. At least I know I do. As a rule I like the guidance-follow method, because there's a certain in built horror / fear of doing something wrong or fumbling around like a clumsy oaf.

The answers here included a good range:

Those that like and don't like forcing.
Those that love it and those that can take it or leave it.
Those for and against the chastity component.

The duration issue was also linked to sensitivity and method.

The male contributions about the giving, reading, and the communication side of things were pointed.

Thanks to one and all.

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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/26/2006 8:06:58 AM   
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i am locked up 24/7 and have not orgasmed this year.


So, valentines day just came and went without celebration, heh? I don't think I would like that type of long term chastity. Release for me is a component of mental health. That said, there is something sexy and alluring about denial such as yours. I just don't see how its all that workable in RT practice.

If you ever need to get out, call Stef. She's got the methods.

Also, what is your wife's rooting interest in you as a semi eunuch?


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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/26/2006 9:35:23 AM   
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i am locked up 24/7 and have not orgasmed this year.


So, valentines day just came and went without celebration, heh? I don't think I would like that type of long term chastity. Release for me is a component of mental health. That said, there is something sexy and alluring about denial such as yours. I just don't see how its all that workable in RT practice.

If you ever need to get out, call Stef. She's got the methods.

Also, what is your wife's rooting interest in you as a semi eunuch?



It's actually RealOne that has the methods but you never much mention him unless you're supporting his arguments. Funny you are never online at the same time either.
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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/26/2006 9:47:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

So, valentines day just came and went without celebration, heh? I don't think I would like that type of long term chastity. Release for me is a component of mental health. That said, there is something sexy and alluring about denial such as yours. I just don't see how its all that workable in RT practice.

If you ever need to get out, call Stef. She's got the methods.

Also, what is your wife's rooting interest in you as a semi eunuch?



Honestly, it's not just a component of mental health. Most human systems need to be "flushed out" once in awhile, and the genital system is no different. Allowing too much buildup could eventually lead to prostate problems (not proven ... but since one of the first treatments for enlarged prostates is more frequent orgasms, it makes sense).

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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/26/2006 9:50:33 AM   
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Sorry, Stef strikes me as more authoritative.

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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/26/2006 11:40:09 AM   
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Flushing out can be accomplished with long-term chastity by way of 'milking' which provides the necessary release of fluids to maintain a healthy prostate.

Additionally, to cloudboy... there are a variety of D/s interests (thank goodness). The practice of long-term chastity may not be your cup of tea, but no doubt there are many who would not agree with your practices... there is no real right or wrong.. it's what is right or wrong for the individuals involved. Afterall, are we not here because we are not mainstream?



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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/26/2006 1:31:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him. To rub things in even more, the malesub is expected to "satisfy" the Mistress orally, bringing her to multiple orgasms while he's locked up.

Next, the malesub is often put "in service" for up to one to two hours giving oral. A pussy collar may be involved, a special bondage chair, or some such other device.

This is the storyline.

My question is, does this in anyway correspond to reality?

In my experience, which is NOT vast, the women I’ve been with prefer the men to initiate oral. They don’t enjoy forcing men to do it, instead, they prefer “the showering of affection.”

Next, the women I’ve been with do not like extended oral. At a certain point they have had enough and want me to stop.

What are your thoughts?

Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?

Question #3: If in the whole sexual continuum you were to rank receiving oral on a scale from one (1) to ten (10) where would you rank it? ( 1 being “hate it,” 5 being “its ok, I can take or leave it,” and 10 being “it’s the absolute ultimate to me.”)




Sound like a cuckhold fantasy theme. As a submissive, masochist, bottom or what ever you want to call it. One of the primary themes of surrender is the womans sexual gratifaction. Yes, her orgasm is far more important than mine. But that isn't to exclude my own, if she decides I deserve a reward, in a manner of her choosing. Now mistress Amy, not her real name or professional name, had no problem with taking oral service, by force or otherwise. Bit of warning hand cuffs can seriously hurt your wrists when a mistress shoves you on to your back while cuffed and mount your face. Some woman just can't, I know two who wouldn't, or couldn't, emotionally initiate any form of intamacy. Including BDSM activities. But once started they take the ball and run.


Of course as a man I enjoy the taste and smell of a woman a whole lot. Just wish I could figure out a sure fire line that would take me from saying hello to a beautiful woman. To doing that which I really want to do most of all. Eating her Kitty.



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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/26/2006 1:33:32 PM   
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What's extended oral to you? Yes, after 12 hours I'm a little dehydrated...
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Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?


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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/26/2006 1:41:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

So, valentines day just came and went without celebration, heh? I don't think I would like that type of long term chastity. Release for me is a component of mental health. That said, there is something sexy and alluring about denial such as yours. I just don't see how its all that workable in RT practice.

If you ever need to get out, call Stef. She's got the methods.

Also, what is your wife's rooting interest in you as a semi eunuch?



Honestly, it's not just a component of mental health. Most human systems need to be "flushed out" once in awhile, and the genital system is no different. Allowing too much buildup could eventually lead to prostate problems (not proven ... but since one of the first treatments for enlarged prostates is more frequent orgasms, it makes sense).



Well yea, makes perfect sense. The prostrate like any other muscle has to be used, exercised. Otherwise it will atrophy. Followed by health complications associated with the tissue. There are simular complications associated with long term sexual abstinents in women.

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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 2/26/2006 2:19:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist

Well yea, makes perfect sense. The prostrate like any other muscle has to be used, exercised. Otherwise it will atrophy. Followed by health complications associated with the tissue. There are simular complications associated with long term sexual abstinents in women.


LOL, it's actually not a case of atrophy ... it's a case of it being clogged and becoming enlarged (and enlarged prostates tend to be a precursor to prostate cancer).

And to Lorelei - I know about milking ... but many people who claim to be in situations like the stated (stuck in chastity, not allowed to orgasm ever) also claim to be denied that as well.

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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 3/6/2006 9:35:30 PM   
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The "oral service" thing actually makes me angry because so many male subs just take it for granted that when a woman (like myself) clearly states she wants a service-orineted sub, that she means she wants an oral sex slave.
Oral sex to me is not service. Being of service means taking on tasks for me in the name of making my life a little simpler and more enjoyable.

That said...
I don't engage in physical intimacy with all the subs I play with. Depends on the kind of chemistry we have.

Prolonged oral just is not nice. I have had enough, when I have had enough. The concept of "putting a sub through his paces" by "forcing" him into prolonged "oral service" is totally ridiculous to me, but maybe there is someone out there who likes it. Not me.

In terms of "ranking" the importance of oral sex to me...
Depends on so many things. When I am really in the mood, there's nothing like it. Sometimes it's just nice - like getting my hair brushed.
Other times he had better not even suggest getting anywhere close to my pussy. He's in the doghouse and there is nothing further from my mind.

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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 6/7/2006 2:58:50 PM   
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Well I love performing oral sex on women!  Its what I was meant to do and will do it for as long and as often as they like.  I was even trained to perform on men and like doing that too and have gotten pretty good at sucking cock!!  But first and foremost, I'm a pussy licker, and very good at it!!

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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 6/7/2006 3:27:23 PM   
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I like to pull My subs hair and place his face in just the right position....and the longer he can last the happier I am going to be....Here boy, kitty needs taken care of NOW I say......rewards or punishments for not paying attention to when I hold his head still, just for a breather...but back again quickly......Hmmm damn where is the sub I long for?
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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 6/7/2006 10:08:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him.
From my perspective, that would be for someone else or fantasy land;  I don't require chastity, and in fact am imcompatible with a man who dislikes/avoids sex in any form with a woman.   The only way I would use a chastity device is if I were with someone for whom I care a great deal (and with whom I am very compatible on all other levels), and he enjoys going to work locked up because it makes him feel good.
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In my experience, which is NOT vast, the women I’ve been with prefer the men to initiate oral. They don’t enjoy forcing men to do it, instead, they prefer “the showering of affection.”
I am among the women who would prefer my sub ask/beg to be permitted to go there.   I definitely need a person who is affectionate, sensual, and hungry for me.
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Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?
I've already answered I like for him to be proactive in terms of initiating affectionate acts, especially when he wants to please me orally...  Duration for me depends on how I'm feeling...  If I'm already hot/horny, it can be 5=10minutes, if not and I kind of want to use him like a toy for a while, it can be 20mins-1.5hours.
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Question #3: If in the whole sexual continuum you were to rank receiving oral on a scale from one (1) to ten (10) where would you rank it? ( 1 being “hate it,” 5 being “its ok, I can take or leave it,” and 10 being “it’s the absolute ultimate to me.”)
Receiving oral is a 9 on the sexual continuum to me.  As with all sexual acts, there needs to be a connection in order for it to feel good for me; so I hope the "I can worship your p***y for hours boys aren't reading this, because nothing turns me off faster and makes me feel dirtier than a man who hasn't courted me or made me want him suggesting he wants to put his face in my crotch.       M


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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 6/9/2006 5:17:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him. To rub things in even more, the malesub is expected to "satisfy" the Mistress orally, bringing her to multiple orgasms while he's locked up.



This does bring up another thought: nothing -- absolutely nothing -- thrills me when I'm in chastity as orally pleasing my love when I know I'm not going to enter her or cum. It's more than other forms of teasing and denial, because I'm tasting and smelling what I am desperate to have and I'm not getting. This has nothing to do with length of time or with the entire scenario. In fact, it doesn't even matter how long since I've cum. We could have had vanilla sex the night before. If I'm told to lick with no entry, I'm excrutiatingly excited.

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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 6/10/2006 1:38:00 PM   
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I’m kind of glad this thread got bumped, as it’s one I never saw when it was originally posted.

I think what we have here is another one of those media portrayed fantasies. Maybe true for a select few who want to live out that type of fantasy, but probably nothing more than a fantasy to most.

As many know by now, I’m not a sexually inclined person. I’m not celibate, but I’m very picky about who/what/whens of sexuality, because it is something I engage in to please my partner, not for pleasure I derive for me. Want to please me? Great, fix me a killer salad and let’s watch a good movie together while you rub my feet. If you’re wanting sexual pleasure for yourself (be that in the form of the giver or receiver either one) you’re going to have to say so.

That being said, it will be absolutely necessary for my partner to initiate 99% of all sexual encounters. I am not a mind reader and I don’t keep a little sexuality journal to know your horniness patterns. I choose adults who have great communication skills. My partner won’t get his sexual needs met by playing coy and pretending he likes chastity. If a submissive comes to me and goes on about how he enjoys chastity and only initiates sex when I demand it, my thought is "Cool, more salads and movies!" It’s a matter of honesty. If what he means is "I like being in chastity 5 hours a day and I like performing oral sex on a woman while she calls me demeaning names for 2 hours." he needs to say so.

Nothing burns me up more than "submissives" who try to embed their own sexual proclivities under the guise of my enjoyment. If you enjoy performing oral sex, just say so. Don’t try to make it out like you’re providing me with an invaluable service for my personal enjoyment. That just comes across as arrogant. Really, I was content with the salad. I moved on to the sex part, because I love you and I care about you having your needs met too. Just like you did some give and take when you sat there through 3 straight hours of a crime-drama series you hate, I’m willing to do some give and take in the bedroom. But what I will not do is falsify what we are doing under the guise that I am "forcing" you to do something that was your kink in the first place.

It’s ok for a submissive or slave to like sex. A good majority of the population of human beings enjoy sex. It’s OK to be true to yourself and admit your preferences, without having to put me in the role of the uber-nympho Dominatrix who drools over the thought.
I think I’ve digressed…

Let me get back to the questions at hand…
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My question is, does this in anyway correspond to reality?


Not my reality, nor the reality of most the Dominant women who have shared details with me of their sex life. (That being the sex life they are really having, not the one they fantasize about.) Most the male submissive I know who are in chastity, are in chastity because they enjoy it, and their Mistresses really have no preference either way whether or not they wear the belt. Or they are in chastity because the couple really doesn’t know what they want and they picked up a chastity device because "It’s a BDSM thing."
The same applies with "forcing" oral service. They are usually doing it because they know the submissive enjoys that sort of play.
Most of the Ladies I know live more in the reality of "by the time we make it to bed, we’re both so tired from the busy day of work, home, health, kids, bills, and family, that we’re lucky to get a quickie missionary style."
Most of the Ladies I know don’t incorporate much dominance in the bedroom at all. Most of them are in day-to-day M/s relationships with very little focus on kink. When they do engage in S&M play with their boys, it’s usually at dungeon parties and is not overtly sexual.
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Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?

I prefer my partner initiate it. By "initiate" I don’t mean "demand". He can initiate it via begging or asking to do so, just flat out saying it, or through those typical subtle cues that humans have the ability to build on. And normally since I’m not going to be reaching any sort of climax anyway, he can stop fairly soon after he starts.
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Question #3: If in the whole sexual continuum you were to rank receiving oral on a scale from one (1) to ten (10) where would you rank it? ( 1 being "hate it," 5 being "its ok, I can take or leave it," and 10 being "it’s the absolute ultimate to me.")


Probably about a 5. It depends on the person doing it. If they are slobbering around not knowing what they are doing, it quickly drops to a 1.


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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 6/10/2006 7:55:05 PM   
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First, I must say I love male chastity devices and the sight of a hard cock straining against a steel device makes me very excited.   I do not keep my slave in chastity but I like to control his orgasms.  It keeps him focused on my pleasure.  
Also, chastity is not cuckolding.  Cuckolding is when a married woman has sex with someone other than her husband, and does not have sex with him. 
 
I LOVE oral service- BY MY SLAVE.... and to know he is being teased and denied while I am being pleasured makes my day!  Often I chat online, watch a show or talk to other men while he services me.  This is very humiliating to him, and I love to humiliate him.  :D
There are times I will not allow him to cum, then there are times that after I am done using him, I will make him beg to cum.  Sometimes I will give him a time limit, and he is always made to clean up his mess.   
 
I initiate everything.  I KNOW he loves to lick and I know he will gladly do it whenever I request it.  For the two of us, it is a part of how we communicate with one another.  I thrive on controlling him sexually and telling him how to use his tongue and he needs to be controlled sexually. 
 
Other subs who serve me are not used in such a way.  I do not like any submissive assuming that they are going to service me orally.  The only one I want to taste me is the one I love...
 
Oral to me is better than sex.  I can live without cock but I cannot live without oral.. To me it ranks a 10.  After all, they are making some fantastic dildos and sex toys but there is nothing to replace the tongue, the look on his face as I instruct him, pull his hair,slap him,  guide his mouth... I can't give the dildo a verbal command... ;)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Question #1: In male projection fantasy fiction, the femdom is often portrayed as denying the malesub orgasms, making him wear a chastity device, and never copulating with him. To rub things in even more, the malesub is expected to "satisfy" the Mistress orally, bringing her to multiple orgasms while he's locked up.

Next, the malesub is often put "in service" for up to one to two hours giving oral. A pussy collar may be involved, a special bondage chair, or some such other device.

This is the storyline.

My question is, does this in anyway correspond to reality?

In my experience, which is NOT vast, the women I’ve been with prefer the men to initiate oral. They don’t enjoy forcing men to do it, instead, they prefer “the showering of affection.”

Next, the women I’ve been with do not like extended oral. At a certain point they have had enough and want me to stop.

What are your thoughts?

Question #2: To include all women here, what are your oral preferences in terms of initiation and duration?

Question #3: If in the whole sexual continuum you were to rank receiving oral on a scale from one (1) to ten (10) where would you rank it? ( 1 being “hate it,” 5 being “its ok, I can take or leave it,” and 10 being “it’s the absolute ultimate to me.”)


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RE: Oral Sex, the female, and the femdom - 6/12/2006 4:21:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

As many know by now, I’m not a sexually inclined person. I’m not celibate, but I’m very picky about who/what/whens of sexuality, because it is something I engage in to please my partner, not for pleasure I derive for me. Want to please me? Great, fix me a killer salad and let’s watch a good movie together while you rub my feet. If you’re wanting sexual pleasure for yourself (be that in the form of the giver or receiver either one) you’re going to have to say so.

 
KUDOS! I love a killer salad too  :)
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My partner won’t get his sexual needs met by playing coy and pretending he likes chastity. If a submissive comes to me and goes on about how he enjoys chastity and only initiates sex when I demand it, my thought is "Cool, more salads and movies!" It’s a matter of honesty. If what he means is "I like being in chastity 5 hours a day and I like performing oral sex on a woman while she calls me demeaning names for 2 hours." he needs to say so.

Nothing burns me up more than "submissives" who try to embed their own sexual proclivities under the guise of my enjoyment. If you enjoy performing oral sex, just say so. Don’t try to make it out like you’re providing me with an invaluable service for my personal enjoyment. That just comes across as arrogant. Really, I was content with the salad. I moved on to the sex part, because I love you and I care about you having your needs met too. Just like you did some give and take when you sat there through 3 straight hours of a crime-drama series you hate, I’m willing to do some give and take in the bedroom. But what I will not do is falsify what we are doing under the guise that I am "forcing" you to do something that was your kink in the first place.




I edited my quoted parts...but mainly I just wanted the guist of what you said...because there were so many things I agreed with!  I hate it when they try to say they want "forced" this and "forced" that...its not forced if you wanted it! LOL

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